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   12-09-2008, 4:27 PM
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This thread shows why I stopped playing this game.

Elitist crap like this. To think I was actually thinking about picking this up again.
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   12-09-2008, 6:56 PM
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 Dremora Warlord wrote:
 Bucky O Hare69 wrote:
 SRthekiller wrote:
 certleader wrote:
there are many reasons that i will not name but only 3 about why that isn't a good idea 1. too much time is used the hull is very hard 2. too many ships and or planes will be taken out 3.you probley wount win the battle if there are more ships if the 2nd reason accures so yea thanks for the post tho.
OK let me get this through you peoples heads, if you have a destroyer you have speed on your side + TORPS, If you stick 4 well placed torps on the Yamoto It will go down on any ship you'll only have to stick a maximum of 4 torps to sink a ship if you dont think its such a good idea i dare you to try it and you'll win every level


Your joking right????

4 torps will sink the yamato??  In your dreams my friend.


Well, do to the fact that this fool has a silver account, I think he means single player. But it still doesn't make sense if it is single player, because there is no map where you have a DD and the enemy has a BB in single player, not even the challenge missions... I don't know what he's talking about.

I say we play him online, destroy him, and prove him wrong. Sound like a plan?


Sounds like a plan mate!!  :-)
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   12-09-2008, 6:58 PM
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 Kellysm wrote:
This thread shows why I stopped playing this game.

Elitist crap like this. To think I was actually thinking about picking this up again.


Elitist??  Not really, just talking sense.

We were discussing the best way to kill a BB - than that fool comes in with comments like that.  I think you'll find Dremora left a lengthy explanation of the best way to kill said BB - so, not elitist at all, realistic and helpful are two words I'd use to desctribe it!
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   12-09-2008, 9:33 PM
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OK IM GONNA PLAY YOU 2 DAYS AFTER CHRISTMAS THEN WELL WE WILL SEE WHOS RIGHT


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   12-10-2008, 12:44 AM
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I think you vets are being a little critical of the OP. Hes probably ten years old give him a break. And the ridiculous amount of quoting makes it very difficult to read a thread.
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   12-10-2008, 12:18 PM
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 Jack459 wrote:
I think you vets are being a little critical of the OP. Hes probably ten years old give him a break. And the ridiculous amount of quoting makes it very difficult to read a thread.
NA IM 13 AND THESE CRACK HEADS NEED TO STOP TALKING THEIR CRAP
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   12-10-2008, 8:18 PM
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 Jack459 wrote:
I think you vets are being a little critical of the OP. Hes probably ten years old give him a break. And the ridiculous amount of quoting makes it very difficult to read a thread.
NA IM 13 AND THESE CRACK HEADS NEED TO STOP TALKING THEIR CRAP

learn 2 troll lulz

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   12-10-2008, 11:24 PM
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I guess he proved my point.

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   12-12-2008, 10:14 AM
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I guess he proved my point.



Fancy a 1 v 1 tonight then Jack??
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   12-12-2008, 8:54 PM
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sure... give me time and a fr i guess. I should be on at 7 or 8 pm eastern standard. And my previous comment was in regards to what srkiller said. And i will host as the last time i played a match vs you and razgriz... someone shut off ur xbox i believe?
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   12-14-2008, 1:24 PM
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Cool, I've not been on for a few days - been busy with a lady friend lol


Ahh was that you?  Sorry about fella, that would have been my ex girlfriend when I fell asleep at the controls of the Iowa lol......I'm in the UK you see so staying up late enough to play US players is a challenge sometimes.
I'm on a day off work tomorrow though so I will be on late tonight!  I'll send you a FR!

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   12-21-2008, 4:40 AM
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 Bucky O Hare69 wrote:

Cool, I've not been on for a few days - been busy with a lady friend lol


Ahh was that you?  Sorry about fella, that would have been my ex girlfriend when I fell asleep at the controls of the Iowa lol......I'm in the UK you see so staying up late enough to play US players is a challenge sometimes.
I'm on a day off work tomorrow though so I will be on late tonight!  I'll send you a FR!




looool.

aside from the trolling and flaming over this uestion, which i find slightly disappointing. I'll try an give a mediators answer

the secret of all secrets is, theres really no secret.  battleships are deadly from any angle you approach them at, I'm susprised no one has pointed out how vulnerable they are to air attacks.  from sea  your best bet is with a group of ships to try an outnumber the battleship your picking the fight with. having a carrier in your deck of cards is a nice touch, and will definatley make the possibility of winning in the end that much greater.

in the end, timing and skill is what determines whos going to win.

at any angle, way you attack.

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   01-14-2009, 4:59 PM
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The answer is simple with either a sub or with planes.  Neither of those 2 are easy but losing a sub or a few planes won't lose you the game.  However losing a battleship might.
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   01-19-2009, 7:43 AM
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I'm a stupid dummy with a stupid face and have no legs.
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   01-25-2009, 5:04 AM
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my two cents is that it requires a combination of torpedoes and ship guns at a simultaneous moment. If your side has a submarine, then you want to prowl underneath it, and when your side has a battleship or cruiser that gets in gun range, you attack while he is being hit by guns. Or you move your torpedo bombing squadrons in at the same time as your big ships are hitting it. That way, the opposing player will have a harder time manuevering his ship to avoid the torpedoes while maintaining accurate ship gun attacks against the dueling battleship. Also, he will have a harder time putting all his damage control off. That is the key, is forcing an opponent, to manuever, shoot, and damage control at the same time.
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   01-27-2009, 4:57 PM
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my two cents is that it requires a combination of torpedoes and ship guns at a simultaneous moment. If your side has a submarine, then you want to prowl underneath it, and when your side has a battleship or cruiser that gets in gun range, you attack while he is being hit by guns. Or you move your torpedo bombing squadrons in at the same time as your big ships are hitting it. That way, the opposing player will have a harder time manuevering his ship to avoid the torpedoes while maintaining accurate ship gun attacks against the dueling battleship. Also, he will have a harder time putting all his damage control off. That is the key, is forcing an opponent, to manuever, shoot, and damage control at the same time.


agreed
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   01-30-2009, 6:31 AM
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Dremora, there is no doubt you know what you are talking about, but, why do have to talk down to people like they are retards.  If the guy is wrong, then correct him and leave it at that.  I don't understand all the arrogance.
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   02-05-2009, 10:07 PM
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Dremora, there is no doubt you know what you are talking about, but, why do have to talk down to people like they are retards.  If the guy is wrong, then correct him and leave it at that.  I don't understand all the arrogance.


X2

Lay off the haterade. there isnt enough of us who play to talk crap. this isnt a very helpfull thread with all the useless bashing. Maybe if people chilled the **** out more people would pick it up and try it out.
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   02-16-2009, 5:37 PM
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What happens to those odds when you send a BB vs. a submarine with the same players against each other? Odds are tipped strongly in favor of the submarine, simply because the BB has no means for self-defence, unless the submarine surfaces.

BB-1, SS-0. That is going to be the end result.

Did you even read my post? Specifically the part about hull damage?There is no excuse for having your battleship being chased by a submarine. The only two multiplayer maps that have both SS and BBs have battle cruisers and 'fast' battleships so to speak (When I say 'fast', I mean BBs that go 25 kt in the game). The SS can't catch up to a BB no matter how hard it tries. Both maps also have shorelines. In the case of Solomon islands, you can see straight away if you enemy launches a submarine. If that is the case you keep the CAs close to the BB and send up some depth charge planes when it comes into range. After the shipyards are down and let's say that they still have one sub lurking around, just put up a couple of sets of fighters for CAP to keep your sonar source alive. Even if it does manage to die, unless the sub has sailed around the island in anticipation of your BB, it won't catch up to you.

On Sybuan(SP) Sea you have so many freaking DDs, if you get sunk by a submarine then you should turn off the power of your box RIGHT NOW. Let's say it surprises you (if this happens you're an idiot) and gets its first wave of torps into you. Have a team mate (Most likely the cruiser teammate) take control of a DD and just play chicken with it. If it even goes to depth three it's screwed and if it breaks off it will never catch back up to the fleet.

On top of this, those two maps have plenty of shoreline and shallows to use against the SS. Just sail close to the shore and the sub will either have to break off or surface. If it decided to trail closely in the deeper section, the player just has to wait until he surfaces.

No matter how you slice it, SS on BB is fail. Gun vs gun is the best way, period.

Listen, just because you like long, hard tubes full of seamen does not make them the best unit in the game to take down battleships.



Whoa. How arrogant *** can you be?
Fact is that the most efective way of taking down the BB is torbedos and that's it. You can add Destroyers and planes and carryers to defend your case of ewerybody else is stupid but your arrogant quantum singularity but it won't make any difference.
You have turned this guys message of asking help in destroying a Bettleship in to depate about how do you destroy an army. Why? Because you needed to act like allknowing quantum singularity.
Ignoring you and answering the guestion is that the torpedos are the most efective and easyest way of taking down a BB. That's because when the other side has an army  of destroyers and Cruisers with plane escort the air attack with torpedos is the least dangerous and if failed least fatal way of attacking against BB.
Also there are other BB:s than just the biggest monsters like Yamato.
When attacking with planes the best way is to attack from the rear or from the front because there will be the smalles AA cover. Usually the front attack is the best way to get your torpedos to hit.
It is also effective to attack from multiple angles to get most torpedos to hit. In a crosfire of torpedos there is no matter how efective Dremora Warlord is in turning the BB:s wheel he will be swimming in no time.
Now using another ships guns is effective if you have another BB at your disposal but often stupid because you ship will get damage too and when ever possible you should always try to destroy your enemy with minimalistic casualties on your side.
For this the planes and subs are most efective ways to kill anything.
Also for the destroyers and Cruisers you should always use divebombers.
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   02-16-2009, 8:41 PM
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I really honestly don't care what you think about me or my ideas. You telling me how to play this game is like me telling Tiger Woods how to play golf, and I've only ever played golf once.

I work until Friday, but how about a game this weekend? I'll be happy to see how 'effective' your ideas are.

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   02-18-2009, 1:55 PM
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quantum singularity


Wow I guess someone got a thesaurus for christmas!

Fact is the quickest, and best way to kill a BB is with another BB.

Fact.


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   02-24-2009, 11:38 PM
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Everybody is right, but the vets are right guys. To kill a BB, use a BB. Simple. Like I said in my last post JUST SHOOT IT!!

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   05-03-2009, 4:17 PM
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 Kellysm wrote:
This thread shows why I stopped playing this game.

Elitist crap like this. To think I was actually thinking about picking this up again.


Got to agree, and they don't even manage to see it themselves. Somewhat sad when you play tough on a forum.

Maybe I'll play some SP for kicks, but even the idea of having to listen to people like this on live is enough to put me off going online.

Best bet on a BB? Depends on alot of things really, mostly what you have handy. Personally I used to engage with a battleship while a friend went in heavy on torpedoes or bombs. Sometimes for the rudder so I could out avoid his broadside, sometimes not.

Giving ideal scenarios isn't very realistic as the opponent will do his best to counteract what you're trying to do, and making yourself god who fire perfectly, manage damage control, dodge torpedoes which aren't coming from the same side as the ship(s) you're engaging doesn't really help make it more feasible either.

About the torpedo thing though, they are right. Unless you're able to get alot of them to hit in one go they're really not worth the effort.
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   05-05-2009, 10:14 AM
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There is more than one way to skin a cat. Here is some ways ive learned in my experience: a. Another BB that is of the same strength or greater strength against a injured BB b. If you can bomb a BB with dive bombers, it will wear down its armor. You think its not hurting the BB, but, it is wearing down its armor, and makes it much more easier to sink the BB with another BB. c. If you can get enough on it, torps can take down a BB pretty quickly, or, at least weaken it a substantial amount.
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   05-05-2009, 10:16 AM
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 Dremora Warlord wrote:
I really honestly don't care what you think about me or my ideas. You telling me how to play this game is like me telling Tiger Woods how to play golf, and I've only ever played golf once.

I work until Friday, but how about a game this weekend? I'll be happy to see how 'effective' your ideas are.
So Tiger, humility isn't your forte is it? The difference between you and Tiger is that Tiger is a conceited *** who thinks he has arrived.
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   05-09-2009, 10:32 PM
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Damn this thread is getting out of hand lol. i'm not going to agree with anyone here for fear of starting up an argument, but i will say that a way to cause damage to (but not destroy) a battleship quickly is using plenty of bombers, and it is possible to do a large amount of damage if u have the bombers controlled by human players (at least more than one human airforce player). With a friend we both sent in 2 squadrons of bombers at a battleship and approached directly from the front. The battleship had very little aa fire on us with only an escort destroyer providing a fair amount of AA fire on us. The battleship was too busy in a long range battle to turn the ship and we were able to hit the battleship with nearly the whole payloads of our 2/3 human controlled bombers down the length of the ship front front to back, plus the rest of the less effective bombing runs from the AI controlled bombers this was enough damage for our teammate ships to finish her off fairly easily. Though i would hardly recommend that approach, it is certainly exciting to try if your feeling adventurous :P
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   05-27-2009, 3:37 PM
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Well, when me and my mates play we usually knock out the artillery of the BB via dive bombs.  Then, we launch one squadron of torpedo planes to cripple the BB's rudder before moving in with our BB or our CA and CL.

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   05-28-2009, 3:06 AM
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Easiest way i found is to launch 3 squadrons of torpedo planes at her as well as sending at least two escorts to your destroyer or battleship . Make sure you hit her from at least 2 different positions as the Ai at least seems to concentrate fire mostly on the ship closest to them than an all out attack on all of your units attacking her.

I sunk the battleship in less than a couple of minutes this way.

Make sure you concentrate on knocking the engines out first though so she is dead in the water then hit the magazine which severely damages it making the job easier.


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   07-02-2009, 5:30 PM
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torpedoes are only really effective if someone has forgotten to set Damage Control to water. on sibuyan sea my team dropped out leaving me to fight the Americans all on my own. I came VERY close- the whole other team were like 'MAN you were awesome' why did I lose? I was distracted when my team mate dropped so I didn't remember to set damage control on the Musashi. a sub managed to do enough damage before I realised to cost me the match.
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   07-05-2009, 5:54 PM
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But who forgets to set that. Guys Demora is right. To kill a BB use a BB, Not a plane or anything like that. God, Why is this thread even still going?

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