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   07-11-2006, 6:40 PM
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What am I not getting with PGR3?
I bought this game when I bought my xbox360 recently, and thought I was sure to get a good game as the reviews have been great. But frankly, I haven't been more bored with any game.

The graphics are nothing special. It's ok, but it's not excactly next-gen. It's marginally better than NFSMW on PS2.
It is not possible to damage the cars.
It is no point in buying cars as the cars you race agaings, and the time/kudos to beat are matced to the car you are racing.
The tracks are very flat and not very interessting.

Am I playing the same game as everybody else? How can people think this is fun?
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   07-11-2006, 6:46 PM
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 Jogg Banan wrote:


Am I playing the same game as everybody else? How can people think this is fun?

I think this is one of the best Xbox 360 launch games and still rank pretty high for me.  There are different racing games out (Burnout, Full Auto, NFS, PGR3, Moto GP, etc) all with different tastes and feel and not everyone will like it.  Some people like that underground, rap music, police chase game...some like the total destruction, do what it takes to win and some like the precise handling, realistic physics and sim quality of PGR3. 

This just may not be your cup of tea, but it is a very good, well made game.  It's a game I still encourage everyone to have in thier Xbox 360 library of games.


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   07-11-2006, 7:35 PM
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 Cohibaluvr wrote:

Some people like that underground, rap music, police chase game...some like the total destruction, do what it takes to win and some like the precise handling, realistic physics and sim quality of PGR3. 

This just may not be your cup of tea, but it is a very good, well made game.  It's a game I still encourage everyone to have in thier Xbox 360 library of games.

Well, I've played Grand Turismo, Need for Speed and Burnout on PS2, and I like sim quality (GT4), I like destruction (Burnout) and I like police chasing (NFSMW),  but PGR3 has none of the above. I would say its an arcade racer, but they failed to make a fun concept other than racing on poorly designed tracks.


I really cant see why you should encourage everybody to have this title in their library. If this is one of the best games for 360, then I must say that I regret not waiting for PS3.

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   07-11-2006, 7:41 PM
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 Jogg Banan wrote:

 If this is one of the best games for 360, then I must say that I regret not waiting for PS3.

Read my post again...I said one of the best launch games.

PGR3 it the equivalent of GT.

If you do not like it, that’s fine, I’m not forcing anyone to like it.  Just move on.  There are some other 360 games the people enjoy that I do not.  I just move on and find one that suits my taste.  If you do not like it, you just don’t like it.

 


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   07-11-2006, 8:46 PM
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 Cohibaluvr wrote:

Read my post again...I said one of the best launch games.

PGR3 it the equivalent of GT.

If you do not like it, that’s fine, I’m not forcing anyone to like it.  Just move on.  There are some other 360 games the people enjoy that I do not.  I just move on and find one that suits my taste.  If you do not like it, you just don’t like it.



PGR3 is no where near an equivalent of GT. I you say that, I don't think you have played both games.
So if it's a launch games, it doesn't matter if its crap? I am aware that games get better after a while on consoles, but since this is number 3 in a series I thought that the game should probably have a fun concept.

Well, I guess I'm just dissapointed, as I realise for the time beeing my PS2 is way more fun to play than my brand new shiny (and extremly noisy) xbox360. I'm hoping that Forza motorsport 2 and NFS Carbon will be great games but they don't launch untill october in Norway. So there is nothing to move on to.

The reason for making my first post, was that I thought that I may have misunderstood something about this game as it have had som great reviews, but it doesn't seem likely. I guess it gets good reviews because its a launch game, which is another way of saying that its a bad game.


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   07-11-2006, 10:14 PM
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 Jogg Banan wrote:
PGR3 is no where near an equivalent of GT. I you say that, I don't think you have played both games.

You are not understanding the meaning of “Equivalent” as it is used on context of my statement.  Equivalent is the rank the title has for that particular console.  The number one realistic sim racing game on the PS2 is GT.  The number one realistic sim FPS game on the PS2 is SOCOM.  Right now the number one sim racing game on the 360 is PGR3.  The number one realistic sim FPS is GRAW.

 

PGR3 and GT both hold the exact same title on their respective console and same goes for GRAW and SOCOM.

 

If someone wanted the most realistic sim racing game on the 360, right now PGR3 is the game.  Same question for the PS2 and it would be GT.

 

When I said equivalent, it was the ranking both games have for their respective console.  Equivalent does not mean better than as used in the context of my statement.

 

BTW…yes, I have played GT

 


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   07-12-2006, 3:49 PM
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Ah, I thought maybe you ment "just as good as" or "just as much fun" or "just as important for the console" or something like that. I don't think that I would say that PGR3 is a sim racing game though. It feels to me like an arcade racer. Mostly because the gameplay is extremly shallow.

But anyway I tend to rank games in the amount of fun it is to play, and PGR3 is not in the same category as GT, as GT is an actual fun game to play. Which once again make me question why you advice people to have this title in their game-library. Should you buy bad games just because they are lunch titles? I think not. Yes maybe PGR is not my cup of tea, but I have played a lot of car games on PC an PS2, and I feel pretty sure when I say that this just a bad game...


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   07-12-2006, 3:57 PM
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Like Cohiba said, it seems this just isn't your cup of tea.  I have tried at least the demos for all of the 360 race games and PGR3  is my favorite out of all of them.  There are a lot of people out there who absolutely love this game and think it is a lot of fun.  I guess you should just wait for something new to come out and try demo or renting before you buy.
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   07-12-2006, 6:33 PM
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mabey this isn't your type of game. this is one of my favorite racing games
That's right monkey, play my head.
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   07-13-2006, 7:42 AM
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 StreetKing13 wrote:
mabey this isn't your type of game. this is one of my favorite racing games

Possibly, but as said before, I've played alot of racing/rally games since the late 80's. And I usually enjoy a good game.

All you who actually like this game, what is it that you think is the fun part?
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   07-13-2006, 4:31 PM
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this game has had one concept in all 3 games. THE DRIFTING AND KUDOS. I don't see how you can avoid that. Not many other games allow you to drift and give you a reward. GT you can drift, but it suck *** cause you go 3 MPH. Here you can drfit at 150
GoW is extremely overhyped and overrated. Dont fall into the trap and buy fear.
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   07-13-2006, 5:52 PM
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It's hard to use a class A car and get it to drift through corners without hitting walls, other cars or going off the track.  But when you do get that car to slingshot through corners, it is quite satisfying!  And aside from acheivements there are medals, trophies and badges to work for that make you feel like your getting better!
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   07-14-2006, 6:34 PM
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The fun part of PGR3 is that it is the best racing game out currently for the 360.  I am just waiting for Forza 2 which should give any GranTurismo a pretty good run for its money.  But PGR3 is not bad for the time being.  It's fun enough to kill 30-45 minutes on any given day but, not enough to keep me glued to the Xbox all day.  Forza 2 on the other hand looks like it will make me plenty fat eating junk food and playing Xbox all day.
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   07-14-2006, 9:39 PM
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The graphics look too good in my opinion. I'm having a blast with the game, kinda weird that you're not.
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   07-14-2006, 9:59 PM
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Yes the drifting is actually kinda fun. Thats true.

But I guess what I don't like is this: The 3 most recent racing-games I've played are Grand Turismo 4, Burnout Revenge and Need For Speed Most Wanted. All of these have something that makes you wanna play. Grand Turismo is very open, you can buy alot of cars, tune them, its fun to drive etc. Burnout has its crasy speed and crashing. Need for speed MW has a story and its fun to drive, tweak, roam etc.

But PGR3 is more like: Here is another track, can you do marginally better than the previous track? Its doesn't have that extra thing, the fun/interessting consept, that something that makes you wanna play instead of going to bed. (It's also difficult to play xbox360 in the night, because of all the noise it makes wiht fans and dvds spinning, it keeps my wife, who sleeps in another room, awake)

I've played maybe 20 races when I started to think: "Is this all?", "How many tracks are there?", "Are every race the same". Then I realised I had enough money to buy my dreamcar an Aston Martin. Quite satisfying, now aleast I'm gonna kick ***. Hey, why have all the other cars changed to? .......so there is no reward in switching cars. Oh well, now I'm bored.

Is there anything else in this game than drafting? (I've put it out for sale, but it's slow to sell).


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   07-16-2006, 9:09 AM
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Agree - PGR3 is a missing something - the tracks are dull compared to GT and why is it so dark. Test Drive Unlimited is a much better driving experience judging from the demo.
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   07-16-2006, 6:24 PM
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Okay good point but PGR is not loose street racing like nfsmw But... if you want the best Racing game there is one coming out on september its called test drive unlimited that game will beat all the racing games!
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   07-17-2006, 8:02 PM
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 Jogg Banan wrote:

(It's also difficult to play xbox360 in the night, because of all the noise it makes wiht fans and dvds spinning, it keeps my wife, who sleeps in another room, awake)






WDF, does your house have paper walls?  Perhaps your wife has super-human hearing?  You're trying to tell us your wife hears the fan and disk drive spinning and not the sounds your TV is making?  Dumb people annoy me....
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   07-17-2006, 8:07 PM
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 Kinji Fokasaku wrote:
...  Dumb people annoy me....

Then think again before you post anything, so you don't have to annoy us as well....
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   07-17-2006, 8:29 PM
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 Jogg Banan wrote:
Yes the drifting is actually kinda fun. Thats true.

But I guess what I don't like is this: The 3 most recent racing-games I've played are Grand Turismo 4, Burnout Revenge and Need For Speed Most Wanted. All of these have something that makes you wanna play. Grand Turismo is very open, you can buy alot of cars, tune them, its fun to drive etc. Burnout has its crasy speed and crashing. Need for speed MW has a story and its fun to drive, tweak, roam etc.


Haven't played Forza Motorsport, have you?  GT sucks monkey balls by comparison.

But here we get to the crux:

(It's also difficult to play xbox360 in the night, because of all the noise it makes wiht fans and dvds spinning, it keeps my wife, who sleeps in another room, awake)

I've played maybe 20 races when I started to think: "Is this all?", "How many tracks are there?", "Are every race the same". Then I realised I had enough money to buy my dreamcar an Aston Martin. Quite satisfying, now aleast I'm gonna kick ***. Hey, why have all the other cars changed to? .......so there is no reward in switching cars. Oh well, now I'm bored.

Is there anything else in this game than drafting? (I've put it out for sale, but it's slow to sell).


I'm not knocked out by PGR3 either.  Or PGR2, or PGR.  It's not my thing.  If I want arcade racing, I'll take Burnout or even Ridge Racer.  If I want a SIM, I'll go with Forza.  Can't wait for Forza 2.

Sounds like you have a real beef with the 360 .  . perhaps you should sell it and wait on the PS3, which is obviously where your fanboy heart lies.


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   07-17-2006, 8:32 PM
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 briclarke wrote:
Agree - PGR3 is a missing something - the tracks are dull compared to GT and why is it so dark. Test Drive Unlimited is a much better driving experience judging from the demo.


I don't understand . . why are you comparing this game to Gran Turismo?  Aren't we talking about one inferior SIM driver (GT), and trying to compare it to a mid-pack Arcade styled racer?

C'mon, you get "bonus" points for "sliding" through a corner, when virtually all of the time the faster line involves not losing grip.  How serious of a racer could PGR3 be?

The fair comparison is between Forza and GT, and there is no contest, and the matter will be further settled with the release of Forza 2.

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   07-17-2006, 8:46 PM
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I have not played Forza Motorsport, but I've been looking at the videos and articles about Forza 2, and I think it looks very good. I'm looking forward to it and hoping it will be even better than GT.

I'm not a fanboy. I just expect quality. I've previously been playing alot on PC and more recently on PS2 slim. And I was very excited buying the "next-gen" console xbox 360 and I racing game with great reviews. Playing Table Tennis (a great game!), PGR3 and Oblivion, I must say that I'm far from impressed. The games dosen't have much better graphics than an average gamer-pc and are not yet more entertaining than the big PS2 titles. And I think the noise-level is ridicoulus. But I will not sell my console as I see some promosing titles in the future like Forza 2, Pro Evolution Soccer 6, Alan wake, NFS Carbon etc. I will just be abit more annoyed with it than I hoped.

I won't turn this into a thread about noise or PS3. I stared this thread to see if I could get som new insight about PGR3, to see if there were any point in playing it some more, or if I should just sell it. And I think I have gotten my answer. I will sell it for sure.
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   08-01-2006, 11:06 PM
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hehehe yea, spend your 600 dollars on your shiny new PS3. I've seen screenshots, and the graphics aren't much better.  Not for  almost double the price.  Oh yea, and if you think the PS3 won't be noisy from fans, think again.  You have to keep a processor that runs hot cool, and fans make noise.  Wake up and use your head.  If you find the fans annoying, maybe you should turn up the volume some.  5.1 surround is GREAT turned up!
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   08-02-2006, 7:46 AM
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 HowlingCoyote wrote:
hehehe yea, spend your 600 dollars on your shiny new PS3.
Who's buying a PS3?
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   08-03-2006, 9:35 AM
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its the best race game till now.in the beginning there were about 170 league's whit 1000 people in one league.play online in speedway skirmish and see the fun of it.
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   08-07-2006, 5:44 PM
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im getting a ps3 for sure two next gen systems = more fun Big Smile [:D]
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   11-01-2006, 4:34 PM
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Just to clear this up, PGR3 has to be one of the best actual racing games, it cannot be compaired to NFS or test drive... Those type of games are aimed more towards people age 16 and under, PGR meets the needs of all ages and genders, plus for those of us not skimping on cost of less than £1 per week, Play it live and theres more fun that any of the other racing games....

And this is for anyone who actually liked test drive!! Its the worsed game i've ever been on, its got all the right noises but game play is crap... This game is another one for kids, who don't actually no how it is like to drive, were PGR is more real life!!

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   11-01-2006, 10:56 PM
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WOW!!!! Comparing PGR3 with GT4, Forza, and TDU. WoW! PGR3 and PGR2 are both "D" ultimate racing games. You can't tweak your car, or mod it, so that u can have an advantage over another racer. So please stop comparing.

IMO with PGR3 u will miss the major damages done on your car -which was funny to see in PGR2. Cars are a bit more skiddish, and can get spun-out easily when hit from the ascend. The lack of a good kudo ranking system that i can see.
I may have missed it, but i can't tell who is a high lvl racer like in PGR2. Kudos /style racing online does not matter which is why PGR2 is better. There u can tell who is a noob, kudo ***, a potential good high lvl racer. That is what's missing. PGR3 is fun though, if you haven't played PGR2 or try not to compare the two - just don't do it...its all 'bout fun, and good clean racing.

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   11-17-2006, 5:28 PM
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You like game like NFS... you literally cannot say anything about PGR being a bad game because its one of the best racers out there.
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   11-17-2006, 7:08 PM
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 GNARKILL04 wrote:
You like game like NFS... you literally cannot say anything about PGR being a bad game because its one of the best racers out there.


Of course I can. I like all sorts of car games,and PGR3 is possibly the worst I've played.
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