MASTER SHAKE oz wrote:

I go out of my way to rez those on my friends list. But avoid rezzing camping elves.

In relation to the above suggestion, I gave it a try today. After I had rezzed I unmapped my tech, and was able to cast a tree or teleport. This is a big help, as I can rez, put up a tree, and then stay there and try to survive.

Can't believe I had not worked that one out before. Probably because I am a 'smartlink noob'.    :)

it's called NOOB-LINK you noob

cheers

 MASTER SHAKE oz wrote:

I go out of my way to rez those on my friends list. But avoid rezzing camping elves.

I'm the same way. I'll dive into a fire fight to rez someone I know. If there's a lame camper sitting there trying to snipe or just being a moron I'll tell them in the mic that I'm not rezzing them. Sometimes I'll make a point of going all the way to thier body and passing by it. It's even funnier if I can take thier sniper rifle.

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It's even better if you can rez the person next to them, and just miss their body.

it's even better yet when there is NO body near them and you rez without rezzing them, man do they get pi$$ed then...

...and if you throw in a T-bag on top of it hehe...

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LOL.  This guy on Maelstrom kept calling me "h0rny" and said I better rez or he'd team kill me.

I gusted his body off the map and rezzed him at the same time.  He was furious to be rezzed and die a second later.  The man kept his word and chased me down attempting to team kill me.

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 HoRNS456 wrote:

LOL.  This guy on Maelstrom kept calling me "h0rny" and said I better rez or he'd team kill me.

I gusted his body off the map and rezzed him at the same time.  He was furious to be rezzed and die a second later.  The man kept his word and chased me down attempting to team kill me.

I love the trolls that try and team kill lol.

When they simply just fail at catching me.

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 HoRNS456 wrote:

LOL.  This guy on Maelstrom kept calling me "h0rny" and said I better rez or he'd team kill me.

I gusted his body off the map and rezzed him at the same time.  He was furious to be rezzed and die a second later.  The man kept his word and chased me down attempting to team kill me.

NOW REALLY the bigger question is, did you get credit for a rez or deduction for friendly fire?  OR maybe both?

LOL, that was funny anyway...

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It annoys me when people complain about their rezzer dying. The way I see it is at least defend your dead body. I'd rather be bleeding out by a tree than watching my body get Tbagged & cleared.

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Buy rez or be kicked out of any matchs you come in contact with me in.

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 DarkRenji wrote:

Buy rez or be kicked out of any matchs you come in contact with me in.

That count for trolls too? Hopefully not, I usually give them a break unless the match goes on for a long time or we really need more rezzing. Sometimes you have to go with the flow of the match, at least imo.

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 UnyoBro wrote:

 DarkRenji wrote:

Buy rez or be kicked out of any matchs you come in contact with me in.

That count for trolls too? Hopefully not, I usually give them a break unless the match goes on for a long time or we really need more rezzing. Sometimes you have to go with the flow of the match, at least imo.

Nah trolls dont really count, I mean I would like for them to have it before the end of the game, but if they dont its cool.
Im mainly talking about the Elfs that refuse to buy it and such.

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As a human I buy rez 2nd or 3rd round depending on if it is a game of Attrition. 

For those elves that don't want to buy rez especially in Attrition I just refuse to rez them.

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 TheGrimMerc wrote:

It annoys me when people complain about their rezzer dying. The way I see it is at least defend your dead body. I'd rather be bleeding out by a tree than watching my body get Tbagged & cleared.

The two should always stay together. Defend your Rezzer, protect their back,
watch their front but above all else keep them alive. Even if you die they can go
Rez. someone else.

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 StormBringer777 wrote:

 TheGrimMerc wrote:

It annoys me when people complain about their rezzer dying. The way I see it is at least defend your dead body. I'd rather be bleeding out by a tree than watching my body get Tbagged & cleared.

The two should always stay together. Defend your Rezzer, protect their back,
watch their front but above all else keep them alive. Even if you die they can go
Rez. someone else.

I wish more people would do that. It always amazes when I rez two or three people and no one tries to keep me alive. Most the time their more worried about where their weapons are then trying to keep their rezzer alive. I always try to kill the guy chasing my rezzer first, then go back for my weapons.

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Just last week I was playing in a game, and the guys I was playing with seemed like fairly team oriented people, so I was enjoying the games we were playing.
UNTIL, it came a few times to pass that I was last man standing, and the entire opposing team was standing over my dead teammates bodies, so I decided to pull a kamikaze-rez as I figured I'm not good enough to take out an entire team by myself, so I figured even with a small chance if that, rezzing as many team mates as possible even if I were to get gakked right away was still the smart thing to do.
The first time, not a big deal, I didn't last but a few seconds, but there were two or three of my temates left (bleeding out) to take on the other team, so for a short time it was 3 on 5 or something like that, much better odds in my book.  Well the guys weren't too happy when I died so quickly, but didn't complain too much.
A few rounds later the same thing exactly happened again, the guys were much angrier with me that time.
Then one or two of them told me I sucked big time and to not bother rezzing them anymore.
The one guy was quite vocal about it too.
Fine, well I figured scr3w them at this point and just played, and rezzed those who didn't complain.

Ultimately the funny thing is it was my rezzing that caused us to win several of the games we played.

And for the record, I'd rather see someone rez someone, even if there is little chance of success, it's better than just laying there dead on the ground watching the team have even less of a chance without being rezzed, PLUS that means I get to play more, even if it is only to die immediately again.

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 MASTER SHAKE oz wrote:

It's even better if you can rez the person next to them, and just miss their body.

You know it's kind of fun to do that.  The other day it was the fifth or so round... and there was a dwarf that hadn't bought rez or tree in the whole entire previous game or in this game to that point.... so I had all the evidence I needed that this dwarf..... just. was. not. a. TEAM. player!  Lo and behold I run up on him bleeding out by a tree.  I stand there long enough to wait for the treehe was by to die (because I KNOW he doesn't have one of his own) and then cast rez just out of his reach.  He starts running for it so I wired backwards.... TWICE.  I watched him bleed to death and THEN planted a tree in the spot he died in. 

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 ICptJackSparrow wrote:

Just last week I was playing in a game, and the guys I was playing with seemed like fairly team oriented people, so I was enjoying the games we were playing.
UNTIL, it came a few times to pass that I was last man standing, and the entire opposing team was standing over my dead teammates bodies, so I decided to pull a kamikaze-rez as I figured I'm not good enough to take out an entire team by myself, so I figured even with a small chance if that, rezzing as many team mates as possible even if I were to get gakked right away was still the smart thing to do.
The first time, not a big deal, I didn't last but a few seconds, but there were two or three of my temates left (bleeding out) to take on the other team, so for a short time it was 3 on 5 or something like that, much better odds in my book.  Well the guys weren't too happy when I died so quickly, but didn't complain too much.
A few rounds later the same thing exactly happened again, the guys were much angrier with me that time.
Then one or two of them told me I sucked big time and to not bother rezzing them anymore.
The one guy was quite vocal about it too.
Fine, well I figured scr3w them at this point and just played, and rezzed those who didn't complain.

Ultimately the funny thing is it was my rezzing that caused us to win several of the games we played.

And for the record, I'd rather see someone rez someone, even if there is little chance of success, it's better than just laying there dead on the ground watching the team have even less of a chance without being rezzed, PLUS that means I get to play more, even if it is only to die immediately again.

Some people are just ungrateful. Like I said before I'd much rather be bleeding out by a tree than watching me get tbagged &  cleared. I've won plenty of matches bleeding out.

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QFT, well except for the winning plenty of matches part

I've been rezzed and re-died within seconds because my rezzer died, but I don't care about that, I got to play some more, THAT is all I care about.

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 UnyoBro wrote:

Sorry but I don't care if you have 50 kills as an elf, if you don't buy rez you fail. If I saw you throwing anti magics at my team I'd TK you and call a vote. I'd repeat that until you got kicked or left.

You present yourself to be a team player, but apparently you TK for stupid reasons, and call votes on ppl who dont play the way you like. Actually you sound like an ignorant dbag, who isnt very fun to play with.

There are multiple builds in SR, and rez isnt needed in every single one. As a Troll? F that, you have 3 pips left for harden, and if you tech wired or SL, ur done. I would never buy rez as a troll, its a stupid waste of 2000 dollars.

As a human, still, no. It locks too much essence and you can do anything.

And even as an elf, it depends on the map, and i always check the team page and see what other ppl have. If 2 ppl bought rez, ill buy gust. I get more kills, and that benefits my team more.

Rez isnt a required buy. I can buy whatever I want, and if your going to TK me because you dont like it, then your just a douchebag.

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The 2-piece is a cheap move? I think it takes practice and skill to pull it off.

 cL I Optics wrote:

 UnyoBro wrote:

Sorry but I don't care if you have 50 kills as an elf, if you don't buy rez you fail. If I saw you throwing anti magics at my team I'd TK you and call a vote. I'd repeat that until you got kicked or left.

You present yourself to be a team player, but apparently you TK for stupid reasons, and call votes on ppl who dont play the way you like. Actually you sound like an ignorant dbag, who isnt very fun to play with.

There are multiple builds in SR, and rez isnt needed in every single one. As a Troll? F that, you have 3 pips left for harden, and if you tech wired or SL, ur done. I would never buy rez as a troll, its a stupid waste of 2000 dollars.

As a human, still, no. It locks too much essence and you can do anything.

And even as an elf, it depends on the map, and i always check the team page and see what other ppl have. If 2 ppl bought rez, ill buy gust. I get more kills, and that benefits my team more.

Rez isnt a required buy. I can buy whatever I want, and if your going to TK me because you dont like it, then your just a douchebag.

Well for starters in that part you quoted I said I'd TK for throwing AMs at the team. If you don't agree with that then you're the douchebag.
I won't TK for selfish people not buying rez but I sure as hell won't rez you if you refuse to buy it. I'll also inform the team about how selfish you are so they won't rez you either. It's my right to be annoyed by this, just like it's your right to be annoying.

I play with quite a few people who buy rez as a troll and they usually lead the team. I guess you just can't handle it, sucks to be you. Also buying it with a human is not crippling. They have no tech penalty and they can afford to lose the essence(unless you rely on magic too much).
I buy it with every build partly because I know it's the most important skill in the game and partly because I can still do fine with someone rezzed. Maybe if you tried it sometime you'd see it's not as impossible as you claim.

Btw you don't have to like me, I'm not hurting for friends. You do your thing and I'll do mine.

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Trolls dont need rez to lead the team. They have 3 times the amount of health than any race in the game, and can do just fine with a mingun and a katana/shotty.

Rez with a human is crippiling, you can teleport once every 3 seconds; you cant get away.

Being able to kill somebody in a 1 v 1 fight is the most important skill in this game, magic and tech that allow you to win, and kill ppl take precendence over rez, thats why it should be a late round buy.

Your a tool if you wont rez somebody because they dont play how you want them to play.

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 Deathb1ow wrote:

The 2-piece is a cheap move? I think it takes practice and skill to pull it off.

Trolls dont need rez to lead the team.
Well yeah, I never said they NEEDED it, I just said it's very easy for them to rez and do well. I understand that you don't have the skills for that but some people do. Deal with it.

can do just fine with a mingun and a katana/shotty.
Duh? I'd hope a troll can do fine with one of the most basic set ups. If they also rez people they'll have a lot more money to buy other stuff they might want. Funny how that works out huh? This game rewards team players and punishes selfish ones.


Rez with a human is crippiling, you can teleport once every 3 seconds; you cant get away.
Well there's your problem, you're too worried about getting away. If you rez someone and stay with them you wouldn't need to run. If they die you'll get back your essence and be able to rez someone else.

Being able to kill somebody in a 1 v 1 fight is the most important skill in this game
Not true at all. How often do you end up fighting someone 1v1? In my experience fights usually end up with multiple people. You might have a different experience since you sound like a selfish lone wolf type. If you tried playing this game the way it's intended(as a team) you might understand.


magic and tech that allow you to win, and kill ppl take precendence over rez, thats why it should be a late round buy.
Garbage. I really hope you're never on my team.
I'm sure when you die in the early rounds you want to be rezzed. It sucks that someone else has to carry the burden for players like you. Rez is more important that whatever skill/magic you rely on to run away.


Your a tool if you wont rez somebody because they dont play how you want them to play.
Uh no, I won't rez people who refuse to buy rez. No one says I have to rez you right? If you act selfish then I'll act selfish right back. Just face it, you're not a team player. Not to brag but the people I know love to play with me because they know I'll be there to back them up, not off somewhere trying to pwn with my leet tech/magic.

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 cL I Optics wrote:

Rez with a human is crippiling, you can teleport once every 3 seconds; you cant get away.

Crippling? Hardly. Rez is always my first or second buy as a human. There is not one magic you can't cast with someone rezzed. If you're losing it hardly takes up any essence anyway.  I'll rez somebody who has rez before someone who doesn't(as a human or troll). I find it to be a lot more helpful than crippling.

 cL I Optics wrote:

Being able to kill somebody in a 1 v 1 fight is the most important skill in this game, magic and tech that allow you to win, and kill ppl take precendence over rez, thats why it should be a late round buy.

If you had rez that would be a 2vs1 fight. I like those odds a lot better.

I'm in no way saying that everyone needs to buy rez right away. A few people in the begining is all you need. I really don't care if other people don't buy it, don't get me wrong I think it's hands down the most important magic/tech in the game. The way I see it is I choose the play as the team medic role. Not everyone needs to be a medic first round, I play that role cause I know my team needs one(that's the way public matches roll). It's nice to see everyone have rez but I don't ever expect it playing with people at random.

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 UnyoBro wrote:

Trolls dont need rez to lead the team.
Well yeah, I never said they NEEDED it, I just said it's very easy for them to rez and do well. I understand that you don't have the skills for that but some people do. Deal with it.

can do just fine with a mingun and a katana/shotty.
Duh? I'd hope a troll can do fine with one of the most basic set ups. If they also rez people they'll have a lot more money to buy other stuff they might want. Funny how that works out huh? This game rewards team players and punishes selfish ones.


Rez with a human is crippiling, you can teleport once every 3 seconds; you cant get away.
Well there's your problem, you're too worried about getting away. If you rez someone and stay with them you wouldn't need to run. If they die you'll get back your essence and be able to rez someone else.

Being able to kill somebody in a 1 v 1 fight is the most important skill in this game
Not true at all. How often do you end up fighting someone 1v1? In my experience fights usually end up with multiple people. You might have a different experience since you sound like a selfish lone wolf type. If you tried playing this game the way it's intended(as a team) you might understand.


magic and tech that allow you to win, and kill ppl take precendence over rez, thats why it should be a late round buy.
Garbage. I really hope you're never on my team.
I'm sure when you die in the early rounds you want to be rezzed. It sucks that someone else has to carry the burden for players like you. Rez is more important that whatever skill/magic you rely on to run away.


Your a tool if you wont rez somebody because they dont play how you want them to play.
Uh no, I won't rez people who refuse to buy rez. No one says I have to rez you right? If you act selfish then I'll act selfish right back. Just face it, you're not a team player. Not to brag but the people I know love to play with me because they know I'll be there to back them up, not off somewhere trying to pwn with my leet tech/magic.

Who cares if its basic? That troll set up works, and you need essence to make it work. I dont want my magic locked on some pub scrub who will most likely die and not contribute to the team. If I play with ppl that I know will kill people, then I might rez them, but never as a troll

If you have a solid rifle and can beat kids close up, you dont need 2 ppl to kill one person. I understand your not there yet, but you can keep trying. Killing people is the point of the game, so it is the most important skill, So Id rather have a magic that helps me kill people.

I dont usually rez in pubs, and Im still on the top of my team (most of the time). Ill rez if Im playing with friends, or privates. But not much in pubs.

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The 2-piece is a cheap move? I think it takes practice and skill to pull it off.

 cL I Optics wrote:

Trolls dont need rez to lead the team. They have 3 times the amount of health than any race in the game, and can do just fine with a mingun and a katana/shotty.

Rez with a human is crippiling, you can teleport once every 3 seconds; you cant get away.

Being able to kill somebody in a 1 v 1 fight is the most important skill in this game, magic and tech that allow you to win, and kill ppl take precendence over rez, thats why it should be a late round buy.

Your a tool if you wont rez somebody because they dont play how you want them to play.

I guess that makes me a tool too because I REFUSE to rez someone once they've made it clear that they refuse to buy rez.  Noone says rez has to be anyone's first buy.... but a good TEAM player.... in the 5th 6th round when their build is done and they're swimming in cash..... why NOT buy rez?  Noone says you have to be the first responder rezzer.... but it's good to have if it's needed.  This ain't Halo honey.... there are no respawns.  The TEAM as a whole depends upon rez and tree.  Every player..... every race should have both rez and tree before the game ends.

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 Unique UpOn It wrote:

 cL I Optics wrote:

Trolls dont need rez to lead the team. They have 3 times the amount of health than any race in the game, and can do just fine with a mingun and a katana/shotty.

Rez with a human is crippiling, you can teleport once every 3 seconds; you cant get away.

Being able to kill somebody in a 1 v 1 fight is the most important skill in this game, magic and tech that allow you to win, and kill ppl take precendence over rez, thats why it should be a late round buy.

Your a tool if you wont rez somebody because they dont play how you want them to play.

I guess that makes me a tool too because I REFUSE to rez someone once they've made it clear that they refuse to buy rez.  Noone says rez has to be anyone's first buy.... but a good TEAM player.... in the 5th 6th round when their build is done and they're swimming in cash..... why NOT buy rez?  Noone says you have to be the first responder rezzer.... but it's good to have if it's needed.  This ain't Halo honey.... there are no respawns.  The TEAM as a whole depends upon rez and tree.  Every player..... every race should have both rez and tree before the game ends.

When Im swimming in cash I give it away, and I previously stated that I believe rez is a late round round buy for dwarfs and elfs. So I dont buy it, as I dont play those races. If I did I would buy it late. Trolls and Humans dont need it, and I dont expect them to have it.

And why not rez them? Who gives a flying *** if they're selfish, you get money and an extra gun next to you; which you guys believe is oh so important.

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 Deathb1ow wrote:

The 2-piece is a cheap move? I think it takes practice and skill to pull it off.

pub scrub .... kids... I dont usually rez in pubs
So what you're saying is you're an elitist ***, glad we got that out of the way. You should just stick to your uber private games with all your 1337 friends.
Why even play pubs if you have this attitude? Let me guess, you like to look down on the noobs? You must be so fun to play with! I bet you refuse to help new people too since they'll probably just die right?

When Im swimming in cash I give it away
So instead of helping your team you just give away your money? Wow, really just go away and play private games we don't need people like you ruining our games.
Like Unique Up0n It said, you don't have to be the first responder but having the option to rez makes a world of difference.

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 UnyoBro wrote:

pub scrub .... kids... I dont usually rez in pubs
So what you're saying is you're an elitist ***, glad we got that out of the way. You should just stick to your uber private games with all your 1337 friends.
Why even play pubs if you have this attitude? Let me guess, you like to look down on the noobs? You must be so fun to play with! I bet you refuse to help new people too since they'll probably just die right?

When Im swimming in cash I give it away
So instead of helping your team you just give away your money? Wow, really just go away and play private games we don't need people like you ruining our games.
Like Unique Up0n It said, you don't have to be the first responder but having the option to rez makes a world of difference.

Giving away my money doesnt help my team? Lol how do you figure. If somebody needs clicks for tech, magic, guns I give it to them. I think thats enough for my team, and most of the players I play with appreciate I can help them buy whatever they want.

The only reason I play pubs is because I can play 8 v 8 on dig site, power station, malestorm, favela, ect. Private 4 v 4s on lobby, nerve, and pinnacle get old pretty fast. I like having fun with my friends IRL who just started this game and dont know whats going on.

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 Deathb1ow wrote:

The 2-piece is a cheap move? I think it takes practice and skill to pull it off.

 cL I Optics wrote:

 UnyoBro wrote:

pub scrub .... kids... I dont usually rez in pubs
So what you're saying is you're an elitist ***, glad we got that out of the way. You should just stick to your uber private games with all your 1337 friends.
Why even play pubs if you have this attitude? Let me guess, you like to look down on the noobs? You must be so fun to play with! I bet you refuse to help new people too since they'll probably just die right?

When Im swimming in cash I give it away
So instead of helping your team you just give away your money? Wow, really just go away and play private games we don't need people like you ruining our games.
Like Unique Up0n It said, you don't have to be the first responder but having the option to rez makes a world of difference.

Giving away my money doesnt help my team? Lol how do you figure. If somebody needs clicks for tech, magic, guns I give it to them. I think thats enough for my team, and most of the players I play with appreciate I can help them buy whatever they want.

I figure it doesn't help that much because buying rez is so much better. Again, I realize you don't understand this basic concept but it's true.

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