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   08-09-2008, 3:27 AM
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Re: PC drivers for chatpad
Im a gammer but I hate to put my keybord on my lap and type, I love the wireless controler emu the mouse and other task with eaze + a keybord thats on ur hands would be cool and also more people will buy it ALOT more, just make the chatpad as more buttons because my emu program can suport 1000 buttons so ill take time config but it would be worth it plz. A Gamer Words.
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   08-18-2008, 7:21 AM
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I too would like to see these drivers come to be, Microsoft. One of the more recent trends in technology is towards integration, a key element in xbox 360. Please take this level of integration one step further by releasing the drivers for the messenger kit.
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   09-05-2008, 1:50 PM
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Please microsoft, we (PC gamers everywhere) need a driver for the chatpad, this would be such a cool piece of kit if it worked. Just a driver will do the comunity will do the rest. I dont think its too much to ask, since you were making stuff for PC long before the xbox exsisted, dont forget us pc gamers. PS i for one would pay extra for a chatpad driver.
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   09-11-2008, 11:11 AM
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Bump! - bought the chatpad yesterday and am really disappointed that it doesn't work in Windows.. - it's a fantastic little bit of kit as well, but will only get limited use on the 360.. - it would be fantastic if it would work under Windows.. - great for a media centre PC.. - it would be good if MS could at least reply and state one way or another if drivers are ever going to be available???
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   10-16-2008, 4:41 PM
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   Don't let this important issue die out. I purchased the chatpad recently thinking that it would be able to run on a PC (360 - Windows) I mean come on! Just think about the possibilities of using this on a PC.  It’s been a long enough wait for us as your consumers, get some drivers out already. And if they aren't capable of gracing us with this product, isn't there some 360 user out there who knows as much as these hacks and can create the drivers?

 

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   10-17-2008, 10:37 AM
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Wow, is this the little thread that wouldn't die?

Has anyone here tried to write a driver for it? The Windows DDK is a bit brutal, but this should be possible with a little bit of reverse engineering.


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   10-17-2008, 1:45 PM
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I really wanted to buy this for my PC, but it seems the drivers are never going to come.

I'm from Mexico, but... is not possible to sue MS there in the US because of "Misleading descriptions" (I don't know if that's the term but you get the point).

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   10-24-2008, 4:58 PM
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The big problem with this is that the DDK doesn't have the information on the device itself. Writing the driver is trivial in comparison to discovering what exactly the driver needs to do to work with the hardware. .

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The "little bit" of reverse engineering, at this point, means the whole XBOX360, since that's where the only example of a working driver lives, but just where it is in the 360 is still a mystery to those outside the hallowed halls of Redmond. .

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Some of the folks over at mp3car.com seem to be discovering some of the secrets, but some of the stuff going between the 360 and the controller look random, and not consistent between tries. It's a little like learning to count to 10 when all you have to go on is "one two sixteen seven fourtythree, seventytwo, three eleven five four nine eight ten."

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   10-25-2008, 12:57 AM
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that would be sweet if they release pc drivers

i would pickup the pad the same day

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   11-25-2008, 8:51 PM
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Here Here!  Microsoft, please make this happen.  We've been crying out for a year over this.
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   12-02-2008, 7:25 AM
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Same deal here.  I bought the Chatpad so I can use it to play games on my Vista PC.  Doesn't this fall under false advertising?  I really want to get this working, and I'm tired of Microsoft changing their words with every new email.
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   12-04-2008, 4:03 PM
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I'm at this point pretty sure that Microsoft doesn't want us to use the chatpad on our PC maybe its a lisance thing or a copy right thing or they dont want blizzard sewing them for giving people an advatage in there game who knows but at this point a year later and still no drivers seems fishy to me
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   12-17-2008, 5:12 AM
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The only reason I bought the chatpad in the first place was for Games for Windows Live, I get it home and discover it does not work... MS please release the drivers for PC, someone somewhere in the hall of MS has one..
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   12-17-2008, 12:37 PM
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I've got the chatpad (Also known as the messenger keypad). 

Never tried using it on the PC, but I have used my Xbox360 pad on my Laptop via the USB (Ofcourse) and it was ok, kinda fun and different.

Why would you want drivers for it thow?  If you've got a keyboard.  I'm lost!
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   12-19-2008, 4:04 AM
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 M3NPHU3S wrote:
Why would you want drivers for it thow?  If you've got a keyboard.  I'm lost!

Because with the 360 controller and potential chatpad drivers you would have a full functional wireless keyboard and mouse substitute. I have been wanting drivers for a while but it looks like the day will never come.

I keep it real.

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   12-19-2008, 6:13 PM
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 Quicksilver4648 wrote:
 M3NPHU3S wrote:
Why would you want drivers for it thow?  If you've got a keyboard.  I'm lost!

Because with the 360 controller and potential chatpad drivers you would have a full functional wireless keyboard and mouse substitute. I have been wanting drivers for a while but it looks like the day will never come.
Ohhhhhhhhhh ok! I'm with you now!
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   12-19-2008, 8:17 PM
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Random question, but does the 360 control mapped as a mouse seem to function ok on the PC?

If yes then some of you may like my idea found here. For them who dont want to visit I will tell you what it is - a Remote Desktop client.

It would mean you could do everything you can at your PC but via the comfort of your sofa on your big HDTV Wink [;)] - and if the 360 controller works fine as a mouse thats great news for me lol.
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   12-20-2008, 6:24 AM
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Random question, but does the 360 control mapped as a mouse seem to function ok on the PC?

I use Pinnacle Game Profiler with my 360 controller which allowed me to customize everything you can imagine on the controller. For example, I can map keyboard/mouse buttons to the controller and I can tweak the sensitivity of the analog sticks. I used my controller as a wireless mouse and it worked flawlessly. Right trigger was left mouse click, left trigger was right click, the analog sticks were mouse, and the start button was the enter key. I just wish there were chatpad drivers so that I would also have a wireless keyboard for quick chatting and entering site urls.

I keep it real.

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   12-20-2008, 11:55 AM
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Well...

Will work with future Xbox 360 Wireless Accessories


is what I read on the wireless gaming receiver product sheet *today*. It was the same when the chatpad came out. Is that chatpad a wireless accessory? It surely is. Then Microsoft, where the heck is the driver? Could you release an official statement or what?

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   12-20-2008, 6:48 PM
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 Quicksilver4648 wrote:
 N Devil 87 wrote:
Random question, but does the 360 control mapped as a mouse seem to function ok on the PC?

I use Pinnacle Game Profiler with my 360 controller which allowed me to customize everything you can imagine on the controller. For example, I can map keyboard/mouse buttons to the controller and I can tweak the sensitivity of the analog sticks. I used my controller as a wireless mouse and it worked flawlessly. Right trigger was left mouse click, left trigger was right click, the analog sticks were mouse, and the start button was the enter key. I just wish there were chatpad drivers so that I would also have a wireless keyboard for quick chatting and entering site urls.
Cool, figured it would. Just had a complaint is all over on my thread saying "are you really expecting folks tolerate using mouse emulation through their controller?" - even though in post 1 I said if MS wanted they could add mouse support on the 360 for specific applications just as they have added USB keyboard support... same goes for chatpad drivers for the PC, MS could do it.
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   12-22-2008, 3:57 PM
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I'm not going to buy the chatpad until it works with XP.

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   12-24-2008, 9:24 PM
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I am extremely angry with Microsoft over this. I, like a few others here, have a tough time using the keyboard and this thing was a godsend. The packaging seemed to say that it would work with the PC. Heck, half of Microsoft's own tech support seem to think that it works with the PC. Honestly, I'm surprised that there isn't a lawsuit over false advertisement yet.
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   01-02-2009, 3:42 AM
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I've spoken to a lawyer friend of mine, and pretty much stated that they could get creamed over that one statement of “Will work with future Xbox 360 Wireless Accessories” clearly printed on the box.
Let alone, at no point stating that it will not work under Windows XP/Vista.

Class action maybe? I wouldn’t sue for money, just a DAMN DRIVER!

Either way, yes there is one way of getting the keyboard working under window XP or Vista, and it’s not a driver is a program that requires both flashing the controller and a xbox360 on and running, and a client application running on the pc. You don’t even connect the xbox360 controller to the computer as far as my understanding goes, as all the information is sent to the xbox360 then via some TCP communication to a application on your computer. This is only my understanding I could be wrong. But it does also require flashing the controller itself. Anyhoo have a read here http://a3w.ivory.ne.jp/softwares/xpcc_en.html
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http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=qWWIuh1vsoM

I myself am extremely upset that the audio headset pass through the controller as a USB Headset, yet the serial I/O interface of the chatpad isn’t even detected. Really how hard can it be?
PSP owers have got this keyboard working with their PSP’s?

I bought this chatpad attachment under the assumption that it would be compatible under Vista through the USB Xbox360 Wireless Receiver. It doesn’t work, so it’s basically useless to me.

I’ll tell you one thing, as soon as the Sony PS3 Chatpad arrives here, the 360 Messenger Kit is going in the bin, unless Microsoft pull their finger out.

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   01-02-2009, 6:36 PM
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There is a little confusion about the one way that currently exists to get ChatPad keypresses to show up on your computer. It does not require reflashing (or any other modification to the controller), but instead, it uses an Xbox360 running a fake game, a program that takes whatever you do with the controller, and sends it to the computer. On the computer end, another program that acts like a game connects to the Xbox360 "game" over XboxLive, and fakes the keypresses and other inputs, to make it look as if it's coming from a controller (joystick, gamepad, keyboard, and/or mouse) connected directly to the computer. To make this work, you need several things:
Chatpad and XBox360 controller (naturally) XBox360 (to connect between the controller and internet) XBoxLive account (so the XBox360 can go online) XNA Creators Club Premium Membership (so you can get the game program from the computer to the XBox360) Microsoft Visual C# 2008 Express Edition (to make the programs) XNA Gaming Studio 3.0 (more programming parts) XPCC source code (the fake "games") Windows XP or Vista computer (again, naturally!) Internet connections for both machines.
I didn't bother to check into the XBoxLive membership costs, but the XNA membership you need has to be at the $119 USD yearly rate or above ($59/4 months), and you have to be online with both machines, which likely means you need a second net connection or a router. With everything else you need to get and maintain, this is far from an inexpensive solution, and makes the Logitech Dinovo Mini look downright economical, even with a $100+USD price tag. Now, the PSP connection works differently. With that, the people have taken apart the ChatPad, replaced the programming code inside the chips in the ChatPad, added wires to the insides of the ChatPad and PSP, totally voiding all the associated warranties. You don't use the XBox360 controller at all, just the ChatPad. One of the big reasons the PSP connection works is that the XBox360 is not in the way, since nobody outside of Microsoft knows how to make the serial interface work, or they can't talk about it because of non-disclosure agreements. Also, just what the ChatPad normally sends when you hit a key is also a mystery, subject to the above limitations. The PSP people took apart the hardware, and effectively rebuilt it from the chips up to make it work, and while it's far from a trivial effort, it doesn't do much to help you buy a package off the shelf that will actually work the way the package suggests it already should. There's no PS3 ChatPad, nor is there likely to be one. The PS3 can use a regular USB keyboard, or a normal, standard, Bluetooth cordless keyboard. The PS3 controllers, both the SixAxis and the DualShock3, don't have extra ports for a chatpad, and also connect over Bluetooth, another standard connection. Heck, you can likely even use the Apple Bluetooth Keyboards with your PS3, and it's no stretch to suggest that a lot of those Dinovo Minis are going to be connected to PS3s. (The Mini will connect with any Bluetooth-enabled Mac, out of the box, without any drivers or difficulties. I haven't had a chance to thoroughly test it yet, but I don't envision any difficulties with other computers.) There is at least one chatpad-like device out for the PS3, and it is effectively a little USB keyboard and some high-class duct tape, so you can stick it on the PS3 controller. Comparing this to the ChatPad is like comparing Marv Albert in a dress to Pam Anderson -- sure, there's some sort of resemblance, but if you take even the most distant of close looks, you will know that something there just isn't even close to being the same. I'm still holding on to my ChatPads, after all, Microsoft already has my money, and I'm not going to just throw it away. This sort of thing should be trivial for those in the know, with the development information, specifications, design engineers, and other support people. It's just a lack of will, or a marketing position that keeps this stuff from working. By the way, I provide this Message "as-is," "with all faults," and "as available." I do not guarantee the accuracy or timeliness of information available from this Message. And I still believe that XNA is the Xerox Networking Architecture, and is likely still a trademark of Xerox, even though Microsoft seems to be using it for their own purposes now.
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   01-19-2009, 6:17 PM
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Sounds like Microsoft just does not give a crap about making drivers for this piece of hardware.
But hey, they are the world's biggest company, and have nobody to answer to.
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   01-20-2009, 9:01 PM
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Sign me up for the class action lawsuit.  If some idiot can try to sue them because he moved his game system while the disc was spinning, this issue actually has merit.
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   02-04-2009, 7:14 PM
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I'm currently looking for a controller for my pc. I don't own a ps3 or 360 but I was looking into using either controllers. You can make the dualshock 3 work on the pc via unofficial drivers and a few free programs. Right now I'm leaning towards the dualshock 3, mainly because of the fact that microsoft has not released a driver for the chatpad yet. If it was supported for PC, I would gladly go with the wireless controller with wireless receiver combo. I want the chatpad so I can type in my MMOs without having to put the controller down and switch to a keyboard. But sadly, since I won't be getting that functionality either way, I might as well go with the Dualshock 3 because feels better in my hands. Dualshock 3 is also a cheaper wireless controller since I won't have to pay for the receiver (connects via bluetooth).

Sorry Microsoft, you lost my business and you will continue to do so if you keep this up. Stop trying to push 360 already, most people that want it have it. Focus on Games for Windows Live and PC compatibility.
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   03-01-2009, 4:52 AM
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hello help
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   03-03-2009, 2:15 PM
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I was "this" close to buy a chatpad to use it on my pc. Too bad microsoft is *** with the PC users for a while now ... I mean how hard can it be to write a little driver for the chatpad? Almost a year and a half since the release and no driver!!!
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   03-10-2009, 7:56 PM
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Yeah, i agree - this is ridiculous! Microsoft are losing out on big £££s by leaving out this driver! I mean who wants to be dependant on their console running every second they are on their computer?!?! Not me! I just wish I could just connect my controller + chatpad to my PC and just use it as a mouse and keyboard, and i know that many other people do too. In fact, if Microsoft were to release drivers, the sales of chatpads and even controllers would rocket! I honestly cannot see why they do not just create a driver - it cant be that difficult for the manufacturer of the product to do this, surely!!
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