here are my official complaints about this game, and in general all atari games

of all tha atari games......the "classic" version on this one in my opinion is by far the worst......almost unplayable.  once i get the throttle monkey achievement, i will never be playing classic again.

classic is WAY too hard and all 3 cpu players should not always be looking to kill you.....atleast in the evolved mode they will take shots at each other, but in classic they all work against you only.  no game should ever be so hard that getting to level 2 should be an achievement.  seriously if i get the first kill in level 2 i feel like i accomplished something.  games were meant to last more than 2 minutes!

once again i have to bit.ch about achievements being undoable. there are 2 that nobody will probably ever get and that is unacceptable.  every game should have atleast 20 or so people with 200/200 imo.

and still on the lines of achievements.......this is for all atari games......we should be able to do them in whatever mode WE want.  for example, centipede lets me choose evolved or classic for all achievements.....why did you stop doing this?  classic is HORRIBLE on this game so i would like to do my achievements in evolved, on the  flip side evolved is HORRIBLE in asteroids, so i choose to play classic.  it should be up to us what version to play, because lets face it, you guys get 1 version wrong in every one of your games.

i think most would agree that in asteroids evolved is horrible, in warlords the classic version is horrible, in centipede evolved sucks again, in battlezone the classic version sucks a.ss, and in missle command evolved doesnt look too bad but then you start shooting lightning and you realize that you tried to get "too cute"  and i dont play tempest, so i will let others chime in on that.

next up we have throttle monkey.....i know a very small percentage like this crap (and by the way congrats to smallywood for getting every throttle monkey achievement, job well done) but most of us hate this mode and we have been bitc.hing about it since we first seen it.  so why do you keep doing it? it is unnecessary, do the majority a favor and nevery even think of that again.

then there is the glitched earl achievement......unacceptable....nuff said

 

bottom line is that you should read these forums and see what we complain about in order to make a better game next time.  we are the customers and the customers are ALWAYS right......we tell you not to do this crap and you still do it. STOP IT!!!!!!!!!

that is all i got for now but feel free to add your complaints here:

 

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I agree about the classic version of Warlords.  It's a bit over the top in difficulty (against the AI).

I didn't get much time with it last night, but I did enjoy what I saw of the evolved version.  My only complaint there would be on the presentation.  I wish they would have stuck with the castle theme instead of the robitic one.

I don't think classic mode would be as aggrivating for me if Evolved mode wasnt so much better. Evolved basically takes the classic gameplay and but does everything right. It is really hard to play classic after getting a taste of Evolved. Of course, I think the 3 against 1 aspect of classic mode had a lot to do with quarter munching. 

Yeah, I have to agree with the classic throttle monkey achievement. If  and when I get it, I will never touch it again. I looked on the leaderboards this morning and somebody actually made it to level 3....

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I came so close to beating it once, then I died .... That achievement is really really messed up.

Anyway I have a question  classic mode, can you use 2 controllers for the 500000 point achievement? Like you can in the evolved mode?

i agree with the majority of stuff you said, but the last pharagraph makes no sence, because your the one who keeps buying the games.

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I completely disagree with you, the classic versions are so much better on every atari game, hasven't tried this one yet.  It's just that more of the younger gamers complain about it cause they have no respect for retro gaming

 i know i keep buying them and i figured somebody would say that and it is a fair remark to make.....but i buy them because they seem fun when you play the demo......there is some things i do like about every game and i buy them for that reason.  i just wish they would see that most people feel the same way about the following

battlezone - evolved kicks a.ss

centipede - classic kicks a.ss

asteroids - classic kicks a.ss

warlords - evolved kicks a.ss

missle command - both modes are decent not great but decent

i bought the games for those reasons.......

from game to game they could have seen where improvments could have been made.  but they chose to ignore those areas

 

and i do remember playing these all on the PC as a kid.....im 25 and was around to play them back in the day.  you cant possibly tell me you like classic on battlezone better than evolved.  if so then you are the very few percent on the other side of the fence......and you cant possibly tell me you actually like playing these things at the speed of throttle monkey.

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 DMA Lost Legend wrote:

I completely disagree with you, the classic versions are so much better on every atari game, hasven't tried this one yet.  It's just that more of the younger gamers complain about it cause they have no respect for retro gaming

I have been gaming for many, many years and have played most the classic games before. The evolved modes are updates that usually try to bring in a new generation of gamers and to update games from arcade play (quarter munching style) to a more active playing style.

 

Usually, I prefer the classic over the evolved (asteroides, millipede/centipede). Sometimes though, there is so much difference between the classic and evolved versions that it doesnt even feel like the same game.

 

As far as this game goes though, the evolved is about 10x better in my opinion. The evolved game was surprisingly fun, and takes the classic game and makes it enjoyable.

Personally, I only bought Tempest, and I don´t think I´ll buy another Atari XBLA game again...

In that case, Classic is really better than Evolved (in fact, it´s what made me buy the game), but all achievements are for Evolved.

I never played the original Atari game, but I also think that the classic game is horrible. The controls in evolved are so much better. I really like Warlords, It's the first Atari remake I buyed. But it is really frustrating that some achievements do not work proper. I have problems with the Viscount achievement. I cannot get it although both players have more than 10000 points. :( And I tried it several times...

From all the Atari games I tried, this is how I see it

 

C/M- Classic better

A/D- Classic better

Tempest- classic better

MC- classic better

I played all those Classics listed when they first came out. They are the reason I bought the XBLA-games. The Evolved games have done what the old-gamers should do...EVOLVE! Without the Evolved-versions I never would have bought the games at all. Like the music of the 70's....yea I miss them but I sure ain't gonna buy them again! Heck, even PacManCE is better than the originals. Just my 2c though, as you youngsters can enjoy the Classics all you want.

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 DMA Lost Legend wrote:

From all the Atari games I tried, this is how I see it

 

C/M- Classic better

A/D- Classic better

Tempest- classic better

MC- classic better

i will agree on asteroids and centipede

but the 2 games you didnt mention are the 2 ones that evolved are clearly the better game in.  i highly doubt you can find a total of five people that like classic better in warlords or battlezone.  they are almost unplayable on classic but addicting on evolved.  give them a shot and tell me what you honestly think.

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I agree on the whole achievement issue.  You should have a target score for Classic and a target score for Evolved for each achievement.

I also agree that in some games classic is better (Centipede and Millipeded and Asteroids) but that classic Warlords is utter dross.  Evolved is an amazing game though and I won't be touching classic again.

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classic is WAY too hard and all 3 cpu players should not always be looking to kill you.....

Except it's an exact port of the arcade version, and guess what? THAT'S WHAT THEY DID IN THE ARCADE VERSION. LOL

Heaven forbid dev.s should tailor quarter munchers for the home audience.

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 averybluemonkey wrote:

I agree on the whole achievement issue.  You should have a target score for Classic and a target score for Evolved for each achievement.

I also agree that in some games classic is better (Centipede and Millipeded and Asteroids) but that classic Warlords is utter dross.  Evolved is an amazing game though and I won't be touching classic again.

 

Agreed

 

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