I can live with the smoke update. It just forced me to go back to playing the cover game a bit more like before...

I really, REALLY wish Epic would fix the shotgun shot detection. That's all. It's seriously getting real old to literally out maneuver my opponent, wall bouncing to line up that perfect two-piece or face shot, to have the stupid bullet blast not register when all I see on my screen is their *face*.

And yet, not two seconds later, the opponent faces a direction utterly away from me, fires into nothingness, and I go *squish*.

Hit detection... that's all I want. Is it that much to ask?

 Kris93 wrote:

 Gapper Killer wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

!st match since the title update: I get hosted by a team from the UK 2nd match: I lose and get humped by 2 rank 100's that should have been banned 20 times over again Btw smokes are *** again. Id rather get knocked on my quantum singularity than cringe. Cringing just makes me a 10x easier target. The game was fine after TU3. This is trash. Im going to work now....

None of these were going to get fixed in TU4. The smokes already made you cringe but only at certain times, now their consistent, wether you like them or not you can't legitimately argue that something is better when its not consistent.

there are a lot of inconsistent things in this game (shotgun, headshot hit detection, etc.) but the stun smokes were usually consistent before. they just only stunned u if you were walking or standing still, which was better. you could avoid them 90% of the time. now the stupid things stun you no matter what. the new stun can be inconsistent. Host and bots regain movement ability before most others do.

Host and bots always have that advantage regardless of which smoke it is. The old smokes knocked you down no matter what, now the new ones cringe you no matter what. CSR8MILE said it best - "I don't want to be a turtle, I want to play gears."

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 Gapper Killer wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

!st match since the title update: I get hosted by a team from the UK 2nd match: I lose and get humped by 2 rank 100's that should have been banned 20 times over again Btw smokes are *** again. Id rather get knocked on my quantum singularity than cringe. Cringing just makes me a 10x easier target. The game was fine after TU3. This is trash. Im going to work now....

None of these were going to get fixed in TU4. The smokes already made you cringe but only at certain times, now their consistent, wether you like them or not you can't legitimately argue that something is better when its not consistent.

How bout this. I legitimatly argue that the smokes were better when they were inconsistant. There I did it. Ok enough foolin around. I wouldnt have called them inconsistant b4. I would say that they were easily aviodable. The way they should be. Or like many others have said they should be the way they were in gears one. O heres one for you. My music playlist is better when i put it on shuffle. It excites me not to know whats next. Hence better when inconsistant.

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I also got into a few glitches today concerning the new smoke. A smoke stunned me but heres the good part. I never got unstunned. just stood there for about 5 mins with my hand over my face till someone came and killed me. Ive also seen people slide around while stunned. I managed to some how stick myself with a smoke when trying to throw it around a corner. And i also somehow stuck myself in the shoulder with torque bow when a smoke went off while charging it up.They fix some glitches and add more. Awsome....

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 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

 Gapper Killer wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

!st match since the title update: I get hosted by a team from the UK 2nd match: I lose and get humped by 2 rank 100's that should have been banned 20 times over again Btw smokes are *** again. Id rather get knocked on my quantum singularity than cringe. Cringing just makes me a 10x easier target. The game was fine after TU3. This is trash. Im going to work now....

None of these were going to get fixed in TU4. The smokes already made you cringe but only at certain times, now their consistent, wether you like them or not you can't legitimately argue that something is better when its not consistent.

How bout this. I legitimatly argue that the smokes were better when they were inconsistant. There I did it. Ok enough foolin around. I wouldnt have called them inconsistant b4. I would say that they were easily aviodable. The way they should be. Or like many others have said they should be the way they were in gears one. O heres one for you. My music playlist is better when i put it on shuffle. It excites me not to know whats next. Hence better when inconsistant.

Now I am making fun of you. If a gernade cringes you sometimes (standing still) but not other times (running) that is inconsistent. Everytime someone references gears 1 theres only one right answer, play gears 1 this is gears 2, see the number difference? And your music isn't inconsistent, its random. Your music probably plays one song after another like always, thats consistent. If gernades were sometimes duds then they would be like your music player and be random.

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 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

I also got into a few glitches today concerning the new smoke. A smoke stunned me but heres the good part. I never got unstunned. just stood there for about 5 mins with my hand over my face till someone came and killed me. Ive also seen people slide around while stunned. I managed to some how stick myself with a smoke when trying to throw it around a corner. And i also somehow stuck myself in the shoulder with torque bow when a smoke went off while charging it up.They fix some glitches and add more. Awsome....

Remember how the old smokes were used to get through lasers safely or could put you throw bridges and walls? Yea those were the glitch free smokes you want back Im sure...

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 Gapper Killer wrote:

 DooMsDaYRangeR wrote:

 F4LL3N R34P3R wrote:

 DooMsDaYRangeR wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

!st match since the title update: I get hosted by a team from the UK 2nd match: I lose and get humped by 2 rank 100's that should have been banned 20 times over again Btw smokes are *** again. Id rather get knocked on my quantum singularity than cringe. Cringing just makes me a 10x easier target. The game was fine after TU3. This is trash. Im going to work now....

This game has always been trash.

Then Dont Play It.

I don't. I went on to other games.

Your opinion is comepletely worthless than isn't it? This is a title update 4 thread, you don't have title update 4. High five.

+1

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COD4 - 1000/1000
Resident Evil 5 1000/1000 (Excluding DLC)
Fable 2 1350/1350

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

I also got into a few glitches today concerning the new smoke. A smoke stunned me but heres the good part. I never got unstunned. just stood there for about 5 mins with my hand over my face till someone came and killed me. Ive also seen people slide around while stunned. I managed to some how stick myself with a smoke when trying to throw it around a corner. And i also somehow stuck myself in the shoulder with torque bow when a smoke went off while charging it up.They fix some glitches and add more. Awsome....

This is what I had meant to say in my post, so much BS going on with the new smoke

 Gapper Killer wrote:

 DooMsDaYRangeR wrote:

 F4LL3N R34P3R wrote:

 DooMsDaYRangeR wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

!st match since the title update: I get hosted by a team from the UK 2nd match: I lose and get humped by 2 rank 100's that should have been banned 20 times over again Btw smokes are *** again. Id rather get knocked on my quantum singularity than cringe. Cringing just makes me a 10x easier target. The game was fine after TU3. This is trash. Im going to work now....

This game has always been trash.

Then Dont Play It.

I don't. I went on to other games.

Your opinion is comepletely worthless than isn't it? This is a title update 4 thread, you don't have title update 4. High five.

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I haven't even updated it yet. Did it change it at all?

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 Gapper Killer wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

 Gapper Killer wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

!st match since the title update: I get hosted by a team from the UK 2nd match: I lose and get humped by 2 rank 100's that should have been banned 20 times over again Btw smokes are *** again. Id rather get knocked on my quantum singularity than cringe. Cringing just makes me a 10x easier target. The game was fine after TU3. This is trash. Im going to work now....

None of these were going to get fixed in TU4. The smokes already made you cringe but only at certain times, now their consistent, wether you like them or not you can't legitimately argue that something is better when its not consistent.

How bout this. I legitimatly argue that the smokes were better when they were inconsistant. There I did it. Ok enough foolin around. I wouldnt have called them inconsistant b4. I would say that they were easily aviodable. The way they should be. Or like many others have said they should be the way they were in gears one. O heres one for you. My music playlist is better when i put it on shuffle. It excites me not to know whats next. Hence better when inconsistant.

Now I am making fun of you. If a gernade cringes you sometimes (standing still) but not other times (running) that is inconsistent. Everytime someone references gears 1 theres only one right answer, play gears 1 this is gears 2, see the number difference? And your music isn't inconsistent, its random. Your music probably plays one song after another like always, thats consistent. If gernades were sometimes duds then they would be like your music player and be random.

I would much rather play gears one. But there no achievements left to get in it. SMokes were better when they were inconsistant, random or easily avoidable if you prefer. End of story. And i think more people agree with me than you.

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 Kris93 wrote:

 sDs DeAdSiLeNcE wrote:

 GaloX3 wrote:

   Smokes should just provide smoke. I remember in Gears 1, I would throw smokes at my feet all the time to keep people from sniping, torque bowing me, or getting a lucky boomshot on me. Smokes are not meant to be used the way they are in this game. If people want to stun eachother, they should have added stun grenades. What a no-brainer...but what can we expect from Epic?

Exactly!

yep, you got it, welll ya... exactly!

I remember thinking this to myself one day while playing...

I personally think the update was a success, but I agree with this. I don't see why they need to have everyone spawn with a stun grenade that also acts as a smoke (and I say it that way because the smoke has become more of a secondary effect). They would have been better off just making stun grenades that spawn on the maps. That way, there wouldn't be as much smoke so it would be easier to see the target that you wanted to stun anyway. A lot of times when I plant a smoke behind me so I'll know when someone is coming, I won't know if it actually stunned the person because I can't see him either way.

I actually like the whole cringing thing better than getting knocked to the ground, though. Back before they changed them, I would often get knocked down on a set of stairs and have to wait an extra 10 seconds while my character had a seizure all the way down. And actually, if you think about it, they probably changed it due to all the glitching involved with using a smoke on yourself (ex. using it to get through Security lasers, going into the little furnace thing in River, etc.).

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 LRG IS LEGIT wrote:

Get real this is XBL not the "real" world.

11/10/09
Death Streaks = Socialism

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

 Gapper Killer wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

 Gapper Killer wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

!st match since the title update: I get hosted by a team from the UK 2nd match: I lose and get humped by 2 rank 100's that should have been banned 20 times over again Btw smokes are *** again. Id rather get knocked on my quantum singularity than cringe. Cringing just makes me a 10x easier target. The game was fine after TU3. This is trash. Im going to work now....

None of these were going to get fixed in TU4. The smokes already made you cringe but only at certain times, now their consistent, wether you like them or not you can't legitimately argue that something is better when its not consistent.

How bout this. I legitimatly argue that the smokes were better when they were inconsistant. There I did it. Ok enough foolin around. I wouldnt have called them inconsistant b4. I would say that they were easily aviodable. The way they should be. Or like many others have said they should be the way they were in gears one. O heres one for you. My music playlist is better when i put it on shuffle. It excites me not to know whats next. Hence better when inconsistant.

Now I am making fun of you. If a gernade cringes you sometimes (standing still) but not other times (running) that is inconsistent. Everytime someone references gears 1 theres only one right answer, play gears 1 this is gears 2, see the number difference? And your music isn't inconsistent, its random. Your music probably plays one song after another like always, thats consistent. If gernades were sometimes duds then they would be like your music player and be random.

I would much rather play gears one. But there no achievements left to get in it. SMokes were better when they were inconsistant, random or easily avoidable if you prefer. End of story. And i think more people agree with me than you.

Didn't know this was a popularity contest, So you prefer gears 1 over 2 but you just can't pry yourself off a bad game because your such an achievement junkie? And I thought you were trying to argue that TU4 was bad. Seems like you jump from losing argument to losing argument with little difficulty.

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 capprix wrote:

 DooMsDaYRangeR wrote:

 F4LL3N R34P3R wrote:

 DooMsDaYRangeR wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

!st match since the title update: I get hosted by a team from the UK 2nd match: I lose and get humped by 2 rank 100's that should have been banned 20 times over again Btw smokes are *** again. Id rather get knocked on my quantum singularity than cringe. Cringing just makes me a 10x easier target. The game was fine after TU3. This is trash. Im going to work now....

This game has always been trash.

Then Dont Play It.

I don't. I went on to other games.

Stop trolling

Not trolling at all.

 Gapper Killer wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

 Gapper Killer wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

 Gapper Killer wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

!st match since the title update: I get hosted by a team from the UK 2nd match: I lose and get humped by 2 rank 100's that should have been banned 20 times over again Btw smokes are *** again. Id rather get knocked on my quantum singularity than cringe. Cringing just makes me a 10x easier target. The game was fine after TU3. This is trash. Im going to work now....

None of these were going to get fixed in TU4. The smokes already made you cringe but only at certain times, now their consistent, wether you like them or not you can't legitimately argue that something is better when its not consistent.

How bout this. I legitimatly argue that the smokes were better when they were inconsistant. There I did it. Ok enough foolin around. I wouldnt have called them inconsistant b4. I would say that they were easily aviodable. The way they should be. Or like many others have said they should be the way they were in gears one. O heres one for you. My music playlist is better when i put it on shuffle. It excites me not to know whats next. Hence better when inconsistant.

Now I am making fun of you. If a gernade cringes you sometimes (standing still) but not other times (running) that is inconsistent. Everytime someone references gears 1 theres only one right answer, play gears 1 this is gears 2, see the number difference? And your music isn't inconsistent, its random. Your music probably plays one song after another like always, thats consistent. If gernades were sometimes duds then they would be like your music player and be random.

I would much rather play gears one. But there no achievements left to get in it. SMokes were better when they were inconsistant, random or easily avoidable if you prefer. End of story. And i think more people agree with me than you.

Didn't know this was a popularity contest, So you prefer gears 1 over 2 but you just can't pry yourself off a bad game because your such an achievement junkie? And I thought you were trying to argue that TU4 was bad. Seems like you jump from losing argument to losing argument with little difficulty.

Id like to know how im losing

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 NamikazeSama wrote:

I really, REALLY wish Epic would fix the shotgun shot detection. That's all. It's seriously getting real old to literally out maneuver my opponent, wall bouncing to line up that perfect two-piece or face shot, to have the stupid bullet blast not register when all I see on my screen is their *face*.

Same here, its just stupid now, I lose soooo many kills coz I shoot at there face and by the time it regesters, they're out of the way, just annoying now.

I really REALLY hate what they have done to the Mortar. Other than that, everything is fine.

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 Phyxxius wrote:

 NecroTheNoble wrote:

I'm from the UK, whats your problem?

Epic servers are pretty bad when it comes to playing against people overseas and in Mexico. After playing for 2 hours today, I didn't notice any difference with  TU 4. 

Epic servers? That would be your xbox my friend. Think about it. 10 people all playing out of 1 xbox. and they're in different places on the planet. Duh, the game is gonna suck. if they had servers like halo or cod, this would be the best game ever. but they don't so this game blows.

 NecroTheNoble wrote:

 NamikazeSama wrote:

I really, REALLY wish Epic would fix the shotgun shot detection. That's all. It's seriously getting real old to literally out maneuver my opponent, wall bouncing to line up that perfect two-piece or face shot, to have the stupid bullet blast not register when all I see on my screen is their *face*.

Same here, its just stupid now, I lose soooo many kills coz I shoot at there face and by the time it regesters, they're out of the way, just annoying now.

My #1 problem with this game. Before anyone goes "If you hate the game, then don't play it", I love Gears 2, I just hate how Epic has failed to fix this quite obvious problem.

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 LRG IS LEGIT wrote:

Get real this is XBL not the "real" world.

11/10/09
Death Streaks = Socialism

 x1NFAM0U5x wrote:

 NecroTheNoble wrote:

 NamikazeSama wrote:

I really, REALLY wish Epic would fix the shotgun shot detection. That's all. It's seriously getting real old to literally out maneuver my opponent, wall bouncing to line up that perfect two-piece or face shot, to have the stupid bullet blast not register when all I see on my screen is their *face*.

Same here, its just stupid now, I lose soooo many kills coz I shoot at there face and by the time it regesters, they're out of the way, just annoying now.

My #1 problem with this game. Before anyone goes "If you hate the game, then don't play it", I love Gears 2, I just hate how Epic has failed to fix this quite obvious problem.

LAG!

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 DooMsDaYRangeR wrote:

Did anyone here really think TU4 would do anything at all?

That's why I didn't hold my breath about TU4 fixing anything, because I'd have fallen over dead first!

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Me personally, TU4 didn't do anything.  Games of today are "finished" and then released to the public with 3 or 4 patches to fix what they failed to test thoroughly. Just ship it and fix it later. That's how everything works now.
 
I am just tired of spending $60 on unfinished products. 

 Phyxxius wrote:

Me personally, TU4 didn't do anything.  Games of today are "finished" and then released to the public with 3 or 4 patches to fix what they failed to test thoroughly. Just ship it and fix it later. That's how everything works now.
 
I am just tired of spending $60 on unfinished products. 

QFT

It's a *** disgrace what game developers are able to get away with these days.

 Xx King Mark xX wrote:

 x1NFAM0U5x wrote:

 NecroTheNoble wrote:

 NamikazeSama wrote:

I really, REALLY wish Epic would fix the shotgun shot detection. That's all. It's seriously getting real old to literally out maneuver my opponent, wall bouncing to line up that perfect two-piece or face shot, to have the stupid bullet blast not register when all I see on my screen is their *face*.

Same here, its just stupid now, I lose soooo many kills coz I shoot at there face and by the time it regesters, they're out of the way, just annoying now.

My #1 problem with this game. Before anyone goes "If you hate the game, then don't play it", I love Gears 2, I just hate how Epic has failed to fix this quite obvious problem.

LAG!

#2

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 LRG IS LEGIT wrote:

Get real this is XBL not the "real" world.

11/10/09
Death Streaks = Socialism

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

!st match since the title update: I get hosted by a team from the UK 2nd match: I lose and get humped by 2 rank 100's that should have been banned 20 times over again Btw smokes are *** again. Id rather get knocked on my quantum singularity than cringe. Cringing just makes me a 10x easier target. The game was fine after TU3. This is trash. Im going to work now....

Title update 4 doesn't blow.................YOU blow.  If you see a smoke nade coming at you, EVADE IT.  I bet you're one of those noobs that just runs around in a straight line holding B button and chainsawing like a little noob.  And when you see a nade being hurled towards you, you do nothing to evade it and just continue to hold B button like a noob and get owned.  You're the type of noob that makes Torque Bowing so easy for me.  I thank you, and people like you, for providing me with an easy kill.

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I don't like the changes to the smoke grenades with this update, and I hate what they did to the mortar.  I can deal with both of those, and I was still doing pretty well while I was playing over the weekend, but those changes and some of the new bugs created by the update just make me not want to play Gears 2.  What's up with smokes making you drop your meatshield and cringe?  That's ridiculous.  That didn't even happen with the ragdoll smokes.

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 Johnnyy Blaze wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

!st match since the title update: I get hosted by a team from the UK 2nd match: I lose and get humped by 2 rank 100's that should have been banned 20 times over again Btw smokes are *** again. Id rather get knocked on my quantum singularity than cringe. Cringing just makes me a 10x easier target. The game was fine after TU3. This is trash. Im going to work now....

Title update 4 doesn't blow.................YOU blow.  If you see a smoke nade coming at you, EVADE IT.  I bet you're one of those noobs that just runs around in a straight line holding B button and chainsawing like a little noob.  And when you see a nade being hurled towards you, you do nothing to evade it and just continue to hold B button like a noob and get owned.  You're the type of noob that makes Torque Bowing so easy for me.  I thank you, and people like you, for providing me with an easy kill.

Glad you think you know me. I have a 2.5 kill/death in guardian. and a 2.0 in both execution and annex. Im rank 61 and know for a fact that id *** you. I make hosts quit the game. I carry a golden hammerburst not a noobsaw and the only time I get torqued is if people spawn camp on river. Futher more you cant just simply roll out the way of a smoke 100% of the the time. Anyone whose played the game knows this.

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 GaloX3 wrote:

 Phyxxius wrote:

Me personally, TU4 didn't do anything.  Games of today are "finished" and then released to the public with 3 or 4 patches to fix what they failed to test thoroughly. Just ship it and fix it later. That's how everything works now.
 
I am just tired of spending $60 on unfinished products. 

QFT

It's a *** disgrace what game developers are able to get away with these days.

I'll second this.

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 iiM SO N1NJA wrote:

 GaloX3 wrote:

 Phyxxius wrote:

Me personally, TU4 didn't do anything.  Games of today are "finished" and then released to the public with 3 or 4 patches to fix what they failed to test thoroughly. Just ship it and fix it later. That's how everything works now.
 
I am just tired of spending $60 on unfinished products. 

QFT

It's a *** disgrace what game developers are able to get away with these days.

I'll second this.

I'm on this side too.

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 LRG IS LEGIT wrote:

Get real this is XBL not the "real" world.

11/10/09
Death Streaks = Socialism

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

 Johnnyy Blaze wrote:

 ICoN xLeViAtHaN wrote:

!st match since the title update: I get hosted by a team from the UK 2nd match: I lose and get humped by 2 rank 100's that should have been banned 20 times over again Btw smokes are *** again. Id rather get knocked on my quantum singularity than cringe. Cringing just makes me a 10x easier target. The game was fine after TU3. This is trash. Im going to work now....

Title update 4 doesn't blow.................YOU blow.  If you see a smoke nade coming at you, EVADE IT.  I bet you're one of those noobs that just runs around in a straight line holding B button and chainsawing like a little noob.  And when you see a nade being hurled towards you, you do nothing to evade it and just continue to hold B button like a noob and get owned.  You're the type of noob that makes Torque Bowing so easy for me.  I thank you, and people like you, for providing me with an easy kill.

Glad you think you know me. I have a 2.5 kill/death in guardian. and a 2.0 in both execution and annex. Im rank 61 and know for a fact that id *** you. I make hosts quit the game. I carry a golden hammerburst not a noobsaw and the only time I get torqued is if people spawn camp on river. Futher more you cant just simply roll out the way of a smoke 100% of the the time. Anyone whose played the game knows this.

How do you make hosts quit when you're bridging host? lol