Seriously, 1920 x 1200 is one of the the common resoltution these days. Please, Microsoft needs to support this. Is it actually that hard? There pictures don't have to be even full-screen. Just put it so i can put it on and it would put 1920 x 1080 resolution, but just adds black bars.  My monitor doesn't have 1:1 pixel mapping so i can't do it myself.

So please, add 1920 x 1200 resolution - i can just have black bars - can't be that hard. So many people have this resolution, i'm sure i'm not the only one.

So why not just drop down to the lower resoultion that does have black bars?

Is it really that big of a deal to use a lower resoultion that works and looks almost the same?

And to give you an idea of how hard it was - this wish was floating around for 2 or 3 years before it came true

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You mean put it on 1680×1050?

I think it's a pretty big difference. The pixel clearly look blurry and stretched. And putting 1920 x 1080 just stretches it.

Seriously - we need 1920 x 1200.

Too bad not all games are 1080p. -____-

 ML KioncWarlord wrote:

Too bad not all games are 1080p. -____-

Agreed - Most of the XB360 games are rendered in 720p, which are upscaled to 1080p

I've been using a 1:1 Ratio computer monitor for several years, long before MS finally released 16:10 support

IMO - Folks should be happy & grateful that they even got 16:10 support - Because MS certainly didn't have to.

This is looking like "give folks a cookie, they're gonna want milk to go with it". IMO - just be happy with the cookie

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 Superman TAS wrote:

 ML KioncWarlord wrote:

Too bad not all games are 1080p. -____-

Agreed - Most of the XB360 games are rendered in 720p, which are upscaled to 1080p

I've been using a 1:1 Ratio computer monitor for several years, long before MS finally released 16:10 support

IMO - Folks should be happy & grateful that they even got 16:10 support - Because MS certainly didn't have to.

This is looking like "give folks a cookie, they're gonna want milk to go with it". IMO - just be happy with the cookie

And superman saves the day again with facts . heh There are very few games that do have 1080p...not games that i would play . 720p is fine for me .

I wouldn't really be that hard to just take the 1920 x 1080 resolution and add black bars and make it into 1920 x 1200 - one of the most popular resolutions on the monitors nowadays.

You guys have no idea how bad other resolutions look on my monitor. It stretches out everything else and 1680 x 1050 actually has black bars - althought it is 16:10. It's not like i cal really do a picture of it, but seriously - it looks ugly. And my monitor doesn't support 1:1 with the Xbox 360 for some reason. Because then i could do this myself.

It's not too much to ask, really.

 Juustuveeretaja wrote:

I wouldn't really be that hard to just take the 1920 x 1080 resolution and add black bars and make it into 1920 x 1200 - one of the most popular resolutions on the monitors nowadays.

You guys have no idea how bad other resolutions look on my monitor. It stretches out everything else and 1680 x 1050 actually has black bars - althought it is 16:10. It's not like i cal really do a picture of it, but seriously - it looks ugly. And my monitor doesn't support 1:1 with the Xbox 360 for some reason. Because then i could do this myself.

It's not too much to ask, really.

How about just playing on a HDTV and playing the games in the resolution they were developed for.

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 Juustuveeretaja wrote:

I wouldn't really be that hard to just take the 1920 x 1080 resolution and add black bars and make it into 1920 x 1200 - one of the most popular resolutions on the monitors nowadays.

You guys have no idea how bad other resolutions look on my monitor. It stretches out everything else and 1680 x 1050 actually has black bars - althought it is 16:10. It's not like i cal really do a picture of it, but seriously - it looks ugly. And my monitor doesn't support 1:1 with the Xbox 360 for some reason. Because then i could do this myself.

It's not too much to ask, really.

How about just playing on a HDTV and playing the games in the resolution they were developed for.

Because that would make sense. People love to complain about everything. If it's not an atm, bread-maker, flower shop, sports car, web browser, home entertainment center, it needs too be.

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Because buying an HDTV for something like this is totally reasonable and not a huge waste of money.

Well considering everything is going digital, Everything is going to be HD soon, and HDMI is becoming standard on all consoles and AV equipment + the fact HDTV's are now at very reasonable price range. Then yes I would say it is totally reasonable to get one and considering you are getting a piece of equipment that will soon be necessary it is most definitely not a waste of money.

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He already has a display capable of 1080p though, I mean it's a rare problem but he didn't need to be talked down to for having it. OP, I don't know what to tell you man, I guess you could just go back to a CRT monitor for awhile if you have a decent one hanging around still and that VGA adapter.

About the HDTV. They cost so much in my little country. I actually ordered this 24" monitor from another country. Shipping was pain in he quantum singularity, wouldn't imagine in case of HDTV. Also - i wouldn't be able to play on the TV as much as i would want, but i have my own computer which my 360 is also hooked up by VGA.

So

* I can't really buy a HDTV because of the price.
* I can't put in anywhere.
* I have a monitor that can do 1080p, but is 16:10. And for some reason it doesn't support 1:1 for 360. And it looks really bad on the lower resolution for me.

This can't be too much to be asked in the next update.

 LostKauz wrote:

 JONBOY1977 wrote:

 Juustuveeretaja wrote:

I wouldn't really be that hard to just take the 1920 x 1080 resolution and add black bars and make it into 1920 x 1200 - one of the most popular resolutions on the monitors nowadays.

You guys have no idea how bad other resolutions look on my monitor. It stretches out everything else and 1680 x 1050 actually has black bars - althought it is 16:10. It's not like i cal really do a picture of it, but seriously - it looks ugly. And my monitor doesn't support 1:1 with the Xbox 360 for some reason. Because then i could do this myself.

It's not too much to ask, really.

How about just playing on a HDTV and playing the games in the resolution they were developed for.

Because that would make sense. People love to complain about everything. If it's not an atm, bread-maker, flower shop, sports car, web browser, home entertainment center, it needs too be.

Wow. The guy asks for a logical and understandable update and people jump down his throat. Truth is, 1900x1200 is an increasingly common resolution for PC monitors, so it's not too much to ask Microsoft to acknowledge this.

What, is anything other than sucking Microsoft's *** unacceptable on the WISHLIST & FEEDBACK forum?

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 Juustuveeretaja wrote:

* I have a monitor that can do 1080p, but is 16:10. And for some reason it doesn't support 1:1 for 360. And it looks really bad on the lower resolution for me.

That's a contradiction - it either does fully support 1080p, or it does not. And it sounds to me that it does not

If the monitor did fully support 1080p, then the monitor itself would be providing the black bars

Those who choose to use computer monitors instead of HDTVs have to acknowledge that they are not going to get the same display output as an HDTV - if it's not the black bars to maintain the 16:9, it's going to be something else (like brightness, contrast, etc)

I have a Gateway 24" 16:10 HD Display that does have 1:1 ratio. I use it for my Computer, XB360, HDTV, and BlueRay Player - it is acceptable for now because I really do not have the space or the money for a bigger HDTV, but I do plan on getting a very nice HDTV in the future

I said this before - people need to fully research the products they buy to make sure that they are getting what they want for their money - or they need to research more if they are unhappy with the product they had bought

You get a cheap LCD monitor, you expect cheap features; and don't expect it to be as great as an HDTV

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 Mr Wiggy wrote:

Wow. The guy asks for a logical and understandable update and people jump down his throat. Truth is, 1900x1200 is an increasingly common resolution for PC monitors, so it's not too much to ask Microsoft to acknowledge this.

What, is anything other than sucking Microsoft's *** unacceptable on the WISHLIST & FEEDBACK forum?

So was 1680x1050 at one time, and it took MS 3 years to fulfill that wish, and they did not have to

Logic is based on the current understanding of reality - and that's the reality of it

In the end, a computer monitor is not a cheap substitute for an HDTV, no matter how people try to justify it

If you are satisfied with the HDTV picture quality on the display, then you should also be satisfied with XB360 picture quality. If you are not able to get HDTV on the display, then folks should be grateful that MS provided official support for 16:10 displays in the first place

That said - I never said the 1900x1200 wish was invalid - I simply said that it took MS 3 years to fulfill the original 16:10 support wish in the first place.

Be realistic - by the time this wish is fulfilled, the next higher resolution will be the new standard, not 1900x1200. And IMHO - MS isn't going to continue to keep up with the newer standards since the most common game resolution now is 720p

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 Mr Wiggy wrote:

Wow. The guy asks for a logical and understandable update and people jump down his throat. Truth is, 1900x1200 is an increasingly common resolution for PC monitors, so it's not too much to ask Microsoft to acknowledge this.

If i whack some larger wheels on my BMW and the car doesn't drive properly, who is to blame? Do BMW have to update my car because i put unspecified wheels on the car, or is it my problem because i wanted wheels that BMW dont specify?

Microsoft have been extremely good so far, at updating the 360 to handle resolutions that weren't normal at the time of release (especially considering the competition dont even do monitor resolutions to my knowledge)

Nobody has any problems with people asking for this, but expecting Microsoft to acknowledge it is a different thing. Its a bonus, rather than a requirement.

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Its a bonus, rather than a requirement.

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 Superman TAS wrote:

 SnailUK wrote:

Its a bonus, rather than a requirement.

Exactly

BS. The Xbox 360 is marketed as a HD consle. PC monitors are HD screens. Microsoft should strive to accommodate as many users as possible. What's up with all the,"We should be thankful" crap, anyways? We shouldn't just be thankful, we should *** expect these sort of features.

As for the genius who told the OP to just buy an HDTV, have you considered the fact that HDTVs are expensive? And that they are too cumbersome for taking to college? HDTVs aren't the only way to play games in HD, y'know.

Also, getting this kind of resolution working is NOT rocket science. If you wanted it to work without the black bars, then yeah, it'd be tough, but with the bars, it's just a simple bit of programming.

Once again, this is the WISHLIST AND FEEDBACK forum. When did it become filled with Microsoft *** suckers who talk down anyone who makes a blatantly understandable suggestion?

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Mr Wiggy - Thank you. Very true.

Superman TAS - My monitor supports 1980p, but for some reason that doesn't work with 360 over VGA. I'm not sure if that works over HDMI, but i already have something else in HDMI.

It wouldn't be that hard and i bet i'm not the only one with this problem. This wouldn't be that hard. I think Microsoft could really this.

 Mr Wiggy wrote:

BS. The Xbox 360 is marketed as a HD consle. PC monitors are HD screens. Microsoft should strive to accommodate as many users as possible. What's up with all the,"We should be thankful" crap, anyways? We shouldn't just be thankful, we should *** expect these sort of features.

As for the genius who told the OP to just buy an HDTV, have you considered the fact that HDTVs are expensive? And that they are too cumbersome for taking to college? HDTVs aren't the only way to play games in HD, y'know.

Also, getting this kind of resolution working is NOT rocket science. If you wanted it to work without the black bars, then yeah, it'd be tough, but with the bars, it's just a simple bit of programming.

Once again, this is the WISHLIST AND FEEDBACK forum. When did it become filled with Microsoft *** suckers who talk down anyone who makes a blatantly understandable suggestion?

Can you connect your HDTV cable or Satalite box to your computer monitor to watch HDTV and be satisfied with the picture output?

If yes, then you should also be satisfied with the XB360 picture output

If no, then being able to connect the XB360 to the computer monitor instead of the VGA input of an HDTV is considered to be an extra - an extra MS did not have to give us, but they did anyway because so many people wished for it.

Just because they granted a wish, does not automatically mean that they are required to follow-up with that extra wish - that's the point we're making.

It took MS 3 years to fulfill this extra wish - back when 1690x1050 was the standard and 1920x1200 was just a gleam. Now 1920x1200 is the standard. People dealt with no 16:10 support over VGA for 3 + years - that's why we're saying you shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth.

People need to recognize the difference between a computer display and a HD display - if you can not connect your cable or satalite box directly to your computer monitor - then it is not an actual HD display

Ever since computer resolutions exceeded 640x480 way back in 1995 - monitors have had "HD", long before there were HDTVs for cable & satalite use - that is the primary difference, and the XB360 VGA cable was originally meant for HDTVs not computer monitors. Hence the 3 year old 16:10 wish that came true only very recently

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 Juustuveeretaja wrote:

Mr Wiggy - Thank you. Very true.

Superman TAS - My monitor supports 1980p, but for some reason that doesn't work with 360 over VGA. I'm not sure if that works over HDMI, but i already have something else in HDMI.

It wouldn't be that hard and i bet i'm not the only one with this problem. This wouldn't be that hard. I think Microsoft could really this.

Then you need to contact your monitor manufacture for support

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 Superman TAS wrote:

 Mr Wiggy wrote:

BS. The Xbox 360 is marketed as a HD consle. PC monitors are HD screens. Microsoft should strive to accommodate as many users as possible. What's up with all the,"We should be thankful" crap, anyways? We shouldn't just be thankful, we should *** expect these sort of features.

As for the genius who told the OP to just buy an HDTV, have you considered the fact that HDTVs are expensive? And that they are too cumbersome for taking to college? HDTVs aren't the only way to play games in HD, y'know.

Also, getting this kind of resolution working is NOT rocket science. If you wanted it to work without the black bars, then yeah, it'd be tough, but with the bars, it's just a simple bit of programming.

Once again, this is the WISHLIST AND FEEDBACK forum. When did it become filled with Microsoft *** suckers who talk down anyone who makes a blatantly understandable suggestion?

Can you connect your HDTV cable or Satalite box to your computer monitor to watch HDTV and be satisfied with the picture output?

If yes, then you should also be satisfied with the XB360 picture output

If no, then being able to connect the XB360 to the computer monitor instead of the VGA input of an HDTV is considered to be an extra - an extra MS did not have to give us, but they did anyway because so many people wished for it.

Just because they granted a wish, does not automatically mean that they are required to follow-up with that extra wish - that's the point we're making.

It took MS 3 years to fulfill this extra wish - back when 1690x1050 was the standard and 1920x1200 was just a gleam. Now 1920x1200 is the standard. People dealt with no 16:10 support over VGA for 3 + years - that's why we're saying you shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth.

People need to recognize the difference between a computer display and a HD display - if you can not connect your cable or satalite box directly to your computer monitor - then it is not an actual HD display

Ever since computer resolutions exceeded 640x480 way back in 1995 - monitors have had "HD", long before there were HDTVs for cable & satalite use - that is the primary difference, and the XB360 VGA cable was originally meant for HDTVs not computer monitors. Hence the 3 year old 16:10 wish that came true only very recently

Do you ACTUALLY think MS spent 3 freakin' years developing the 16: 10 resolutions?! It's very simple programming-wise, compared to some of the other stuff they've done-just take the 16: 9 version of the res, add black bars-hey presto!

What's up with the "extra" nonsense, too? The VGA cable is made for people hooking up their xbox through a VGA input. What, are you saying that VGA is inferior to component? Cos it ain't. In fact, it's basically the same thing, so why shouldn't MS support it fully.

Why is it that people are so accepting of the Status Quo?! It's not like the OP came in asked for PS3 games to play on the 360. He wants MS to accomodate new technology. Were you nay-sayers the same people who talked down people who asked for 1080p on the 360 before it came out? It's freakin' technology! It advances, and a company like MS should be well able to keep up.

Take that "You should be grateful" nonsense and shove it where the sun don't shine-the OP is being a reasonable consumer making a reasonable suggestion, and, as I have previously stated, some of you have failed miserably to grasp the concept of the Wishlist and Feedback forum.

"People need to recognize the difference between a computer display and a HD display - if you can not connect your cable or satalite box directly to your computer monitor - then it is not an actual HD display"
*Facepalm*- Marketing people must have field days with people like you.

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 Mr Wiggy wrote:

Do you ACTUALLY think MS spent 3 freakin' years developing the 16: 10 resolutions?! It's very simple programming-wise, compared to some of the other stuff they've done-just take the 16: 9 version of the res, add black bars-hey presto!

What's up with the "extra" nonsense, too? The VGA cable is made for people hooking up their xbox through a VGA input. What, are you saying that VGA is inferior to component? Cos it ain't. In fact, it's basically the same thing, so why shouldn't MS support it fully.

Why is it that people are so accepting of the Status Quo?! It's not like the OP came in asked for PS3 games to play on the 360. He wants MS to accomodate new technology. Were you nay-sayers the same people who talked down people who asked for 1080p on the 360 before it came out? It's freakin' technology! It advances, and a company like MS should be well able to keep up.

Take that "You should be grateful" nonsense and shove it where the sun don't shine-the OP is being a reasonable consumer making a reasonable suggestion, and, as I have previously stated, some of you have failed miserably to grasp the concept of the Wishlist and Feedback forum.

"People need to recognize the difference between a computer display and a HD display - if you can not connect your cable or satalite box directly to your computer monitor - then it is not an actual HD display"
*Facepalm*- Marketing people must have field days with people like you.

If even half of what you said was actually true, then there would have been 16:10 support 3 years ago, instead of less than 1 year ago. You have no explaination why this popular wish was only recently granted - if it was as simple as you keep insisting, it would have happened a  long time ago.

Again - I'm not saying this is a bad wish, I'm saying that you have to accept that connecting the XB360 to a computer monitor has always been and still is considered to be an "extra" feature - one MS certainly did not have to give us. MS could have just simply said "Our VGA Cable was designed and meant to be used on a HDTV, and not on a computer monitor" - which is exatly where the "be grateful" comes into play

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I believe that people would prefer to watch and play Games on a large TV rather than a smaller PC Monitor. 4 Player Co-op would be very difficult on a 22" screen. Besides, 1080p on a TV is still very nice. So until the resolutions you ask for become more popular I don't see this as a viable option for Microsoft to pursue.

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Superman TAS - That's what i'm wondering about. Why didn't they make this sooner. Althought it was a little bit harder than the thing i'm asking right now as i'm only asking about just adding black bars.

I don't get it either why MS took 3 years about it.

o0 Signal 20 0o - "I believe that people would prefer to watch and play Games on a large TV rather than a smaller PC Monitor" - Not everyone can afford a large TV, because of the price and space. And that doesn't still mean people don't use PC monitor.

" Player Co-op would be very difficult on a 22" screen. Besides, 1080p on a TV is still very nice.." - The resolution is still same. If you sit behind the desk you can still play. And you need to understand that adding this very easy thing wouldn't take anything away from you other people.

"So until the resolutions you ask for become more popular I don't see this as a viable option for Microsoft to pursue. " What do you mean? 1920  x 1200 is one of the most popular resoltions these days for monitors.

 Juustuveeretaja wrote:

Superman TAS - That's what i'm wondering about. Why didn't they make this sooner. Althought it was a little bit harder than the thing i'm asking right now as i'm only asking about just adding black bars.

I don't get it either why MS took 3 years about it.

o0 Signal 20 0o - "I believe that people would prefer to watch and play Games on a large TV rather than a smaller PC Monitor" - Not everyone can afford a large TV, because of the price and space. And that doesn't still mean people don't use PC monitor.

" Player Co-op would be very difficult on a 22" screen. Besides, 1080p on a TV is still very nice.." - The resolution is still same. If you sit behind the desk you can still play. And you need to understand that adding this very easy thing wouldn't take anything away from you other people.

"So until the resolutions you ask for become more popular I don't see this as a viable option for Microsoft to pursue. " What do you mean? 1920  x 1200 is one of the most popular resoltions these days for monitors.

It comes down to two possibilities - Either MS wanted to make sure that it was indeed a popular wish that was actually going to be used, or it actually did take them 3 years to develop the fix. Remember - 16x10 support came with NXE - which was a complete overhaul of the XB360, and it did indeed take MS more than a year to develop NXE

Is it possible that 1920x1200 might be a future release? It may, or it may not.

While most folks do assume that a VGA cable is meant for a monitor, not all of them are. If it was - then you probably would not have needed that female-to-female VGA adapter to connect the two cables (XB360 & Monitor) together.

The XB360 VGA cable was originally meant to be only be used on HDTVs - hence the 3 year old 16:10 support wish. If it was meant to be used on a computer monitor, then there would have been 16:10 support way back then, since it was clear way back then that 16:10 monitors were getting more & more popular.

This is why it's considered to be an extra - and why people should be grateful that their wish finally came true

If most of the games were 1080p, and IF HD-DVD won the format wars, MS would probably be more inclined to make 1920  x 1200 to take full advantage of 1080p. But since things wound up the way they are now, and most games and downloaded videos are 720p - how can anybody truly justify 1920  x 1200 to get 1080p on their <24" 16:10 computer monitor?

Let's face it - you're not going to get the true 1080p on a computer monitor - there's almost always going to be some flaw that doesn't make it as good an actual HDTV.

You're not going to get "superior display" on a shoe budget by getting a <$200 monitor - you get that by actually getting a "superior display" that is meant to deliver that high quality that is expected

A computer monitor used as HD Display is exactly how it is best described - A cheap substitute until you have the means to actually get an HDTV

As nice as the picture looks on my 24" Gateway 16:10 1:1 ratio 1080p (over HDMI) monitor - the contrast is almost always off, and the monitor just doesn't have the same color / brightness / contrast / sharpness controls as an actual HDTV. I still look forward to the day when I can replace it with a nice big screen HDTV - when I can afford it

The imperfections in my computer monitor are "acceptable" until then - and that will make me better appreciate the HDTV.

What I'm trying to say - is just because there is no 1920x1200, does not mean it's the end of the world. 1680x1050 is "acceptable" until getting that big screen 1080p HDTV. Even if 1920x1200 does come true - folks are going to find something else to complain about that is available on the HDTV, and not on their computer monitor - and when that happens, MS won't be able to help them

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 Superman TAS wrote:

 Juustuveeretaja wrote:

Superman TAS - That's what i'm wondering about. Why didn't they make this sooner. Althought it was a little bit harder than the thing i'm asking right now as i'm only asking about just adding black bars.

I don't get it either why MS took 3 years about it.

o0 Signal 20 0o - "I believe that people would prefer to watch and play Games on a large TV rather than a smaller PC Monitor" - Not everyone can afford a large TV, because of the price and space. And that doesn't still mean people don't use PC monitor.

" Player Co-op would be very difficult on a 22" screen. Besides, 1080p on a TV is still very nice.." - The resolution is still same. If you sit behind the desk you can still play. And you need to understand that adding this very easy thing wouldn't take anything away from you other people.

"So until the resolutions you ask for become more popular I don't see this as a viable option for Microsoft to pursue. " What do you mean? 1920  x 1200 is one of the most popular resoltions these days for monitors.

It comes down to two possibilities - Either MS wanted to make sure that it was indeed a popular wish that was actually going to be used, or it actually did take them 3 years to develop the fix. Remember - 16x10 support came with NXE - which was a complete overhaul of the XB360, and it did indeed take MS more than a year to develop NXE

Is it possible that 1920x1200 might be a future release? It may, or it may not.

While most folks do assume that a VGA cable is meant for a monitor, not all of them are. If it was - then you probably would not have needed that female-to-female VGA adapter to connect the two cables (XB360 & Monitor) together.

The XB360 VGA cable was originally meant to be only be used on HDTVs - hence the 3 year old 16:10 support wish. If it was meant to be used on a computer monitor, then there would have been 16:10 support way back then, since it was clear way back then that 16:10 monitors were getting more & more popular.

This is why it's considered to be an extra - and why people should be grateful that their wish finally came true

If most of the games were 1080p, and IF HD-DVD won the format wars, MS would probably be more inclined to make 1920  x 1200 to take full advantage of 1080p. But since things wound up the way they are now, and most games and downloaded videos are 720p - how can anybody truly justify 1920  x 1200 to get 1080p on their computer monitor?

Let's face it - you're not going to get the true 1080p on a computer monitor - there's almost always going to be some flaw that doesn't make it as good an actual HDTV.

You're not going to get "superior display" on a shoe budget by getting a
A computer monitor used as HD Display is exactly how it is best described - A cheap substitute until you have the means to actually get an HDTV

As nice as the picture looks on my 24" Gateway 16:10 1:1 ratio 1080p (over HDMI) monitor - the contrast is almost always off, and the monitor just doesn't have the same color / brightness / contrast / sharpness controls as an actual HDTV. I still look forward to the day when I can replace it with a nice big screen HDTV - when I can afford it

The imperfections in my computer monitor are "acceptable" until then - and that will make me better appreciate the HDTV.

What I'm trying to say - is just because there is no 1920x1200, does not mean it's the end of the world. 1680x1050 is "acceptable" until getting that big screen 1080p HDTV. Even if 1920x1200 does come true - folks are going to find something else to complain about that is available on the HDTV, and not on their computer monitor - and when that happens, MS won't be able to help them

720p isnt bad at all . Look at the games coming out next year . Lost planet 2 bioshock 2 and mass effect 2 look amazing . Bioshock`s 2 blood effect`s are great . Highly improved .

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It comes down to two possibilities - Either MS wanted to make sure that it was indeed a popular wish that was actually going to be used, or it actually did take them 3 years to develop the fix. Remember - 16x10 support came with NXE - which was a complete overhaul of the XB360, and it did indeed take MS more than a year to develop NXE

As i understand it, all the scaling is done in hardware via a chip.

Microsoft are highly likely to have brought that chip, with all the scaling stuff already incorperated. Therefore its quite possible the reason they dont update the chip every time a new resolution is released, because they have to pay a third party to do so, id imagine thats quite expensive.

If they did buy the chip in, its highly likely the chip has been made on a tiny budget, and therefore will have as little rom/ram as possible, it may be the chip needed a major refactor, to fit extra scaling in the the same footprint as the original chip software.

Who knows, maybe the next chip update will include 3D functionality

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As i understand it, all the scaling is done in hardware via a chip.

Microsoft are highly likely to have brought that chip, with all the scaling stuff already incorperated. Therefore its quite possible the reason they dont update the chip every time a new resolution is released, because they have to pay a third party to do so, id imagine thats quite expensive.

If they did buy the chip in, its highly likely the chip has been made on a tiny budget, and therefore will have as little rom/ram as possible, it may be the chip needed a major refactor, to fit extra scaling in the the same footprint as the original chip software.

Who knows, maybe the next chip update will include 3D functionality

That does not explain how the original Launch XB360s are able to recieve the same NXE update features as the newer XB360s - unless the chip itself is 4 years old

I would say - that the chip in question is the GPU, which is capable of scaling, "black bars", etc - and it really is a matter of getting the new software to work correctly with the existinig hardware

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