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   01-27-2006, 4:43 AM
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why didnt tecmo emulate doa ultimate first?
in the hopes that maybe someone from tecmo might read this please please please emulate the doa ultimate edition i think its the best in the series why did you have to go and make doa 3 its by far the worst one of the 4 games though the 4th is right up there in the suckage dept. and while were on the subject tecmo why in the world do you keep makeing one lame boss character after another raidou was the best. clone him and bring him back already. i dream of fighting him on 360 watching him switch up moves on the fly since he knows everyones style ahhh that would be cool.
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   01-27-2006, 8:48 PM
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Re: why didnt tecmo emulate doa ultimate first?
cuz they dont want people to play DOAU online when they can play DOA4

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   01-28-2006, 12:10 AM
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Re: why didnt tecmo emulate doa ultimate first?
thats cool leave out the online part ill be happy playing it in single player mode.
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   01-30-2006, 2:27 PM
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i hope they make it playable so i could get the booster for doa3

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   02-15-2006, 6:46 AM
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Re: why didnt tecmo emulate doa ultimate first?
Sorry to hear that you cant handle a skill based game
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   02-15-2006, 10:54 AM
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Re: why didnt tecmo emulate doa ultimate first?
 Xx Raansu xX wrote:
Sorry to hear that you cant handle a skill based game

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   02-15-2006, 4:52 PM
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Re: why didnt tecmo emulate doa ultimate first?
Maybe they didn't emulate DOAU 1 because they didn't want to?

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   02-15-2006, 5:46 PM
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Re: why didnt tecmo emulate doa ultimate first?

ha ha ha raansu you think doa4 is a skill based game i dont agree its the ultimate button masher no skill needed at all thats why it sucks. once the computer gets going on a combo set all you can do is wait until its over to counter 1/2 a second timeing is all you have to counter that just gives the computer more of a chance to cheese you. doa2 had it down just right more skill needed in that game than in doa4. want to play a skill based game play virtua fighter, or tekken.

so if you think you have skill because you beat doa4 i hate to burst your bubble but you dont and it proves that your a good button masher and thats it. so before you try to make yourself feel all good with stupid comments wait until a real fighting game comes out.


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   02-15-2006, 7:49 PM
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You're rating the game based on single player? Wow what a noob.
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   02-16-2006, 4:08 AM
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Ya man Seriously. How can you say its a button mashing game. When you meat an A+ or S on this game you KNOW they earned it. Unless A glitch of course. But you dont get that good by button mashing.

 

And i dont get how you can say DOAU is the better version the games were usualy nutton but add ons. They would always keep same basic moves but they would add them as more games came out.

I just think you over thinking the quality of fighitng games a little to much.

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   02-16-2006, 3:21 PM
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Re: why didnt tecmo emulate doa ultimate first?
well, since DOA4 requires no skill and is a button masher how about you play with me and Raansu online sometime, you should be able to beat us without any problem since no skill is required

and how can you judge a fighting game based on its single player? fighting games are made for multiplayer


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   02-17-2006, 5:29 AM
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look everybody who knows a good fighting game will tell you doa4 is a button masher theres no denying it. once a round starts first one to get a hit  can keep it going with combos and theres nothing the guy on the recieving end can do about it button masher right there. all the moves are not complicated very easy to pull off button masher again. see you guys think it takes skill to play this game and iam thinking the only skill you need is to measure the counter moves as best you can with that millisecond you have a bit of that and luck with button mashing put in there for good measure and ah you feel like your sooooo good lol. like i said play a real fighting game with depth and true mechanics that lead you to victory like virtua fighter or soul calibur this game is a joke. even if i got online and all of you beat me, it doesnt prove anything except your all master button mashers iam not iam more of a skill based player no one can beat me at soul calibur 1-3 and when they make it for 360 i challenge any of you any day and when virtua fighter 5 comes out also ill take you all to school show you how a real player dishes out the real skill based pain in a fighter.

and if you dont believe me that this game sucks online or off read this months issue of egm a respected magazine thats been around since the begining they always say it like it is and are seldom wrong. they put in plain english what everyone else is afraid to admit the game is a BUTTON MASHER!

you cant argue with professionals so say what you will about my comments truth hurts its ok lol. 


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   02-17-2006, 5:35 AM
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Re: why didnt tecmo emulate doa ultimate first?

oh yeah exiled iam judgeing the game on single player and online and either way the games a BUTTON MASHER! the mechanics dont change just because you play a human opponent. and fighting games are not just for online play the best ones are just as enjoyable when you play alone. like streetfighter alpha for instance.

BUTTON MASHERS always win over skilled players you should know that.


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   02-17-2006, 6:16 AM
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Re: why didnt tecmo emulate doa ultimate first?
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look everybody who knows a good fighting game will tell you doa4 is a button masher theres no denying it. once a round starts first one to get a hit  can keep it going with combos and theres nothing the guy on the recieving end can do about it button masher right there. all the moves are not complicated very easy to pull off button masher again. see you guys think it takes skill to play this game and iam thinking the only skill you need is to measure the counter moves as best you can with that millisecond you have a bit of that and luck with button mashing put in there for good measure and ah you feel like your sooooo good lol. like i said play a real fighting game with depth and true mechanics that lead you to victory like virtua fighter or soul calibur this game is a joke. even if i got online and all of you beat me, it doesnt prove anything except your all master button mashers iam not iam more of a skill based player no one can beat me at soul calibur 1-3 and when they make it for 360 i challenge any of you any day and when virtua fighter 5 comes out also ill take you all to school show you how a real player dishes out the real skill based pain in a fighter.

and if you dont believe me that this game sucks online or off read this months issue of egm a respected magazine thats been around since the begining they always say it like it is and are seldom wrong. they put in plain english what everyone else is afraid to admit the game is a BUTTON MASHER!

you cant argue with professionals so say what you will about my comments truth hurts its ok lol. 

wow this should be fun

once a round starts first one to get a hit  can keep it going with combos and theres nothing the guy on the recieving end can do about it button masher right there.

Quote #1 of proof that you are nothing but a scrub and dont know anything about fighters

Hmm lets see here first of all theres the basic. if you know what they are gonna start with then counter it, thats if u wanna be basic and risk a high counter. if you know they are gonna go high then low crush them, or u can use a  regular crush move. Practically every string can be interupted with a proper use of crush moves and counters. Oh and dont forget about those offensive holds, damn i love those.

Stunned? Hmm theres this amazing thing called SLOW ESCAPE which allows you to escape from stuns and returns u to neutral stance.

Theres also this great thing called side stepping. And theres also character specific side step moves. Damn those are useful.

So lets see theres a counter measure for everything so how is it a button masher? Oh I forgot ur a scrub.

even if i got online and all of you beat me, it doesnt prove anything except your all master button mashers iam not iam more of a skill based player

Really now? If its nothing but a button masher wouldnt u have just as much of an advantage as we do? So if we just simply dominate you how is it a button masher when u can do the same thing huh?

no one can beat me at soul calibur 1-3

little jimmy down the street and your boyfriend doesnt count.

and if you dont believe me that this game sucks online or off read this months issue of egm a respected magazine

HAHAHAHAHA you're trying to kill me or what? I just about died laughing from reading that. EGM is getting worse every year and they are the most biased mag out there. Lets not forget that these same ppl that gave a low score to doa4 straight up copy/paste everything in their guide from doacentral.

you cant argue with professionals so say what you will about my comments truth hurts its ok lol.

Ok now I know you're trying to kill me. That made me laugh harder then the egm comment. If you were a so called "professional" you would be able to pick up the basics of the games system. And if you're a pro then when was the last EVO tourny you won? Or MLG or WCG or VTYME?

 


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   02-17-2006, 2:13 PM
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Re: why didnt tecmo emulate doa ultimate first?
you should never judge a game based on 1 review, here are all of the reviews http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages4/928260.asp
and as you can see, EGM is in the minority(not too mention that EGM is getting really bad, it hasn't been a good magazine in like 4 years)

and if its a button masher you would be just as likly to win than either raansu or myself, and no one would be better than anyone else. so come one, play with us and prove it


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   02-17-2006, 4:30 PM
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iam not gonna waste my time playing this sorry excuse for a fighting game, and taint my finely crafted fighting skills i might turn into a button masher.

when streetfighter comes out on the market place ill play you in that. oh yeah and when fight night comes out. ill leave this barbie game to the rest of you, who think one part button mashing and one part luck makes a good game. not to mention all the lag you get online yeah right when iam kicking tail slow down hits and you can see all my moves great for mashers lol.

 


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   02-17-2006, 4:41 PM
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no one can beat me at soul calibur 1-3

Isn't 'Soul Caliber' a buttom mashing series as well? >_>. I always play against button mashers >_<;

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   02-17-2006, 4:47 PM
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lmao no its a tactical, diabolical, game of might and brawn, blood and steel, that requires split second timeing and skill thats more mind games than mashing buttons. with its deep vault of moves and counter moves and a hint of ring outs. ahhhh the anti masher game.
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   02-17-2006, 4:56 PM
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 chowgunn479 wrote:

iam not gonna waste my time playing this sorry excuse for a fighting game, and taint my finely crafted fighting skills i might turn into a button masher.

when streetfighter comes out on the market place ill play you in that. oh yeah and when fight night comes out. ill leave this barbie game to the rest of you, who think one part button mashing and one part luck makes a good game. not to mention all the lag you get online yeah right when iam kicking tail slow down hits and you can see all my moves great for mashers lol.

 



so basicly your scared to fight me and raansu because you know we would destroy you(we dont button mash at all BTW and neither does anyone good at the game), and you say DOAU is less of a button masher(even though DOA4 takes skill unlike DOAU).

you also trust reviews by people who suck at DOA4 so much that in order to make a good stratagy guide for it they had to steal it from doacentral.com


oh, and BTW any fighting game can be a button masher if you dont take the time to learn it

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   02-17-2006, 7:07 PM
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of course you would destroy me mashers always win lol....
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   02-17-2006, 8:41 PM
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 chowgunn479 wrote:
of course you would destroy me mashers always win lol....


actually they dont, i beat them all the time.....usually getting 1 or 2 greats in the process

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   02-17-2006, 8:49 PM
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Ang. Re: why didnt tecmo emulate doa ultimate first?

Its more button mashing in DOA 4 than DOAU... DOAU is more skill based

 

But that doesnt mean there is no skills in DOA4, ofc its a good game, but still, its more button mashing than DOAU

 

(Maybe i say so beacause im SS in DOAU and B in DOA4, but whatever :D)

 

 

Exiled Splat: U say that DOA4 takes more skill than DOAU.... I don't agree with you.

Of course, u wont get wery far by mashing, but its more effective to do so in DOA4 than DOAU

 

For instance, the best characters in DOAU were difficult to become good with, in DOA4, everyone can pwn with Ryu or jann-lee. just hit all the buttons at once, all the time, and see how great it works :P 


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   02-17-2006, 8:53 PM
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Its more button mashing in DOA 4 than DOAU... DOAU is more skill based

 

But that doesnt mean there is no skills in DOA4, ofc its a good game, but still, its more button mashing than DOAU

 

(Maybe i say so beacause im SS in DOAU and B in DOA4, but whatever :D)



the fact that you were an SS in DOAU and are a B in DOA4 only proves the point that DOA4 takes more skill


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   02-17-2006, 8:57 PM
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 NecroNils wrote:

Its more button mashing in DOA 4 than DOAU... DOAU is more skill based

 

But that doesnt mean there is no skills in DOA4, ofc its a good game, but still, its more button mashing than DOAU

 

(Maybe i say so beacause im SS in DOAU and B in DOA4, but whatever :D)



the fact that you were an SS in DOAU and are a B in DOA4 only proves the point that DOA4 takes more skill

No, my favorite character was Tina, i was wery good with she. In DOA4 all her great combos are gone, she suck now, and that means that i suck.
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   02-17-2006, 9:48 PM
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are you serious? tina is amazing in doa4. and the other guy didnt even put up a decent argument and just said the same thing lol. doau spoiled ppl. it took no skill to be average at that game and everyone had an SS so they felt all high and mighty. and now that doa4 is out and requires skill they all cry and call it a button masher cuz they dont understand the game.

if it makes you feel any better, ill gladly pop in the scrubby doa2u and ill still tear you apart. then we can play doa4 and i can show you how the game is meant to be played.

who think one part button mashing and one part luck makes a good game

ill say it again, if its a button masher then wouldnt u (the skilled player) still be able to win or atleast have an even playing field button mashing? other wise you have no excuse for avoiding a challange except that u know you suck. And lets not forget, if this game is such a button masher and luck then why do i go on 30+ winning streaks?


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   02-17-2006, 10:09 PM
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 Xx Raansu xX wrote:

1. are you serious? tina is amazing in doa4. and the other guy didnt even put up a decent argument and just said the same thing lol.  2. doau spoiled ppl. it took no skill to be average at that game and everyone had an SS so they felt all high and mighty. and now that doa4 is out and requires skill they all cry and call it a button masher cuz they dont understand the game.

3. if it makes you feel any better, ill gladly pop in the scrubby doa2u and ill still tear you apart. then we can play doa4 and i can show you how the game is meant to be played.

who think one part button mashing and one part luck makes a good game

4. ill say it again, if its a button masher then wouldnt u (the skilled player) still be able to win or atleast have an even playing field button mashing? other wise you have no excuse for avoiding a challange except that u know you suck. And lets not forget, if this game is such a button masher and luck then why do i go on 30+ winning streaks?

1. If you think tina is amazing in doa4, you should have seen me in doau.

2. The rank SS was easy to get, but that never made the game easy to master. I have really owned SS guys, and i have really been owned by them. in doau, the rank dont matter as much as in doa4

3. I accept your challenge, but first, i need a harddrive for mye 360 o_o  The old box is messed up

4. If this also goes for me: I never ment doa4 is a pure button masher, all Im trying to say is that its more effective to mash in doa4 than it is in doau


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   02-17-2006, 11:07 PM
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ok thats it this thread is for doa4 bashers not mashers all others please do not post here no more.
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   02-24-2006, 8:23 AM
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Re: why didnt tecmo emulate doa ultimate first?
Third party publishers (i.e. Tecmo) dont emulate games, Microsoft does.
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   03-03-2006, 10:39 AM
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That's because Tecmo doesn't emulate the games, MS has a group of programers that do it in house.
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   03-05-2006, 6:56 PM
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The DOA games aren't really buttonmashers. The only thing that buttonmashers have going for them is that their moves are abit unpredictable, which makes it harder to counter, and makes it alittle harder to do more complicated combos. But they have a big weakness too. They often don't pay attention, and if you interrupt their "flow", you often set them up to lose.

EX: I often play as Bayman, and when I come up against people who buttonmash, and here what I do. Just back away, wait until they attack, and tap Y. Bam. Their stunned. Now I/you have a big list of options of what we can do now. I prefer the turnblade into air juggle, taking away half of their health. Or, if I'm feeling sadistic, hello dangerous driver/half boston crab.

However, a fighting game must also be able to provide a challenge in single player.Cause face it, it's a fact that some people don't have/can't get Xbox Live to play against other people. And often, it's not because they can't afford it, but that there isn't a fast enough service out where they live. Most fast internet services are centered around cities and towns, and the farther you are from one of these, often it's much harder/impossible to get a respectable internet service.

DOA3 and DOAU do provide a good challenge, and respectable gameplay. In DOA4 however, the AI is too inconsistant to be any good, ranging from a bag of bricks to, well, Alpha Kasumi. In fact the only complaint have about DOA3 and DOAU. in DOA3, the camera angle is horrorendous for the last boss fight. DOAU is the tediousness of the unlocking process.

And as far as skill, you do need skill to advance. In any of the DOA games, even using the cheapest people possible(Ayane, Jann Lee etc.) requires some skill, because even if you use them. if you have no skill, someone who does could beat your *** in.

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