I sometimes look at the big map and have to wonder about my team's understanding of the game.  It's a game about securing and holding new spawn points.  Yet I consistantly see players bunkered down in places well behind the scene of the action.  I've even seen players camping outside a just neutralized area without moving an inch from his/her position.  They even stay there while I try to take it back and get in a firefight with 2-3 enemies.

Comon folks this game isn't about your K/D ratio it's about who loses all their CPs first.  Fight at the flag!  Watch your minimap.  Read the messages.  If you see a CP go neutral either bunker down at another one to hold the line together or haul *** to the neutral point to recapture it. 

If you're fighting behind a frontline and a forward point is captured get up and help defend it ASAP.  You don't need to guard any capture points behind an owned forward point.  The enemy just can't capture them.

Also watch the big map when you're spawning.  If you see a CP on the frontline with no defenders it's a good place to spawn and get some defence on.

And dont run past me while I'm trying to capture a point, for crying out loud.

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 WandreCanada wrote:

I sometimes look at the big map and have to wonder about my team's understanding of the game.  It's a game about securing and holding new spawn points.  Yet I consistantly see players bunkered down in places well behind the scene of the action.  I've even seen players camping outside a just neutralized area without moving an inch from his/her position.  They even stay there while I try to take it back and get in a firefight with 2-3 enemies.

Comon folks this game isn't about your K/D ratio it's about who loses all their CPs first.  Fight at the flag!  Watch your minimap.  Read the messages.  If you see a CP go neutral either bunker down at another one to hold the line together or haul *** to the neutral point to recapture it. 

If you're fighting behind a frontline and a forward point is captured get up and help defend it ASAP.  You don't need to guard any capture points behind an owned forward point.  The enemy just can't capture them.

Also watch the big map when you're spawning.  If you see a CP on the frontline with no defenders it's a good place to spawn and get some defence on.

seems Im not the only one that has experiences this..sometimes it seems like im all alone on my team..I cap a point..make sure noone is attacking it..play defense while I wait for some reinforcements to show up.. once they do I move to the next one..and it never fails that soon as I get close to cap the next one...the first one is taken..makes me wonder what everyone else is doing.

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I dealt with that all night last night and it was ticking me off badly. I could understand it if a squad was trying to work a flank but nope....grrrrr.

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Been there before games where I have moved every line, others have held down a obj. the whole game so they couldn't push us back to our spawn. watched as five guys wait for a chopper that just left the pad with sniper rifes in hand. ppl and their toys I almost hate solar farm for the reason alone nobody will leave their toys to cap anything.

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At TheFlag
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I personally have a problem with those that are going behind enemy lines I see my team losing the frontlines there is only one capturable point for our team thats going neutural and I see 5-6 ppl running past this point on the other side. There is no other place they should be going certainly not that many ppl. Its pretty frustrating cause you know the frontlines is about to be moved back. It couldve been easily prevented but no one bothers.

Or on map like Streets a few of us were moving the line well but if we died we kept seeing our team spawn all the way in the main base its like wth we have 3 spawns closer to the frontline you could spawn at and you choose the main base? That just gives the other team an easy opp. to cap a point uncontested as those ppl make their way all the way back.

Or in Oil Fields where Ive seen like 6 of my team on the towers goofing off I love taking those ppl out on the other team so easy, but I hate it when chopper pilots dont bother clearing those towers ><.

At least if they are stayin back maybe they are recon'ing,defending a point...yes thats right defending a capture point as long as it still is up for grabs on the other side is important IMO I do this on streets and I know if I hadnt it would've been taken a number of times. Like in Invasion the first line of points is always back n forth cause everyone runs to the next point to be taken and vice versa for both sides its like a merry-go-round best way for WC to move the line is to leave a few behind to guard some points and hold it down while others capture more.

wow pharoah... you get reinforcements?  must be nice... I usually cap the flag.. wait.. defend... and then get my *** handed back to me 6 vs 1... and then watch the flag get taken back....

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The Gunslinger - S.K.

It really never occurred to me…the psychology of the gamer playing this brilliantly designed concept for controlling points etc…   You see, I originally thought that this game would reach the top spot in Xbox-live activity soon because of the brilliant concept of this game.  But, there was one x-factor I didn’t consider.  That is the human nature of gamer wanting to go lone wolf no matter what is at stake.  This unfortunately is going to cripple the potential of a great and robust on-line community for this game.  Other than the groups of friends that play together and work as a team and coordinate strategies, this multiplayer game is not going to flourish. 

The positive aspect here is that these people will be moving on at some point in the future, leaving this game to team players who want to understand and play under the game's original concepts.

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Just lurking until Crimson Skies 3 comes out.

ffow should add an accual ctp mode this would be easier than the frontlnes mode. it might also prevent the non agresive players from bunkering up.

 

iam agressive

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 phord prefect wrote:

wow pharoah... you get reinforcements?  must be nice... I usually cap the flag.. wait.. defend... and then get my *** handed back to me 6 vs 1... and then watch the flag get taken back....

lol, more often than not I end up BEING the reinforcements...but yea..ocaisionally..if you wait long enough.people will start to spawn where your at lol....apparently tho..they spawn with no ammo or something..cuz it never fails that the enemy takes the point just after I leave.

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No they spawn at the point you just captured but they run off to points unknown not worrying about defending any of the line at all.

 

I'd love to hook up with a bunch of you so we could actually run a map and tear it up.

 

I've been in rooms with Brand1sh and he's a beast, I think we won Village in about 10 minutes or so multiple times.

 

 

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I am getting tired of getting invited into a squad...and then no one speaks.

The squad leader's do not try to coordinate anything...usually running around in a chopper where chances are good you can't even spawn on them.

If you are not going to speak, or at least attempt to work as a team...why toss out the invites?

yeh, Brand1sh is an army of one.  bein in his squad makes the game a great deal less painful... actually.. it becomes pwning fun.  just don't shoot him down with aa vehicles on  solar farm.  makes 'em grouchy ;)

 

sry man....

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 xCoNx Coke Man wrote:

No they spawn at the point you just captured but they run off to points unknown not worrying about defending any of the line at all.

 

I'd love to hook up with a bunch of you so we could actually run a map and tear it up.

 

I've been in rooms with Brand1sh and he's a beast, I think we won Village in about 10 minutes or so multiple times.

 

 

Coke man, i dropped you a FR

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 phord prefect wrote:

yeh, Brand1sh is an army of one.  bein in his squad makes the game a great deal less painful... actually.. it becomes pwning fun.  just don't shoot him down with aa vehicles on  solar farm.  makes 'em grouchy ;)

 

sry man....

no you're not, you probably giggle your a$$ off ,, lol

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I need to start pro-actively trying tofind yall....lol..its been too long since ive played with people who knew what they were doing lol.

just had agame on solar farm....got a squad invite..joined in and the leader (sounding like 12) said to respawn on him when we die...so..I did..and spawned INSIDE the satelite dish at he communcation station..I asked him what he was doing up there...his response..was (they cant kill me when Im in here)...meanwhile our line was being pushed back, but he wouldnt hear none of it..he was safe where he was lol

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after the last Xbox update I had the idea of taken a alt. account(tag) and making it a clan roster list so we could have room on our FL outside of our clan. We can keep up with new members, returning member, send invites and msgs though the new viewing the friends list. we named it A 626 ROSTER A  so with the "a" in there it put right under all your on line friends. we could do the same for this game have all the forum regulars and friends all in one place.  

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 SouthernPharoah wrote:

I need to start pro-actively trying tofind yall....lol..its been too long since ive played with people who knew what they were doing lol.

just had agame on solar farm....got a squad invite..joined in and the leader (sounding like 12) said to respawn on him when we die...so..I did..and spawned INSIDE the satelite dish at he communcation station..I asked him what he was doing up there...his response..was (they cant kill me when Im in here)...meanwhile our line was being pushed back, but he wouldnt hear none of it..he was safe where he was lol

lmao thats awesome^^

i agree with everything said in this thread.  i thought i was being conceited but it really does feel like i am the only one doing any work, or my squad, and everyone else is at best serving as meat shields.

too many times i have seen the frontlines fall back, but the majority of the team does not fall back with it, they continue the fight on the former frontlines, unable to capture anything and probably wondering why it got so quiet.

one thing that really gets me, those recon drones are not supposed to be weapons!  :)

i sent some friend requests out, would be awesome if we all got together sometime.  maybe we can get together on healthygarretts private server, or whoever else has a good connection.

 Daemonocracy wrote:

i agree with everything said in this thread.  i thought i was being conceited but it really does feel like i am the only one doing any work, or my squad, and everyone else is at best serving as meat shields.

too many times i have seen the frontlines fall back, but the majority of the team does not fall back with it, they continue the fight on the former frontlines, unable to capture anything and probably wondering why it got so quiet.

one thing that really gets me, those recon drones are not supposed to be weapons!  :)

i sent some friend requests out, would be awesome if we all got together sometime.  maybe we can get together on healthygarretts private server, or whoever else has a good connection.

So true man.  When I run a drone tech  you can be next to positive my drone will be sitting in an almost impossible to shoot area tracking enemies near a capture point.  I try getting recon in place so assulting players can have the heads up on defenders.

 WandreCanada wrote:

So true man.  When I run a drone tech  you can be next to positive my drone will be sitting in an almost impossible to shoot area tracking enemies near a capture point.  I try getting recon in place so assulting players can have the heads up on defenders.

that makes things tons easier on the defenders....Ive had a few that did that recently...one guy used his drone..and told us which way they were coming from and such. made defending the objective ALOT easier..lol

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I cannot allow myself to use drones, but I appreciate those who actually use the recon drone to do recon. It helps the entire team.

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Why can't you use Drones? They are supremely fun, effective and deadly. More so on Ranked Servers, where people seem to have an adversion to using EMP Tech on maps that aren't Solarfarm or Oildfield.

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 DaiBoOk wrote:

after the last Xbox update I had the idea of taken a alt. account(tag) and making it a clan roster list so we could have room on our FL outside of our clan. We can keep up with new members, returning member, send invites and msgs though the new viewing the friends list. we named it A 626 ROSTER A  so with the "a" in there it put right under all your on line friends. we could do the same for this game have all the forum regulars and friends all in one place.  

guess no one liked my silver account idea

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last night I got nine kills  in a row defending a flag, then went north took the flag and pushed the line forward. Good ACTIVE players can help make or break the game, Im getting used to pushing the line forward by myself. but man my neighbors must think Im crazy the way I scream at my team. I can definatley see why they didnt put proxy chat on, and they shouldnt, hehe. anyways HOLD the line, and push it forward! let it fall back; and that will be the end of you and yours.

Looking for good WC players (send message and Ill return a FR), to squishy the commie Red Star, they have no honor and must be vapoorized.

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keep it up comrade! our work here is not done!

 DaiBoOk wrote:

 DaiBoOk wrote:

after the last Xbox update I had the idea of taken a alt. account(tag) and making it a clan roster list so we could have room on our FL outside of our clan. We can keep up with new members, returning member, send invites and msgs though the new viewing the friends list. we named it A 626 ROSTER A  so with the "a" in there it put right under all your on line friends. we could do the same for this game have all the forum regulars and friends all in one place.  

guess no one liked my silver account idea

It'd be a good idea but you'd have to play beside your computer to see the list and if you wanted to invite them to a game they'd have to be on your FL anyhow...  Sides I'd rather just be on your FL so you can join into the Shinanagins.  That one mountain top game we had running where a bunch of us forum noobs ended up together was teh hardcorez.

I want to see more forum noob teams!

Well I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one experiencing this. I'm so sadden by the fact that this game is not utilized to it's full potential.  I find myself not even bothering with squads and I usually roll solo b/c I get more accomplished with that than bothering with the other players.  I've had a couple of times so far since I've had this game where I got on a good talking squad.  *** right now they either don't talk, don't listen to me trying to give good recon, or don't coordinate among themselves.  The dummies that blow right past capture points, allow the enemy to capture the points while standing nearby, and the other stupid players who clown around really frustrate me during the game.  Hopefully after a while the game will narrow down to those that want to utilize this squad and frontlines system.

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 WandreCanada wrote:

 DaiBoOk wrote:

 DaiBoOk wrote:

after the last Xbox update I had the idea of taken a alt. account(tag) and making it a clan roster list so we could have room on our FL outside of our clan. We can keep up with new members, returning member, send invites and msgs though the new viewing the friends list. we named it A 626 ROSTER A  so with the "a" in there it put right under all your on line friends. we could do the same for this game have all the forum regulars and friends all in one place.  

guess no one liked my silver account idea

It'd be a good idea but you'd have to play beside your computer to see the list and if you wanted to invite them to a game they'd have to be on your FL anyhow...  Sides I'd rather just be on your FL so you can join into the Shinanagins.  That one mountain top game we had running where a bunch of us forum noobs ended up together was teh hardcorez.

I want to see more forum noob teams!

Play next to your computer? I have two of those accounts that I belong too for FFoW and it works really well. All you have to do is hit the guide button and pull up your  FL, find the special group FL  and go to the friends of that FL. You can join anyones game on that list, even if they aren't on YOUR friends list. With the two special FL for FFoW I use, I usually have at least 20 or more people to join.