DownIgo wrote:

well for one Guan Yu does variety i don't have a a clue wtf your talking about also go look at gamefaqs for achievement so obviously get off your ***

I believe what he's trying to say is the whole button combinations like X,X,X,Y and so forth, although they made it that it still combines quite nicely, but there's nothing special when you do a combo like X,X,X,Y.

All they really need to do is throw in more maps, get rid of clones for this game to be great, and probably a few other things, but I'm too lazy to think of them at the moment.

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 Rickey1979 wrote:

 DownIgo wrote:

well for one Guan Yu does variety i don't have a a clue wtf your talking about also go look at gamefaqs for achievement so obviously get off your ***

I believe what he's trying to say is the whole button combinations like X,X,X,Y and so forth, although they made it that it still combines quite nicely, but there's nothing special when you do a combo like X,X,X,Y.

All they really need to do is throw in more maps, get rid of clones for this game to be great, and probably a few other things, but I'm too lazy to think of them at the moment.

 

Thankyou, you spoke my mind and I don't have the time to go looking for those achievments, it's not that I'm lazy.

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along renbu you get more to so let 2 renbu you XXXYY for 3 XXXYYY it will expand and it will be more powerful also the maps arent clones they have lots of character that are involed in similar battles

 DownIgo wrote:

along renbu you get more to so let 2 renbu you XXXYY for 3 XXXYYY it will expand and it will be more powerful also the maps arent clones they have lots of character that are involed in similar battles

I didn't say the maps were clones, I was talking about the Character's.

For Example:  If you've ever played as Guan Ping and Ling Tong you'll notice that the movement is the exact same, but they just threw in different elements for each character.

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 PhsYcoon wrote:

I hate how you can't do combos now. They stuffed up the game. Because of this one tiny thing, I don't play the game anymore. I mean, I love all Dynasty warriors games but this game put me off. I played it for one day and didn't play after that! Why did they change the people's weapons? Lu Bu is now some cheapo with some dumb circle blade thing. They wrecked it.

I must say, I am a huge fan of those Koei hack and slash games going from Dynasty Warriors to Samurai Warriors. They may have taken away those sweet combos that almost everyone has enjoyed. But the small little other elements in Dynasty Warriors 6 made the game just more awesome than before. As valiant heart had already said, the renbu system is a great addition to the series. Also the ability to swim, climb and the skill system are just amazing. It just made the burning boat level very fun playing as Gan Ning. There were a lot of epic moments in that game where it got pretty tough and exciting that I haven't really experienced in the past with this series. They worked pretty hard on the whole experience system as well. In addition to your bodyguard choices, you also get a wonderful selection of horses. And they level up. I have to admit that it isn't the best of ideas, but hey. It got me using them more frequently. But don't get me wrong. Your reason for hating the game is completely legitimate. I too was dissapointed at first. Just like valiant heart, Xiahou Dun  was one of my favorite characters. Now with his large zanbatō-like thing, it was so boring playing as him. He attacks far too slow for my taste. But some of the new weapons were improvements. This game has its cons and pro's. You can either see them as minor improvements or not but it still is a Dynasty Warriors game. So don't be a hater.

Sorry but I don't like change and if they were going to change it so much, why not just make it a non-dynasty warriors game? Like how they made SW.

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For me, I'm a huge fan of the DW series (everything from DW3 and so on)

DW6 looks like it has a lot of potential for new ideas for new DW games, if they make them.

As for me, I have a lot of ideas I would like them to hear and would probably take into consideration when  or if they make a new DW

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if anything, i think dw6 brings a bit more realism to the series. instead of an arrow flying straight it has an arch. and every1 knows when ur assualting a castle u dont just kill someone or something and the gate opens...u have to break those bastards down!!! i do really like the new combo system tho. brings something new and lightens up on the button mashing

 B1GG1N40324 wrote:

if anything, i think dw6 brings a bit more realism to the series. instead of an arrow flying straight it has an arch. and every1 knows when ur assualting a castle u dont just kill someone or something and the gate opens...u have to break those bastards down!!! i do really like the new combo system tho. brings something new and lightens up on the button mashing

I have been playing it a lot more recently and I agree. It does add a bit more realism to the series. I have also noticed an improvement in movement and attack styles.  Even though some of the weapons are not as good as they used to be, they are more realistic and eventually more fun to use. If you miss the old dynasty warriors style. Samurai Warriors 2 did a good job enhancing it while keeping the same style. It's a pretty good game too.

It's only the graphics that make it look realistic, not the renbu system. What do you mean, button mashing on the old games? On this game you practically press the same button the whole time to do the same attack every time.

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 PhsYcoon wrote:

It's only the graphics that make it look realistic, not the renbu system. What do you mean, button mashing on the old games? On this game you practically press the same button the whole time to do the same attack every time.

You can give this game the shittiest graphics and it will still be more realistic than the older installments. Like he said, the way arrows have an arc, and how they fly down from the sky. When you have to break down the doors of castles rather than kill someone. Also the ability to swim, and climb up ladders etc. Not to forget that the strategists are now completely awesome and worth playing as. On some levels of their campaign you have the choice of following through on their plans or not.  The new skill system is a great addition. As far as the button mashing comment. I think what he was trying to say was, instead of always using xxxxy. Instead you have to really think about what you are doing. Either use the X attack or the Y attack, or the block X or block Y, depending on the situtation. I have to admit, the combo system isn't at its best but it still is fun. I do miss the X and Y combos as well as the level 5 weapons and inventory system. But I'll live without. Who knows, the new Dynasty Warriors special might bring back all these elements.

I think the reason Koei did this is because they realized if they are going to create another installment of Dynasty Warriors. They are going to have to do some drastic change. I mean, jesus, this is the 6th installment. Not much has improved from any of them until now. They needed to give an incentive to buy this one. They did, and it worked. People either hated it or loved it. But they did what they needed to make another installment without it being completely rediculous.

 erosennin7 wrote:

 PhsYcoon wrote:

It's only the graphics that make it look realistic, not the renbu system. What do you mean, button mashing on the old games? On this game you practically press the same button the whole time to do the same attack every time.

 Who knows, the new Dynasty Warriors special might bring back all these elements.

I think the reason Koei did this is because they realized if they are going to create another installment of Dynasty Warriors. They are going to have to do some drastic change. I mean, jesus, this is the 6th installment. Not much has improved from any of them until now. They needed to give an incentive to buy this one. They did, and it worked. People either hated it or loved it. But they did what they needed to make another installment without it being completely rediculous.

Just sayin' on the Dynasty Warriors 6: Special, as of right now I believe it's only going to be released on PS2, but there is still a possibiltiy that you could download it over LIVE or PSN...for a price(I don't think it'll happen at this rate).  The only things that are different in this "special" version is that now these people have a unique moveset and I think a musou mode as well:

Ma Chao - Huge sword...what the duck?

Cao Pi - An even longer sword than before

Ling Tong - If you've played as Hideyoshi Toyotomi in SW2, Ling Tong has the same weapon now

Yue Ying - Instead of a bow she has a Crossbow...

Zhang He - He got his claws back

Taishi Ci - He got his twin rods back

Other than that they've also added more maps/levels because of the new additions in musou mode I think.

The one thing that angers me about this is that if all of this could fit on a PS2 disc, then they should have been able to do so much more with the 360 and PS3, but the game was rushed for reasons I'm too lazy to explain right now.

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 Rickey1979 wrote:

 

The one thing that angers me about this is that if all of this could fit on a PS2 disc, then they should have been able to do so much more with the 360 and PS3, but the game was rushed for reasons I'm too lazy to explain right now.

Oh please do explain. I had no idea this game was rushed.

PS: I'm dissapointed with all the ps2 exclusive releases so that can keep that black box alive.

 Rickey1979 wrote:

 erosennin7 wrote:

 PhsYcoon wrote:

It's only the graphics that make it look realistic, not the renbu system. What do you mean, button mashing on the old games? On this game you practically press the same button the whole time to do the same attack every time.

 Who knows, the new Dynasty Warriors special might bring back all these elements.

I think the reason Koei did this is because they realized if they are going to create another installment of Dynasty Warriors. They are going to have to do some drastic change. I mean, jesus, this is the 6th installment. Not much has improved from any of them until now. They needed to give an incentive to buy this one. They did, and it worked. People either hated it or loved it. But they did what they needed to make another installment without it being completely rediculous.

Just sayin' on the Dynasty Warriors 6: Special, as of right now I believe it's only going to be released on PS2, but there is still a possibiltiy that you could download it over LIVE or PSN...for a price(I don't think it'll happen at this rate).  The only things that are different in this "special" version is that now these people have a unique moveset and I think a musou mode as well:

Ma Chao - Huge sword...what the duck?

Cao Pi - An even longer sword than before

Ling Tong - If you've played as Hideyoshi Toyotomi in SW2, Ling Tong has the same weapon now

Yue Ying - Instead of a bow she has a Crossbow...

Zhang He - He got his claws back

Taishi Ci - He got his twin rods back

Other than that they've also added more maps/levels because of the new additions in musou mode I think.

The one thing that angers me about this is that if all of this could fit on a PS2 disc, then they should have been able to do so much more with the 360 and PS3, but the game was rushed for reasons I'm too lazy to explain right now.

 

I haven't checked the Koei website for a while now so I didn't know about this DW6:S. I hope they change this renbu system in Xtreme Ledgends.

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 PhsYcoon wrote:

 Rickey1979 wrote:

 erosennin7 wrote:

 PhsYcoon wrote:

It's only the graphics that make it look realistic, not the renbu system. What do you mean, button mashing on the old games? On this game you practically press the same button the whole time to do the same attack every time.

 Who knows, the new Dynasty Warriors special might bring back all these elements.

I think the reason Koei did this is because they realized if they are going to create another installment of Dynasty Warriors. They are going to have to do some drastic change. I mean, jesus, this is the 6th installment. Not much has improved from any of them until now. They needed to give an incentive to buy this one. They did, and it worked. People either hated it or loved it. But they did what they needed to make another installment without it being completely rediculous.

Just sayin' on the Dynasty Warriors 6: Special, as of right now I believe it's only going to be released on PS2, but there is still a possibiltiy that you could download it over LIVE or PSN...for a price(I don't think it'll happen at this rate).  The only things that are different in this "special" version is that now these people have a unique moveset and I think a musou mode as well:

Ma Chao - Huge sword...what the duck?

Cao Pi - An even longer sword than before

Ling Tong - If you've played as Hideyoshi Toyotomi in SW2, Ling Tong has the same weapon now

Yue Ying - Instead of a bow she has a Crossbow...

Zhang He - He got his claws back

Taishi Ci - He got his twin rods back

Other than that they've also added more maps/levels because of the new additions in musou mode I think.

The one thing that angers me about this is that if all of this could fit on a PS2 disc, then they should have been able to do so much more with the 360 and PS3, but the game was rushed for reasons I'm too lazy to explain right now.

 

I haven't checked the Koei website for a while now so I didn't know about this DW6:S. I hope they change this renbu system in Xtreme Ledgends.

Well it comes out in North America sometime around November I believe, and I forgot to mention they took out the ability to swim on the ps2 version.  As for the renbu system I think you'll have to wait until DW7 is released though who knows when that'll be.

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Alright, I had just tried playing Dynasty Warriors 5. I cannot go back after playing 6. I must say 6 is extremely better and its just boring to play 5.


Anyway, I wonder if the Dynasty Warriors 6 special release is maybe the same release for the PC. It was said that Dynasty warriors 6 for the pc and ps2 is being released november 18th. That being said....it might just be another pc/ps2 exclusive.  I don't see Dynasty Warriors 7 being released unless they add online multiplayer. That's pretty much the most desired and only addition left. It probably wont even be called Dynasty warriors 7 due to marketing. Probably Dynasty Warriors online. I'm going way too ahead of this time though. I'm not so sure Koei has any plans for that sort of thing. Although they are close to perfecting gameplay maybe it is time for online play.

 erosennin7 wrote:

Alright, I had just tried playing Dynasty Warriors 5. I cannot go back after playing 6. I must say 6 is extremely better and its just boring to play 5.


Anyway, I wonder if the Dynasty Warriors 6 special release is maybe the same release for the PC. It was said that Dynasty warriors 6 for the pc and ps2 is being released november 18th. That being said....it might just be another pc/ps2 exclusive.  I don't see Dynasty Warriors 7 being released unless they add online multiplayer. That's pretty much the most desired and only addition left. It probably wont even be called Dynasty warriors 7 due to marketing. Probably Dynasty Warriors online. I'm going way too ahead of this time though. I'm not so sure Koei has any plans for that sort of thing. Although they are close to perfecting gameplay maybe it is time for online play.

Actually they do have a Dynasty Warriors Online released in Japan for the PC called Dynasty Warriors: BB.  Basically you make a character and go into battles and do certain missions and what not, and eventually decide on a force to join.  It has been mention there will be a release for the game in NA at some point in time, but as of right now it is only known to be on PC and the PS3 I think.

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Hmm. I went ahead and looked at the trailer. It's safe to say that the renbu system is not there haha. I just hope they keep the gameplay the same or improve it. They could easily turn this installment into a failure. Hopefully they develope a good incentive to play this version. Maybe character customization and rpg elements such as finding new equiptment. Koei just needs to be very careful.

Very true.

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 PhsYcoon wrote:

I hate how you can't do combos now. They stuffed up the game. Because of this one tiny thing, I don't play the game anymore. I mean, I love all Dynasty warriors games but this game put me off. I played it for one day and didn't play after that! Why did they change the people's weapons? Lu Bu is now some cheapo with some dumb circle blade thing. They wrecked it.

That is a shame.

I agree that without the combos the combat is even more repetative than it was before (if that's possible) - I like you have played every game in the DW series - including all of the Extreme Legends & Empires games... aswell as the others Dynasty Tactics - Kessen - Romance of the Three Kingdoms etc.

And trust me when I say that, while they have changed somethings in the game for the worst - they have also improved alot of stuff for the better.

The way your army has to build ladders/rams/catapaults in order to take down an enemy gate is a big leap forward... the battles actually feel more like the rest of the army is involved now.

Rather than judge it based on the other games.. try and judge it for what it is on it's own.

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Orochi Warriors 2 is def. better then Dynasty warriors 6.

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All there is to DW 6 is better graphics, unlimited attacks, better characters, etc.  This is probably the last DW game I'm gonna buy I mean come on.  They did the same type of game for a long time now.  Theyre goal was to perfect DW and they did with DW 6 but I think its time for new ideas

It bugged me that some of my favorite characters were missing in the main story mode. I liked the whole Nanman part of ther previous games and i have yet to see anyone from that tribe/area. I miss they whole create a warrior part. Overall im content with the game. Sometimes I get in my moods where i will play this for a week straight.