PacoDG wrote:So a few days ago on Major Nelson there was the usual list of what is on the marketplace today. Call of Duty 3 map pack, cool. All Pro Football 2K8 ReelMaker to create highlight reels, neat. I own neither game, so on I went surfing away on the net. On Digg I found an interesting post, "More downloadable content that should've been in the game to begin with!" .. the link went right back to Major's page with the 2K8 listed, with the Digg user ranting on in the description portion how this should have been free. I am not too up to date on sports games lately, so seeing this did pique my interest, so off hunting for info about his rant I went. My findings were a little shocking. 1) The $5 download is only 108kb in size, that is awful small for a file that is marked as a "powerful replay editor" with the ability to construct your own highlight reel, add to this that the game was literally released just 5 days ago, those developers must have been working day and night on this lovely program that is only 108kb with so many features *sarcasm* .. let this part sink in first, 108kb, 5 days later, they just screwed you if you either bought the game and especially if you just bought the file (file = unlock code) 2) This isn't the first time 2KSports has done this. Like I said, I haven't touched a sports game in a bit, so this is really, all new to me. Please let me point you in the direction of Kotaku for a second, an article from December 21st 2006, has College Hoops 2K7 listed with a magical 108kb ReelMaker download, five bucks, feel free to be disgusted at the downloads for other games offered that all were obviously on the disc to begin with, thus you are just paying for the key to unlock this. There are some sold that can be unlocked if you just play the game itself (Need for Speed, The Godfather), I say, more power to them, at least they allow you to earn the stuff, if not, enjoy paying for it. However, for the content that is on the disc already and they give you no option to use it without paying a fee?! W T F?! Seriously, this has all managed to pass my unknowing eye because this was all on games that did not effect me (I also didn't write on an Xbox web site before), so now that I am keeping up with all games, this is big time shocking, and the bigger shock is, why are you still paying these companies to do this? Do online petitions work? Of course not! Look no further Guitar Hero II and their rip off music packs. I believe at the least the people that complained when the price was heard at first did make somewhat of a difference, as they were going to offer the packs monthly, and it definitely took a bit before that second set was offered, imo, time to let the online whiners cool down and forget about it. Stop buying 2KSport games. Support Rock Band when it arrives. If you work for 2KSports, end yourself. Bah, what ever happened to a Game Genie/Gameshark for all systems, they could help end this crap now. Please.
eck52 wrote:your whining for no damn reason, no one forces you to buy the highlight reel, its optional so you have no reason to complain about this. if you don't want it don't get it, its an option. and before you say something like "its a marketing scheme" or some other BS all the companies are doing this nowadays, its what xbox live is now. don't want it dont buy it, that simple
PacoDG wrote: eck52 wrote:your whining for no damn reason, no one forces you to buy the highlight reel, its optional so you have no reason to complain about this. if you don't want it don't get it, its an option. and before you say something like "its a marketing scheme" or some other BS all the companies are doing this nowadays, its what xbox live is now. don't want it dont buy it, that simpleNo damn reason my ***. I am not complaining about the fact that they offer something that should be free (that would be another rant), it is they are offering you something that IS ALREADY ON THE DISC! How the *** are they going to sell you a game, now you own, and not give you everything that is on that disc? That is BS and you know it.
eck52 wrote:once again you don't have to buy it, whether its on the disc or not isn't important. more companies will do it
eck52 wrote:I never once said I "supported it" because I don't. I don't believe in charging for extra content when we're already paying more money for next gen games. but xbox live has become a great way for them to make more money so they'll continue to use it
PIMP2048 wrote:well the reel maker has been out for almost a year now..so yea..why don't you get some things straight first before u post...and why are you crying over something that is $5 and that you DONT need to buy in order for the game to work?
djL1VE wrote:all games are like that anymore there already in the game and the 500pts just unlocks the code.. Just dont buy it.. I remeber back in the day when DLC was free on the old xbox.. Every company tries to *** us over everyday. Gasfoodinsuranceand now Micro$oft on video games.. Just dont but it... save your pts for a HD movie that takes 14 hours to download..
lmao @ Paco thinking hes unearthed some huge conspiracy. lol
Welcome to America homie. Where capitalism rules all. Is it microsoft or 2k you hate? Since your pretending there the only ones doing this?
Chitown1211 wrote: Welcome to America homie. Where capitalism rules all. Is it microsoft or 2k you hate? Since your pretending there the only ones doing this?
you are an idiot. there are much bigger scams going on than this that you should complain about, such as medicare. so shut the *** up about your highlight reel.
PACKERSfan4LIFE wrote:you are an idiot. there are much bigger scams going on than this that you should complain about, such as medicare. so shut the *** up about your highlight reel.
VH N9ne wrote:I agree w/ you Paco... its on the game already why not just make it unlockable or just have it unlocked..
sPeKuLysT wrote:Because they need money...just like everybody else...I think the people who are posting here just want you to accept the fact that we all get screwed...all the time...yes it hurts, but there is nothing you can do about it. So next time you put time and energy into a post. Make sure it is something important and worth reading about. PS - Im really addressing the original poster but I had to answer VHN9ne's question. Also, I don't get the connection between your post and the topic. Can you explain?
eck52 wrote: PacoDG wrote: eck52 wrote:your whining for no damn reason, no one forces you to buy the highlight reel, its optional so you have no reason to complain about this. if you don't want it don't get it, its an option. and before you say something like "its a marketing scheme" or some other BS all the companies are doing this nowadays, its what xbox live is now. don't want it dont buy it, that simpleNo damn reason my ***. I am not complaining about the fact that they offer something that should be free (that would be another rant), it is they are offering you something that IS ALREADY ON THE DISC! How the *** are they going to sell you a game, now you own, and not give you everything that is on that disc? That is BS and you know it.once again you don't have to buy it, whether its on the disc or not isn't important. more companies will do it
PacoDG wrote: sPeKuLysT wrote:Because they need money...just like everybody else...I think the people who are posting here just want you to accept the fact that we all get screwed...all the time...yes it hurts, but there is nothing you can do about it. So next time you put time and energy into a post. Make sure it is something important and worth reading about. PS - Im really addressing the original poster but I had to answer VHN9ne's question. Also, I don't get the connection between your post and the topic. Can you explain?I think what VHN9ne understands, which a lot of people (including yourself) do not understand, is that this is more than getting screwed by downloading stuff off the marketplace, as I like the marketplace, and they really don't *** anyone with things they sale there (if you want to pay cash for a theme, go for it, at least you know what you are buying). It is because they are offering something to you that YOU ALREADY PAID FOR when you bought the disc, they are not telling you waht you are buying, which is just an unlock code for content on the disc already. It is that simple. Yet I guess not simple enough for everyone to understand.
sPeKuLysT wrote:Its just pointless to discuss this anymore...nobody knows exactly whats on every game disc they buy...most people dont even try to find out...you just put the disc in and you play the game...you get some enjoyment out of it...somebody leaked this insignificant tidbit of information about the reelmaker and like 13 people are up in arms about it...life goes on...go ahead and spend $100 on a capture card and some video editing software and you can do the same thing as reelmaker can do for $5...happy highlight making!
Speculawyer wrote:There are satellite television and radio programs passing through my house right now as we speak! Why should I have to pay for them?
BornToLose2 wrote: Speculawyer wrote:There are satellite television and radio programs passing through my house right now as we speak! Why should I have to pay for them?Clearly, that's the exact same thing as this. You sure did prove the OP wrong with your well thought out and well spoken rebuttal.