Superman TAS - I don't need some female-to-female  adapter to watch behind my monitor. The official VGA cable has a sound adapter with it and i can put it inside my PC. Also, as i told 1680 x 1050 looks quite bad on my monitor. At it s a quite good monitor. And like i said - things cost a lot more in my country. My monitor was $400. A HDTV is $2000. The average pay is $600 dollars in my country. So... yeah.

And i'm still thinking that it really didn't take them a long time to get 16:10 resolution. But like i said - i'm fine with black bars. They would just the the current resoltuion.. Make it with black bars. And add another resolution. That wouldn't really take long time?

OP I really understand your plight, I do. Nowadays most Movies are filmed at 2:35:1, this means that even on most HDTVs you still get "Bars." It wasn't until I stumbled upon a 36" RCA 16 x 10 HDTV that I was fully able to enjoy Terminator 2. But it wasn't scaled, it simply conformed to the Format. So perhaps an additional format is what would satisfy you better than a completely new resolution? IDK, but I saw no loss in quality when viewing T2.

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 Juustuveeretaja wrote:

Superman TAS - I don't need some female-to-female  adapter to watch behind my monitor. The official VGA cable has a sound adapter with it and i can put it inside my PC. Also, as i told 1680 x 1050 looks quite bad on my monitor. At it s a quite good monitor. And like i said - things cost a lot more in my country. My monitor was $400. A HDTV is $2000. The average pay is $600 dollars in my country. So... yeah.

And i'm still thinking that it really didn't take them a long time to get 16:10 resolution. But like i said - i'm fine with black bars. They would just the the current resoltuion.. Make it with black bars. And add another resolution. That wouldn't really take long time?

As I said - A cheap solution is just that.

I'm SAVING what I can for that $2,000 HDTV while dealing with a cheap substitute - you're not the only one having financial problems.

For the three years folks were wishing for 16:10 support - they had to deal with what they had

You are going to have to deal with 1680x1050 until IF or WHEN 1920x1200 support is released - And as I said, even IF 1920x1200 support is granted, there will be another flaw discovered with color correction, and MS will not be able to help you.

This should be a "temporary solution" at best until you are finally able to afford that HDTV for the best possible experience.

In the end - you get exactly what you pay for - If you pay for the cheaper solution, then you should not be expecting high-end results.

That is exactly how I consider it - and as I said - I can not wait until I am able to afford a nice big screen HDTV myself

The economy is rough right now - almost everyone is affected - you're not the only one. Yet HDTV is still the way to go for the best possible picture

Until you get your "superior picture quality" and/or MS actually grants this 1920x1200 - you're going to have the face the real possibility of providing your own solution - exactly the same deal as before MS started supporting 16:10 monitors

That's the reality of this wish - I'm not saying you can't hope, I'm saying that you should be making plans to get past this temporary solution (HDTV)

It might very well take you a year or two - but it will be very well worth it in the end. I know - I've been wanting an actual HDTV for the past 3 years now instead of using my 24" 16:10 computer monitor.

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He should buy the sharp aquos . 999$ at tigerdirect . ^___^

 Superman TAS wrote:

That does not explain how the original Launch XB360s are able to recieve the same NXE update features as the newer XB360s - unless the chip itself is 4 years old

I would say - that the chip in question is the GPU, which is capable of scaling, "black bars", etc - and it really is a matter of getting the new software to work correctly with the existinig hardware

Linky

See the above link. My memory isn't failing me

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 Superman TAS wrote:

That does not explain how the original Launch XB360s are able to recieve the same NXE update features as the newer XB360s - unless the chip itself is 4 years old

I would say - that the chip in question is the GPU, which is capable of scaling, "black bars", etc - and it really is a matter of getting the new software to work correctly with the existinig hardware

Linky

See the above link. My memory isn't failing me

Exactly as I said - only told differently

What I mean by this - is that there are in fact some people who still have their original Launch Console sans HDMI - and it was able to get the NXE update - meaning the original Launch Console without any hardware modification is capable of 16:10 over VGA support

I know this - because I do still have an original Launch Console (never sent into MS for repair or refurbish) and had no problems upgrading it to NXE - and as I said earlier, 16:10 support came with NXE

That is why I'm convinced that 16:10 support is more about changes to software, than changes to hardware. And encoding software is not always so easy, despite what people may think

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Still 3 things.

1. The HDTV's cost hell of a lot in my country. And people get like so much less payed. I bought my monitor for very much and it was hard to earn that money.

2. I still don't think adding just black bars wouldn't be that hard.

3. That's what i put this under the wishlist. So they would know people want it. Right now i have to stick with the 1680 x 1050 which looks very bad on my monitor. But i'm hoping that soon Microsoft will change it.

Hello.

I've got exactly the same request here.

I own a non Hdmi 360, and I play on VGA on a PC monitor.
My monitor cost about 350 €(yes, I live in Europe. It's more or less 400$ I'd say). It's a 24' LCD monitor. One year old, Samsung. So don't say it's "cheap". You can get an HDTV of the same size for more or less the same price here.

1080P works on my display, still you always get better results on native resolution, that's why i'd love to have 1920*1200 resolution.

The OP is having this problem because he has a  PC Monitor. This has nothing to do with having "cheap" display. And believe me, you'll be surprised if you knew how many people are using Pc displays for HD content.

"Stop complaining and buy an HDTV".

No. I'm a student, and I don't have much room here, that's why I have one display that is used by both my computer and my 360. And trust me, i'm not at all the only one with this situation. And I agree with the OP, 1680*1050 looks awfull on my display too. Monitors are supposed to be used with their native resolution.

So, +1 for the OP.

Superman, They didn't put 16:10 res until know because they had OTHER FUNCTIONNALITIES to dev.
While programming the NXE, I think they chose to add these resolutions. It took three years, not because it was difficult to do, but because they had other businesses to finish. Just for the record, I'll be an engineer at the end of my studies. Trust me, it isn't that hard to code.

I don't understand why you keep on posting here, just to say more or less the same thing on each post: "go buy an HDTV" or "Forget it". Microsoft may-or may not- add this funtionality. One thing's sure though : If nobody asks for it, we won't get it. That's why we're posting here.

Do you have anything "personal" against having that resolution? While reading the thread, I just go this feeling. Just my imagination, I suppose... I know you feel this is a "temp" solution, but trust me, it isn't.

many game developpers use PC displays connected to an XeDK.

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I don't understand, are you implying that Monitors look awful at 1080p resolution, because I beg to differ? Both TVs and Monitors support 1080p so what's the problem? Microsoft recognized the fact that people use Monitors by supporting 16:10 format. If you're using a Monitor that is not functionally compatible with the 360 then who's fault is that? You're basically asking Microsoft to correct a mistake you made. The 360 is a Family Gaming Console not a Gaming rig, it's meant to be played or used in front of the TV with Friends and Family. This isn't a Flame but your asking to change the design functionality of the 360.

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 jccochez wrote:

Hello.

I've got exactly the same request here.

I own a non Hdmi 360, and I play on VGA on a PC monitor.
My monitor cost about 350 €(yes, I live in Europe. It's more or less 400$ I'd say). It's a 24' LCD monitor. One year old, Samsung. So don't say it's "cheap". You can get an HDTV of the same size for more or less the same price here.

1080P works on my display, still you always get better results on native resolution, that's why i'd love to have 1920*1200 resolution.

The OP is having this problem because he has a  PC Monitor. This has nothing to do with having "cheap" display. And believe me, you'll be surprised if you knew how many people are using Pc displays for HD content.

"Stop complaining and buy an HDTV".

No. I'm a student, and I don't have much room here, that's why I have one display that is used by both my computer and my 360. And trust me, i'm not at all the only one with this situation. And I agree with the OP, 1680*1050 looks awfull on my display too. Monitors are supposed to be used with their native resolution.

So, +1 for the OP.

Superman, They didn't put 16:10 res until know because they had OTHER FUNCTIONNALITIES to dev.
While programming the NXE, I think they chose to add these resolutions. It took three years, not because it was difficult to do, but because they had other businesses to finish. Just for the record, I'll be an engineer at the end of my studies. Trust me, it isn't that hard to code.

I don't understand why you keep on posting here, just to say more or less the same thing on each post: "go buy an HDTV" or "Forget it". Microsoft may-or may not- add this funtionality. One thing's sure though : If nobody asks for it, we won't get it. That's why we're posting here.

Do you have anything "personal" against having that resolution? While reading the thread, I just go this feeling. Just my imagination, I suppose... I know you feel this is a "temp" solution, but trust me, it isn't.

many game developpers use PC displays connected to an XeDK.

My Gateway 24" 16:10 Multi-input Computer Monitor was $500 - bought it about a year & a half ago

It's still considered to be a "cheap solution" to an actual HDTV

It sounds to me - you guys are only looking in the local store, when some of the best prices are online

And for the record - I'm enjoying pure 1080p over HDMI - and it's still not good enough because of exactly what I said earlier - I found other things (namely contrast) that do remind me that it is a cheap temporary solution until I can afford the right HDTV

See - I did full research into the computer monitor before I purchased it -

http://support.gateway.com/s/MONITOR/7010820R/7010820Rsp3.shtml

Mostly good - except for the contrast ratio. And as I've said already - times are rough over here in America too - I had to save up this monitor. I'm showing you, that you can not use finances as a logical reason on why additional features should be added - and I've shown you that the "standard" output of the XB360 is 720p

I'm going to guess that you're not even going to consider getting a different monitor, and hope that this wish fixes your display problem - I'm trying to tell you it's not. You're setting yourself up for disappointment if it doesn't work - and you won't be able to blame MS.

If it's playable, then it can be dealt with until the permanent solution is purchased

If you tell yourself "I can't because of my country's finance", then you're not taking control over your spending. You already got a $400 monitor, however long it took you to save up for that. So it would only take 3 to 4 times longer to save up for a decent minimum HDTV.

This is very feasible, and thousands (if not millions) of underpaid people are doing this - right now

All I see - is that you want someone (MS) else to fix your problem (1920x1200) to your satisfaction (no guarantees on that).

Nothing personal - and I have nothing against either of you personally. I'm simply explaining why this wish might not happen (after all - I do not work for MS) and my message is simple - do not let other people take control over your spending and tell you what products you can't buy - Save the money, search the internet for good deals, consider USED HDTVs if they are in working order - there's more than one way to get what you want without having to wish for something that may not even work as you expected it be.

If you still want to say "there's nothing more I can do about it" - sorry - that's just telling me & other folks who work just as hard for our money as you do for yours that you're not open to all available possible options - and you're only locked into a single option - which I'm trying to tell you "you are not"

Whatever you choose - Best of luck

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jccochez - I have the same thing. But my monitor doesn't even support 1080p for 360 for some reason. So it's even worse.

o0 Signal 20 0o - For some reason my monitor doesn't support 1080p for 360 over VGA. I don't know why.  And what mistake did i make? Not buying a HDTV because i don't have the room and the money? If i have something that should support 1080p but for 360 only supports 1920 x 1200 then why wouldn't they add that? And 360 is a Family Gaming Console - no it is not. It can be if you want. But it isn't only a Family Gaming Console. Am i supposed to play Gears of War with my family? Yeah, i don't think so. And there are so many games that only let one person play behind the tv at once. So how am i supposed to play with friends? Basically - stop talking stupid.

Superman TAS - I bought my monitor before my 360. I collected my money for the monitor over a year. So i'm going to wait for my HDTV for 4 years? And like i said - Not everyone has the room!!!!!! A 1920 x 1200 monitor is a great solution. Microsoft just needs to see that and support it. If they would just add 1920 x 1200, then what could go wrong? How couldn't there be any guarantees? You just don't seem to understand.

I can clearly see that now a lot of people visit these forums, but i know many people who have the same problem. And i can imagine how many people there are more since 1920 x 1200 is one of the most popular resolutions and like i said - HDTV isn't a solution for everyone.

I've been wanting HDTV for several years now - still waiting. Good things come to those who wait

And as far as room? There are 24 - 30" 1080p HDTVs that will take up just as much room or just a little bit more and still deliver the high-performance

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2102640411%20138982080%20138901997&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&Order=RATING

Here you go - 20" - 29" 1080p 16:9 HDTVs - All under the price of $325. Not as great as a Big Screen HDTV - but it's more of a permanent solution than a 16:10 computer monitor designed for computer outputs

I want the Big Screen eventually - So I'm willing to wait. However - there are indeed affordable permanent solutions for you when you start looking outside of your country

But if you're going to keep limiting your options to local only and not take advantage of Internet Shopping - then you're absolutely right - HDTV is not a solution for everyone, because they are not taking advantage of what's available worldwide.

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Sometimes I really hate the Web; no matter what you type you can always sound rude. What I simply meant was that you should have double checked to make sure it supported 1080p. So in that regard it was a personal mistake. I also have a lot of kids Games that I can play with my daughter and some Party Games. @Superman TAS: Have you considered using a Set-up Disc for your Monitor and adjusting the Monitor controls rather than the GPU? They're pretty cheap now about $20. If you can't then I can PM you with a link to an alternative one...

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 o0 Signal 20 0o wrote:

Sometimes I really hate the Web; no matter what you type you can always sound rude. What I simply meant was that you should have double checked to make sure it supported 1080p. So in that regard it was a personal mistake. I also have a lot of kids Games that I can play with my daughter and some Party Games. @Superman TAS: Have you considered using a Set-up Disc for your Monitor and adjusting the Monitor controls rather than the GPU? They're pretty cheap now about $20. If you can't then I can PM you with a link to an alternative one...

Yea - I used the Screen Calibration tool that came with Halo 3 Essentials (Legendary Edition with Helmet) - That's when I found out that that not all HDTV controls are available for computer monitors, even if they have Multi-Inputs like HDMI, Component, Composite, Super-Video.

Which is why I say that it's only a temporary solution - I may even seriously consider buying one of the small HDTVs I linked to and get a Big Screen later on - I would most likely upgrade from my current 24" to say a 26" - I'll have to see.

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My monitor has HDMI, but i'm not going to buy a new 360 for that, because my current one doesn't support one. A 360 costs much more in my country than in USA or something. So why would i get another one and have 2?

Also - i'm not going to get a TV for a monitor and used it as a monitor. And am i going to throw my current expensive monitor out because i'm going to but a tv instead of it? Like i said - i have no room.

And yes - everything is cheaper outside of my country. But no one sends things here where i live. So there's no point. If i'd live in USA i would just return my 360 or something or sell it on craigslist and get a new one for 200$, but there isn't an option like that here.

 Juustuveeretaja wrote:

My monitor has HDMI, but i'm not going to buy a new 360 for that, because my current one doesn't support one. A 360 costs much more in my country than in USA or something. So why would i get another one and have 2?

Also - i'm not going to get a TV for a monitor and used it as a monitor. And am i going to throw my current expensive monitor out because i'm going to but a tv instead of it? Like i said - i have no room.

And yes - everything is cheaper outside of my country. But no one sends things here where i live. So there's no point. If i'd live in USA i would just return my 360 or something or sell it on craigslist and get a new one for 200$, but there isn't an option like that here.

So don't throw out your current computer monitor - UPGRADE to a DUAL Monitor (Can either be side-by-side, or moved along another wall with cable extenders

All video cards made in the last 3-4 years are dual capable - all that is required is a 2nd monitor, which is exactly what you would be doing.

What country are you in that does not get shipments from out of country? That does not make sense.

Sorry - but I'm not buying the whole "there is no other option" thing - there's almost always another option, it just needs to be sought out

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I live in Estonia. And there is no shipping to it. I don't know any stores that ship their hardware here. It's mostly about the weight and prolly toll. Not sure. But i ship games here. And how would i ship a monitor back anyway if it's broken? Maybe you guys can ship stuff back where you live, but not here.

Also - the monitor choice is limited. A lot of monitors don't have 1:1 - there is no choice if you want a new monitor. And like i said - even two monitors can take a lot of room. Specially if one needs to be a HDTV...

Everything would be fine if Microsoft just added 1920 x 1200 with black bars. I think my monitor supports 1:1 for HDMI, but have an older Xbox 360.

 Juustuveeretaja wrote:

I live in Estonia. And there is no shipping to it. I don't know any stores that ship their hardware here. It's mostly about the weight and prolly toll. Not sure. But i ship games here. And how would i ship a monitor back anyway if it's broken? Maybe you guys can ship stuff back where you live, but not here.

Also - the monitor choice is limited. A lot of monitors don't have 1:1 - there is no choice if you want a new monitor. And like i said - even two monitors can take a lot of room. Specially if one needs to be a HDTV...

Everything would be fine if Microsoft just added 1920 x 1200 with black bars. I think my monitor supports 1:1 for HDMI, but have an older Xbox 360.

You haven't been very clear on your monitor either - what is its make & model? Because the 1:1 support on my Gateway monitor covers all inputs (DVI, VGA, Component, Composite) and not just HDMI

I do remember there being a problem with 720p over VGA from any device output on the previous Gateway Monitor where the image was completely unviewable, but the 1080p setting did work fine over VGA

What happens if you go through the different resolution settings on your computer?

As far as your country - I read up on it. My advice is to look at Latvia, Lithuania & Sweden Stores, since the import tax for Estonia seems to be the lowest at 5.7, 6.4% & 9% respectively - or wait intil 2010 when the flat income tax is reduced to 18%, at least then you'll have a little bit more money

But just as I am trying to learn more about this - you should try to learn more about your other options through research - you never know until you do your own research. Who knows - maybe you can get it shipped to a neighboring country within driving distance, and then carry it back into your country? Just tossing out some ideas. But thinking "outside of the box" is required.

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I have a BenQ V2400W.

And i'm pretty sure that Latvia and similiar also don't really have anything good to sell like my country not even talking about sending it over here. But the main point is still sending it back.

And everything is fine with my PC. I can put 1:1, same aspect ratio and one that totally stretches it out. And my monitor is thru DVI. I think it has something to do with The 360. I don't think anything would change if i would change it up with a adapter.

I was wondering, does Microsoft look at these topics here? Would be great if they would comment on how hard it would be just do create a 1920 x 1200 resolution by just adding black bars to 1080p.

 Juustuveeretaja wrote:

I have a BenQ V2400W.

And i'm pretty sure that Latvia and similiar also don't really have anything good to sell like my country not even talking about sending it over here. But the main point is still sending it back.

And everything is fine with my PC. I can put 1:1, same aspect ratio and one that totally stretches it out. And my monitor is thru DVI. I think it has something to do with The 360. I don't think anything would change if i would change it up with a adapter.

It's not the 360 - it's the way the monitor handles 720p over VGA

If you set your computer to 720p and connect it over VGA, it will most likely show the same problem you think is emanating from the XB360

I know this first hand because I tested it when shopping for my first HD Monitor (Gateway 22" that had all connections except for HDMI)

I know you're tired of hearing this because of your country is expensive, but HDMI does make a very big difference. My advice would be to get the Arcade version XB360 before they are completely sold out and discontinued. At the very least, you'll have a backup XB360 for "just in case"

Yes - I know it involves spending more money, but not nearly as much as getting a new display

I'm saying this - because you have to be prepared, just in case MS does not fulfill this wish, or it takes them a very long time. I'd say if this wish is not part of the '09 Fall Update which includes Facebook & Twitter, then it's not going to happen for a long while. If this does happen (and I suspect it's going to), then you have to be prepared to either accept what you have now and hope that it makes it's way into the next scheduled update in 6 or 12 months, or take matters into your own hands and come up with your own solution

Sorry to say - but it does ultimately comes down to one of those two things

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Im surprised this is still being talked about . The topic.

Superman TAS - Yeah. It does look like new 360 is solution for now. But if Microsoft would just update this little thing it wouldn't need to be. As the returning a 360 incase of rrod is pretty bad here (they only give 1 year of warranty). They i guess i need to buy a new 360 when my current one rrod's.

Still - Microsoft should definetly add 1920 x 1200 - even with black bars.

ML KioncWarlord - What do you mean? Should this thread just be forgotten. This thread is going to excist until the update or Microsoft comments on this issue.

 Juustuveeretaja wrote:

Superman TAS - Yeah. It does look like new 360 is solution for now. But if Microsoft would just update this little thing it wouldn't need to be. As the returning a 360 incase of rrod is pretty bad here (they only give 1 year of warranty). They i guess i need to buy a new 360 when my current one rrod's.

Still - Microsoft should definetly add 1920 x 1200 - even with black bars.

ML KioncWarlord - What do you mean? Should this thread just be forgotten. This thread is going to excist until the update or Microsoft comments on this issue.

I really dont thinlk Microsoft will fix this issue .

 Superman TAS wrote:

 ML KioncWarlord wrote:

Too bad not all games are 1080p. -____-

Agreed - Most of the XB360 games are rendered in 720p, which are upscaled to 1080p

I've been using a 1:1 Ratio computer monitor for several years, long before MS finally released 16:10 support

IMO - Folks should be happy & grateful that they even got 16:10 support - Because MS certainly didn't have to.

This is looking like "give folks a cookie, they're gonna want milk to go with it". IMO - just be happy with the cookie

Just wondering, which games are rendered in 1080p? 

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Just wondering, which games are rendered in 1080p? 

Bear in mind - there are currently 1,188 Game Titles for the XB360 - this is NOT including the Original XB Game Discs, but may include Original XB On-Demand

http://www.makeyougohmm.com/xbox360-1080p-games/

Native 1080p games available for the Xbox 360 include the following 6 titles:

new![native 1080p] Wolf of the Battlefield Commando 3 [Xbox Live Arcade]
new![native 1080p] Feeding Frenzy 2 [Xbox Live Arcade]
new![native 1080p] Portal [Xbox Live Arcade]
[native 1080p] Boogie Bunnies [Xbox Live Arcade]
[native 1080p] Street Home Court
[native 1080p] Virtual Tennis 3

Box advertised 1080p games available for the Xbox 360 include the following 35 total titles. Purists will view native 1080p as the best possible resolution, not 720p titles upscaled to 1080p. The titles below show 1080p on the back of the game boxes but have not been confirmed by third party sources as being native 1080p.

A (2)
All Pro Football 2K8
Armored Core 4

B (4)
Battlefield 2 (Platinum Hits)
The Bigs
Bioshock
Bullet Witch

C (3)
Call of Duty 3
Call of Juarez
Command & Conquer 3

D (2)
Dead or Alive 4 (Platinum Hits)
Dance Dance Revolution Universe

F (2)
Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer
Fight Night Round 3

G (1)
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter

H (3)
Harry Potter
Halo 3
Hour of Victory

I (1)
Icon

M (2)
Meet The Robinsons
Monster Madness Battle for Suburbia

N (2)
NCAA 08 Football
NCAA 07 March Madness

O (1)
Overlord

P (1)
Pirates of the Carribean

R (2)
Ratatouilio
Rayman Raving Rabbit

S (5)
Saints Row
Shadowrun
Spiderman 3
Superman Returns
Surf’s Up

T (2)
Tetris Evolution
Two Worlds

U (1)
UEFA Championship Soccer

V (1)
Vampire Rain

Notes on both lists
- The native 1080p games list (the first list) is confirmed by multiple third party sources.
- All titles listed above have been checked as being 1080p compatible firsthand by the back of the game box and/or by owning/playing the game at 1080p resolution. System used: Xbox 360 Elite with HDMI on Samsung LCD 1080p TV.
- you can find a list of PS3 1080p games here. All titles listed there are native 1080p as there are no known titles for the PS3 that advertise 1080 support on the back of the game boxes and aren’t native 1080p.
- corrections or additions to the lists? Leave your comments here

List last updated Nov 22, 2008 10:01pm PST

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 Superman TAS wrote:

 Vince604 wrote:

Just wondering, which games are rendered in 1080p? 

Bear in mind - there are currently 1,188 Game Titles for the XB360 - this is NOT including the Original XB Game Discs, but may include Original XB On-Demand

http://www.makeyougohmm.com/xbox360-1080p-games/

Native 1080p games available for the Xbox 360 include the following 6 titles:

new![native 1080p] Wolf of the Battlefield Commando 3 [Xbox Live Arcade]
new![native 1080p] Feeding Frenzy 2 [Xbox Live Arcade]
new![native 1080p] Portal [Xbox Live Arcade]
[native 1080p] Boogie Bunnies [Xbox Live Arcade]
[native 1080p] Street Home Court
[native 1080p] Virtual Tennis 3

Box advertised 1080p games available for the Xbox 360 include the following 35 total titles. Purists will view native 1080p as the best possible resolution, not 720p titles upscaled to 1080p. The titles below show 1080p on the back of the game boxes but have not been confirmed by third party sources as being native 1080p.

A (2)
All Pro Football 2K8
Armored Core 4

B (4)
Battlefield 2 (Platinum Hits)
The Bigs
Bioshock
Bullet Witch

C (3)
Call of Duty 3
Call of Juarez
Command & Conquer 3

D (2)
Dead or Alive 4 (Platinum Hits)
Dance Dance Revolution Universe

F (2)
Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer
Fight Night Round 3

G (1)
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter

H (3)
Harry Potter
Halo 3
Hour of Victory

I (1)
Icon

M (2)
Meet The Robinsons
Monster Madness Battle for Suburbia

N (2)
NCAA 08 Football
NCAA 07 March Madness

O (1)
Overlord

P (1)
Pirates of the Carribean

R (2)
Ratatouilio
Rayman Raving Rabbit

S (5)
Saints Row
Shadowrun
Spiderman 3
Superman Returns
Surf’s Up

T (2)
Tetris Evolution
Two Worlds

U (1)
UEFA Championship Soccer

V (1)
Vampire Rain

Notes on both lists
- The native 1080p games list (the first list) is confirmed by multiple third party sources.
- All titles listed above have been checked as being 1080p compatible firsthand by the back of the game box and/or by owning/playing the game at 1080p resolution. System used: Xbox 360 Elite with HDMI on Samsung LCD 1080p TV.
- you can find a list of PS3 1080p games here. All titles listed there are native 1080p as there are no known titles for the PS3 that advertise 1080 support on the back of the game boxes and aren’t native 1080p.
- corrections or additions to the lists? Leave your comments here

List last updated Nov 22, 2008 10:01pm PST

*coughs* I was about to do that....

Does anyone know which full 360 games are confirmed native 1080p? (non-arcade titles)

 Vince604 wrote:

Does anyone know which full 360 games are confirmed native 1080p? (non-arcade titles)

Did you look at the list above .

 ML KioncWarlord wrote:

 Vince604 wrote:

Does anyone know which full 360 games are confirmed native 1080p? (non-arcade titles)

Did you look at the list above .

So there's only 2?