Yeah we're in the wrong here, not the guys who think cheating is ok if you paid for the product. Makes perfect sense to me.

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 UnyoBro wrote:

Yeah we're in the wrong here, not the guys who think cheating is ok if you paid for the product. Makes perfect sense to me.

Man, I go away for a few weeks and all Heck breaks loose. ;-)

I had hoped to see some of you guys in Borderlands. If any of you are looking to explore Pandora with a  lvl 30+ Berserker or lvl 50 Siren in the near future, drop me a line.

Seriously, I can understand why Sr has its devotees. Just playing with decent ppl is a big draw, and there are plenty of you out there.

Here in spirit,
Rude

 hobblejp wrote:

 xXxSN00PYxXx wrote:

 UnyoBro wrote:

I really should start keeping track of who is looking to boost, everytime I think to check the person has "pro" as there group. I find that amusing that these so called pros can't even get simple achievements.

obviously i can get the 100 vista kills but i just dont want to take the time and shadowrun has gotten old and i want to sell it to someone but i wanted the achievements first...oh and me having pro means i play to win not a god at a game douchebag 

No pro means you play fair, respect other players and want to win by fair means rather than dubious means (Im underground because I cant help but end up in trash talking arguements lol)

And achievements have nothing to do with winning a game. He's not getting an unfair advantage that you don't have, is he?

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 o ShanKs wrote:

 hobblejp wrote:

 xXxSN00PYxXx wrote:

 UnyoBro wrote:

I really should start keeping track of who is looking to boost, everytime I think to check the person has "pro" as there group. I find that amusing that these so called pros can't even get simple achievements.

obviously i can get the 100 vista kills but i just dont want to take the time and shadowrun has gotten old and i want to sell it to someone but i wanted the achievements first...oh and me having pro means i play to win not a god at a game douchebag 

No pro means you play fair, respect other players and want to win by fair means rather than dubious means (Im underground because I cant help but end up in trash talking arguements lol)

And achievements have nothing to do with winning a game. He's not getting an unfair advantage that you don't have, is he?

No, but boosters ruin any meaning the achievement system could've had. It wouldn't be meaningless if people weren't so lame about cheating for things that are supposed to reflect how much you've achieved in a game.

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 UnyoBro wrote:

 o ShanKs wrote:

 hobblejp wrote:

 xXxSN00PYxXx wrote:

 UnyoBro wrote:

I really should start keeping track of who is looking to boost, everytime I think to check the person has "pro" as there group. I find that amusing that these so called pros can't even get simple achievements.

obviously i can get the 100 vista kills but i just dont want to take the time and shadowrun has gotten old and i want to sell it to someone but i wanted the achievements first...oh and me having pro means i play to win not a god at a game douchebag 

No pro means you play fair, respect other players and want to win by fair means rather than dubious means (Im underground because I cant help but end up in trash talking arguements lol)

And achievements have nothing to do with winning a game. He's not getting an unfair advantage that you don't have, is he?

No, but boosters ruin any meaning the achievement system could've had. It wouldn't be meaningless if people weren't so lame about cheating for things that are supposed to reflect how much you've achieved in a game.

Since games have had reward systems or goals like that people have tried to find the fastest way to gain them.  Boosting, ect.  So like you told me it would be impossible for an online gaming community to act gentlemanly it would also be highly unlikely that a community wouldn't boost for their challenges, achievements, upgrades, or whatever the game happens to have.

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 UnyoBro wrote:

 o ShanKs wrote:

 hobblejp wrote:

 xXxSN00PYxXx wrote:

 UnyoBro wrote:

I really should start keeping track of who is looking to boost, everytime I think to check the person has "pro" as there group. I find that amusing that these so called pros can't even get simple achievements.

obviously i can get the 100 vista kills but i just dont want to take the time and shadowrun has gotten old and i want to sell it to someone but i wanted the achievements first...oh and me having pro means i play to win not a god at a game douchebag 

No pro means you play fair, respect other players and want to win by fair means rather than dubious means (Im underground because I cant help but end up in trash talking arguements lol)

And achievements have nothing to do with winning a game. He's not getting an unfair advantage that you don't have, is he?

No, but boosters ruin any meaning the achievement system could've had. It wouldn't be meaningless if people weren't so lame about cheating for things that are supposed to reflect how much you've achieved in a game.

...who cares? I don't boost for achievements but seriously, it's pixels on your TV/Computer Screen. Achievements would mean nothing even if people boosted or didn't to get them. Just like K/D's on any game, rank, etc. It's your skill, not your stats, that matter. It has always been this way, it always WILL be this way.

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The point is if people weren't so apathetic about people boosting for achievements then maybe we'd have a system in place to actually judge accomplishments. I'm sure Microsoft takes notice of all the cheaters and they love it, people buy/rent more games if they can get worthless achievements.
Blame the cheaters for all the crap games coming out. If people will buy anything to boost thier gamerscore then companies will release almost anything as long as it has achievements attached to it.


Since games have had reward systems or goals like that people have tried to find the fastest way to gain them.  Boosting, ect.  So like you told me it would be impossible for an online gaming community to act gentlemanly it would also be highly unlikely that a community wouldn't boost for their challenges, achievements, upgrades, or whatever the game happens to have.
So this means we should just shrug our shoulders and give up? Sorry but I don't like cheaters of any kind and I'll talk about it when and wherever I feel like it. I just hope some people take notice and spread the word.

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 UnyoBro wrote:

The point is if people weren't so apathetic about people boosting for achievements then maybe we'd have a system in place to actually judge accomplishments. I'm sure Microsoft takes notice of all the cheaters and they love it, people buy/rent more games if they can get worthless achievements.
Blame the cheaters for all the crap games coming out. If people will buy anything to boost thier gamerscore then companies will release almost anything as long as it has achievements attached to it.


Since games have had reward systems or goals like that people have tried to find the fastest way to gain them.  Boosting, ect.  So like you told me it would be impossible for an online gaming community to act gentlemanly it would also be highly unlikely that a community wouldn't boost for their challenges, achievements, upgrades, or whatever the game happens to have.
So this means we should just shrug our shoulders and give up? Sorry but I don't like cheaters of any kind and I'll talk about it when and wherever I feel like it. I just hope some people take notice and spread the word.

exactly you know in the Quake wars tournament/ contest the top person spent 50 hours in a 1vs 1 no bot private online system link matches and sat there destroying and repairing an APC to earn points, yes because to find the best Quake wars players was whoever had the highest points, the points meant to be for winning matches and doing other things legitamately online not boosting to get free stuff.
If people gave more of a damn about people exploiting games be it boosting or cheating etc then maybe just maybe companies could have contests and run the to completion but thanks to boosters, glitchers etc no-one gets anything heck half the contests get cancelled now thanks to this so no-one wins

how about we all stop this arguing and tell ourselves, "Live and let Live"....meaning stop worrying about what other people do with their lives and just live yours to the best of your ability...

 xXxSN00PYxXx wrote:

how about we all stop this arguing and tell ourselves, "Live and let Live"....meaning stop worrying about what other people do with their lives and just live yours to the best of your ability...

The problem is boosters very often interfere with other peoples games, for the last 3 days an idiot has been joining many games I have been in, picking troll and moving a little at the start of every round and doing nothing else, every round, guess what? - he needs troll player and is simply picking a troll and moving just enough not to be kicked due to inactivity to lame his troll player achievement, one of the remaining 3 he needs.  He hasn't lasted out a single game since we realised what he was up to though and every game he has been booted.  Boosters and cheaters often affect the games of people who actually want a proper game, this is the problem that many idiot boosters do not understand.  In many games including Shadowrun boosters do negatively affect the games of others.