I love crosswords, and this was almost an instant buy for me, but after playing the demo I've been put off entirely by the appalling controls.

I find the letter entry to be far too slow and clunky... why they didn't add support for the chatpad is beyond me.

Chatpad?

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I could not agree more.  Not including an option to use the chatpad is a huge mistake.

 INOX NYC wrote:

Chatpad?

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x/xbox360messengerkit/

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 mqmatt wrote:

I love crosswords, and this was almost an instant buy for me, but after playing the demo I've been put off entirely by the appalling controls.

I find the letter entry to be far too slow and clunky... why they didn't add support for the chatpad is beyond me.

 

Seconded.  I don't care what excuses, at either the Konami or Microsoft end, they have regarding why we can't use the letter-input device attached to our controllers to input letters; this is completely unforgivable.  Patching it this very instant would not be fast enough.  It should never have left the gate like this.

 

And it doesn't help one bit that the "ring" they did provide for letter entry slowly animates to get from one half of the alphabet to the other.  And the shortcut to flip it - pressing both bumpers - takes holding them in to trigger, longer than it usually takes to simply move the cursor to the flip space on the ring!  - ZM

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 TooLegitVolz wrote:

 INOX NYC wrote:

Chatpad?

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x/xbox360messengerkit/

Oh, I have one of those, never heard it called a chatpad. Learn something everyday.

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I found it to be very intuitive and quick once you got used to the control scheme, but to each their own.

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the contorols are terrible.  I will buy this game if it recieves chatpad support in an update.  Until then, forget it.  I was like "wtf" when i downloaded the demo and my chatpad wasnt working.  I mean it works when you need to input text in certain parts of retail games, so I figured theres no way in *** an arcade game centered around inputting letters would not support it, but sure enough, I was wrong.

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Actually the chatpad does work but now I'm having a problem with it.  When I first got the game today the Chatpad worked...did 3 puzzles with it and it worked fine.  Came back a few hours later and now I can't get it to work in game.  I've no interst in playing this if the pad doesn't work.

Woah hang on you were actually using it? Has anybody else gotten theirs to work with this game? I tried and it didnt work. I even tried exiting the game, inserting chat pad, then running the game again. Still didnt work though.

Yes, it started off working. I just went and tried it again, doesn't work now and I can't find a setting anywhere that would seem to enable it.

Update this game to include Chat Pad, please.

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Yup - bit of a 'whiff' by MS on this game. 

 

IF it was just a bit chaeper, and IF I could use my chatpad (that mostly just collects dust anyway), this would be a buy.  Not that the letter control in the game is horrible, but why would you pass up a chance to tie a game into a peripheral that would make your company more money?  How many brutal EyeToy games are there?  Well, I guess not too many... but there's a reason for that!

At the stage this game is currently in, I'm really torn as to weather to buy it or not.

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Pathetic mistake. I would have bought this if I could have used the chatpad. It's just insulting to have to use that ridiculous wheel input when I have a keyboard on my controller...

 Blueline17 wrote:

Actually the chatpad does work but now I'm having a problem with it.  When I first got the game today the Chatpad worked...did 3 puzzles with it and it worked fine.  Came back a few hours later and now I can't get it to work in game.  I've no interst in playing this if the pad doesn't work.

i got the same problem.
but! its working when i start game with wired controller, then I log-out, then I log-in on my 2nd wireless controller and put messenger kit on.
then... I can do any crossword in less than 20 minutes with this little sh..t :)

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So you guys are saying it works but, you need to boot the game up with a wired controller?  now thats super lame.  I dont own a wireless controller.  Looks like they need to patch the game.  Ill buy it if they do, if not, NO PURCHASE.  is that enough incentive for you developers to put out a patch?  sales?

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Mine worked with just the one wireless logged in with the chatpad already attached.  Still can't get it to work again.

Just so you guys know.  you can use any usb keyboard that is compatible with the 360 and it works fine.  Only thing is I can't figure out a way to swtich from across to down without having to hit the blue x button on the controller.  I guess because X on the keyboard is a letter you use, while when using a keyboard to navigate the guide or menus, X works as the blue x button on the controller.  i dont have a messenger kit, but its a shame if it doesnt support it correctly.

What they really should have done is support the chatpad and bundle this with the messenger kit.  It'd be a great way to sell more of both, like the way MS includes some arcade games on the memory cards...

 

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 Kiska wrote:

Just so you guys know.  you can use any usb keyboard that is compatible with the 360 and it works fine.  Only thing is I can't figure out a way to swtich from across to down without having to hit the blue x button on the controller.  I guess because X on the keyboard is a letter you use, while when using a keyboard to navigate the guide or menus, X works as the blue x button on the controller.  i dont have a messenger kit, but its a shame if it doesnt support it correctly.

Good to know, thanks! I'm still probably not going to buy it unless they support the chatpad though.

Here's what I do to use the chat pad:
- Have two controllers turned on, with the Player 1 controller signed into your profile, and the chat pad plugged into the Player 2 controller.
- Start Coffeetime Crosswords.
- Use the Player 1 controller to enter a puzzle.
- Now, the Player 2 chat pad will work.  HOWEVER, you will still need to use the Player 1 controller to move around the board.  (Except you can use the chat pad's left and right arrows.)

It's awful, but it's better than the default control scheme.  That's like saying Mussolini was slightly better than Hitler, I know.

 INOX NYC wrote:

 TooLegitVolz wrote:

 INOX NYC wrote:

Chatpad?

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x/xbox360messengerkit/

Oh, I have one of those, never heard it called a chatpad. Learn something everyday.

  "The Messenger Kit includes a Chatpad and Xbox 360 Headset."

  Just out of curiosity - since it's called the "chatpad", what did you know it as?  :)

 Kiska wrote:

Only thing is I can't figure out a way to swtich from across to down without having to hit the blue x button on the controller.

  My wife just used the arrow keys on a USB keyboard to move around for letter entry - didn't bother with setting a direction, but I gotta thin there's a way to do it...

    - Rok

Guess I should've read the forum first...instead, I took my wife to BestBuy and bought a chatpad thinking that *surely* any developer with half a brain would have implemented chatpad support on a text-entry game.  Too bad for BestBuy, because I'm taking back the chatpad getting my $30 back.  (I know..I spent $30 so my wife could play a $10 game...lame).

Awful input system. Unplayable. I'll stick to my DS NY Times crosswords - was worth the extra $5.

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I can't agree more with this thread.

This game is way overpriced for what you get, and free alternatives exist.  No chatpad support is the dumbest thing ever.  That wheel is slow, annoying, noisy and impractical.

Whoever made these decisions should be shot in the head.   I'm serious.  Ignorance like that should be removed from the gene pool.

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 SnapDragon wrote:

Here's what I do to use the chat pad:
- Have two controllers turned on, with the Player 1 controller signed into your profile, and the chat pad plugged into the Player 2 controller.
- Start Coffeetime Crosswords.
- Use the Player 1 controller to enter a puzzle.
- Now, the Player 2 chat pad will work.  HOWEVER, you will still need to use the Player 1 controller to move around the board.  (Except you can use the chat pad's left and right arrows.)

This is how it works for me. Doesn't matter if the controller is wired or wireless. Letter input on the second controller, D-Pad on the 1st controller... Works well if your ambidextrous or not.

 

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 HotRodW wrote:

Guess I should've read the forum first...instead, I took my wife to BestBuy and bought a chatpad thinking that *surely* any developer with half a brain would have implemented chatpad support on a text-entry game.  Too bad for BestBuy, because I'm taking back the chatpad getting my $30 back.  (I know..I spent $30 so my wife could play a $10 game...lame).

This is what I was talking about in one of my posts above... what you did isn't lame, I bet a number of people would have bought a $30 periferal for a $10 game - that's why it's crazy that during develoment, no one insisted on chatpad functionality...

 

I've kinda left this game behind...

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 mqmatt wrote:

I love crosswords, and this was almost an instant buy for me, but after playing the demo I've been put off entirely by the appalling controls.

I find the letter entry to be far too slow and clunky... why they didn't add support for the chatpad is beyond me.

 

Ditto!! I'm also glad I played the demo first before buying. The chatpad is a must for this game!

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 Sir Charles 75 wrote:

 SnapDragon wrote:

Here's what I do to use the chat pad:
- Have two controllers turned on, with the Player 1 controller signed into your profile, and the chat pad plugged into the Player 2 controller.
- Start Coffeetime Crosswords.
- Use the Player 1 controller to enter a puzzle.
- Now, the Player 2 chat pad will work.  HOWEVER, you will still need to use the Player 1 controller to move around the board.  (Except you can use the chat pad's left and right arrows.)

This is how it works for me. Doesn't matter if the controller is wired or wireless. Letter input on the second controller, D-Pad on the 1st controller... Works well if your ambidextrous or not.

 

This works, my wife has it down to tee and she doesn't play that many games.

Stupid that they have not included it on the first controller though. This must be a programing error.

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For me, if I start the game using the 2nd controller(with chatpad) I don't need to use the 1st controller D-pad.