Nice post dude well done, Cheers
darknessis 12 wrote:Sounds like you've had a hard time man, fighting all the bosses without weapons is to hard for me. I did the old way and cleared the game with each weapon from the beginning (because i didn't know about the trick).
busta87 wrote:Thanks im going to try this later i think should be good. One question did you farm to get all that essence im thinking of trying this run but obv need alot of items etc to get me through any tips ?
Lol, no I didn't farm. I did a regular run on Acolyte first (made it my DS-run). You have to do a regular run first cuz otherwise you can't do the weaponless run; you need the IS, the Wind-shuriken, and all the jewels and stuff to pull it of (so do not use any items beside the deamon seals on your first run!). At the end of that run I had about 220.000 left (after upgrading all weapons) and that's when I did the weaponless run.
Twice still beats 8 times
I tried this a while back and sadly I must have hit someone somewhere and didnt get the achievements, but did get the sword master since it was the only one equipped the entire time. I will redo this again since I have gathered enough strength from the frustration of Mentor.
Just a few additions:
1) Alexie can be hit with an IS while he is spinning, just make sure to get out of the way quick.
2) Equip only one weapon through the game, just in case you hit someone while casting ninpo (Most probably my case).
3) Cast a ninpo only when you are some distance from the enemy, else Ryu slashes away if you miss that B.
4) Make separate save for each chapter after Ch 8, just in case you miss the achievemnt and want to start those last few tricky ones.... better than starting the whole thing again.
Just my thoughts, I will start on this soon (again!!) and give more tips. I also could just go ahaead and use each weapon thru the game 7 more times, but this is more challenging and hence more fun.
Cheers.
Good additions Kaizer! Specially number 1, if that is true! I could've used that! Alexei cost me a lot of ninpo, Spirit Devils and talismans because of that spin.
krayto wrote:so its a glitch then u wen u dont use a weapon u get all the weapon achievements at once? or am i missing something
No you get right near the end and finish the rest of the game each time with a different weapon
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NoBacon4U77 wrote:Wait, do you get an achievment for doing a weaponless run?
Xx JAH xX wrote: NoBacon4U77 wrote:Wait, do you get an achievment for doing a weaponless run?No you don't. This is the trick to get all your weapon achievements in one run! After you saved your game for the last time (check my 1st post to see where I did that) you pick a weapon and finish the only last chapter of the game. That will give you the achievement for that weapon.Then you load that save again and pick another weapon. So you only have to use each weapon for only a part of the final chapter instead of going through the entire game 8 times.
King Ohg wrote: Xx JAH xX wrote: NoBacon4U77 wrote:Wait, do you get an achievment for doing a weaponless run?No you don't. This is the trick to get all your weapon achievements in one run! After you saved your game for the last time (check my 1st post to see where I did that) you pick a weapon and finish the only last chapter of the game. That will give you the achievement for that weapon.Then you load that save again and pick another weapon. So you only have to use each weapon for only a part of the final chapter instead of going through the entire game 8 times. Hey Jah, so I'm at Chpt 7 and have to destroy the control panels to bring down the plane. if i destroy those with my melee weapon will it mess up the run? i read somewhere on here that it doesnt matter if you hit environment objects, (pots, tress, stone slabs in Chpt 10) just as long as you dont hit an enemy. Is this true? i just want to make sure so I dont go thru the whole game and dont get the achievements.
You can hit 'Objects' since they dont count towards 'Hits'. The Karma record system only counts those, so you should be fine if you destroy the panels with melee weapons.
Kaizer Souzay wrote: King Ohg wrote: Xx JAH xX wrote: NoBacon4U77 wrote:Wait, do you get an achievment for doing a weaponless run?No you don't. This is the trick to get all your weapon achievements in one run! After you saved your game for the last time (check my 1st post to see where I did that) you pick a weapon and finish the only last chapter of the game. That will give you the achievement for that weapon.Then you load that save again and pick another weapon. So you only have to use each weapon for only a part of the final chapter instead of going through the entire game 8 times. Hey Jah, so I'm at Chpt 7 and have to destroy the control panels to bring down the plane. if i destroy those with my melee weapon will it mess up the run? i read somewhere on here that it doesnt matter if you hit environment objects, (pots, tress, stone slabs in Chpt 10) just as long as you dont hit an enemy. Is this true? i just want to make sure so I dont go thru the whole game and dont get the achievements. You can hit 'Objects' since they dont count towards 'Hits'. The Karma record system only counts those, so you should be fine if you destroy the panels with melee weapons.
Yeah, you can hit objects, you can even hit the meatsacks in the tunnels (I think Ch.13) where the ninja's drop out of. As long as you don't hit the ninja's. (3 hits with X with the DS for the ninja's and 5 or 6 for the spider meatsack).
Xx JAH xX wrote: Kaizer Souzay wrote: King Ohg wrote: Xx JAH xX wrote: NoBacon4U77 wrote:Wait, do you get an achievment for doing a weaponless run?No you don't. This is the trick to get all your weapon achievements in one run! After you saved your game for the last time (check my 1st post to see where I did that) you pick a weapon and finish the only last chapter of the game. That will give you the achievement for that weapon.Then you load that save again and pick another weapon. So you only have to use each weapon for only a part of the final chapter instead of going through the entire game 8 times. Hey Jah, so I'm at Chpt 7 and have to destroy the control panels to bring down the plane. if i destroy those with my melee weapon will it mess up the run? i read somewhere on here that it doesnt matter if you hit environment objects, (pots, tress, stone slabs in Chpt 10) just as long as you dont hit an enemy. Is this true? i just want to make sure so I dont go thru the whole game and dont get the achievements. You can hit 'Objects' since they dont count towards 'Hits'. The Karma record system only counts those, so you should be fine if you destroy the panels with melee weapons. Yeah, you can hit objects, you can even hit the meatsacks in the tunnels (I think Ch.13) where the ninja's drop out of. As long as you don't hit the ninja's. (3 hits with X with the DS for the ninja's and 5 or 6 for the spider meatsack).
busta87 wrote:Jah my problem is I dont have alot of essence after playing through esp not 220,000 worth anyways. Im either thinking I will play through acolyte one more time get enough essence and then try a wepaonless run unless you have any tips to help me out mate id appreciate it.
Well, you don't need 220.000 since I had 120.000 to spare at the end. Was your playthrough on Acolyte or Warrior? Cuz doing a weaponless run on Warrior is not recommendable. Bosses are harder to kill so you might not have enough ninpo to kill em.
So you should do an Acolyte run first and save every item you find (except Deamon seal) specially the Devil spirits!! You can save money in this run by not upgrading weapons you don't use. Also on Acolyte everything is much cheaper and you will use a lot of talismans on your weaponless run (to refill your ninpo).
Remember to supress your instinct to wanna fight when you see enemies! Skip, run, flee, despawn, hide, bribe, I don't care, just don't fight if you don't have to! (except for the stairs in Ch.10 you don't wanna miss that fight... well, wind-ninpo spam-fest actually).
Good luck
Xx JAH xX wrote: busta87 wrote:Jah my problem is I dont have alot of essence after playing through esp not 220,000 worth anyways. Im either thinking I will play through acolyte one more time get enough essence and then try a wepaonless run unless you have any tips to help me out mate id appreciate it. Well, you don't need 220.000 since I had 120.000 to spare at the end. Was your playthrough on Acolyte or Warrior? Cuz doing a weaponless run on Warrior is not recommendable. Bosses are harder to kill so you might not have enough ninpo to kill em. So you should do an Acolyte run first and save every item you find (except Deamon seal) specially the Devil spirits!! You can save money in this run by not upgrading weapons you don't use. Also on Acolyte everything is much cheaper and you will use a lot of talismans on your weaponless run (to refill your ninpo). Remember to supress your instinct to wanna fight when you see enemies! Skip, run, flee, despawn, hide, bribe, I don't care, just don't fight if you don't have to! (except for the stairs in Ch.10 you don't wanna miss that fight... well, wind-ninpo spam-fest actually). Good luck
So im best doing another acolyte run your saying save all i can do most TOVs and then try my weaponless run after that. Yeh but all my weapons are upgraded mate already does that matter if i start a game like this or do i need to start a game with all my weapons at lvl 1 ?
busta87 wrote: So im best doing another acolyte run your saying save all i can do most TOVs and then try my weaponless run after that. Yeh but all my weapons are upgraded mate already does that matter if i start a game like this or do i need to start a game with all my weapons at lvl 1 ?
You can do the weaponless run with all upgraded weapons. How much money do you have after your run? Cuz if it's around 100.000 I think you're good to go.
I did say run past all chests and stuff but you might wanna make an exception for chests with a talisman cuz they are worth 20.000 in essence (and there are at least 7 of them throughout the game).
And, yeah on my first Acolyte run I did all the ToV's and saved everything I found except the Deamon seals. I did upgrade all my weapons at the end of my first run but you don't have to. You can save that money if you think you need it cuz you're not gonna use a weapon in your weaponless run anyway. Just remember to upgrade the weapon of choice at the last Muramasu.
Xx JAH xX wrote: busta87 wrote: So im best doing another acolyte run your saying save all i can do most TOVs and then try my weaponless run after that. Yeh but all my weapons are upgraded mate already does that matter if i start a game like this or do i need to start a game with all my weapons at lvl 1 ? You can do the weaponless run with all upgraded weapons. How much money do you have after your run? Cuz if it's around 100.000 I think you're good to go. I did say run past all chests and stuff but you might wanna make an exception for chests with a talisman cuz they are worth 20.000 in essence (and there are at least 7 of them throughout the game). And, yeah on my first Acolyte run I did all the ToV's and saved everything I found except the Deamon seals. I did upgrade all my weapons at the end of my first run but you don't have to. You can save that money if you think you need it cuz you're not gonna use a weapon in your weaponless run anyway. Just remember to upgrade the weapon of choice at the last Muramasu.
Mate blitzed through a second run on acolyte got so far 240,000 essence on chapter 8 just using the DS the now just for the *** of it and then once im done will try the weaponless run aswell dont suppose you have the locations of them chests ur talkin about ?
Thanks for all info so far aswell mate ;)
busta87 wrote:Chapter 13 just under 350,000 sure thats enough to get me through I havent bought anything apart from two spirit of devils but keeping them safe ;)
Xx JAH xX wrote: busta87 wrote:Chapter 13 just under 350,000 sure thats enough to get me through I havent bought anything apart from two spirit of devils but keeping them safe ;)Well with that kind of money you can run past the talisman-chests aswell.Should you still want them; the link to the guide in my 1st post has most locations.Good that you saved the sprit of the Devils. If I'm correct you should have ninpo 5 slots allready and 2 extra in your inventory AND when you make your weaponless run can buy 2 more. Mate, you got nothing to worry about!
Thanks and btw how hard is it not to stop and fight these little runts :P lol. One more question does blocking count as using the weapon?
Im on lvl 2 just before the spider havetn blocked so far but just wanted to check incase mate
busta87 wrote: Xx JAH xX wrote: busta87 wrote:Chapter 13 just under 350,000 sure thats enough to get me through I havent bought anything apart from two spirit of devils but keeping them safe ;)Well with that kind of money you can run past the talisman-chests aswell.Should you still want them; the link to the guide in my 1st post has most locations.Good that you saved the sprit of the Devils. If I'm correct you should have ninpo 5 slots allready and 2 extra in your inventory AND when you make your weaponless run can buy 2 more. Mate, you got nothing to worry about! Thanks and btw how hard is it not to stop and fight these little runts :P lol. One more question does blocking count as using the weapon? Im on lvl 2 just before the spider havetn blocked so far but just wanted to check incase mate
Xx JAH xX wrote: busta87 wrote: Xx JAH xX wrote: busta87 wrote:Chapter 13 just under 350,000 sure thats enough to get me through I havent bought anything apart from two spirit of devils but keeping them safe ;)Well with that kind of money you can run past the talisman-chests aswell.Should you still want them; the link to the guide in my 1st post has most locations.Good that you saved the sprit of the Devils. If I'm correct you should have ninpo 5 slots allready and 2 extra in your inventory AND when you make your weaponless run can buy 2 more. Mate, you got nothing to worry about! Thanks and btw how hard is it not to stop and fight these little runts :P lol. One more question does blocking count as using the weapon? Im on lvl 2 just before the spider havetn blocked so far but just wanted to check incase mate You can block all you want just make sure you don't couterattack. I really had to force myself to run away (specially if one of those runts hit me!). Also somehow I felt the urge to save at every save point and to visit a shop when I saw one; DON'T! I only saved at point where you either had to fight or it was safe. Same story with the shops; when you don't need anything (IS or ninpo) just run by.
Nice tip mate will bear that in mind about the shops aswell just find it hard sometimes hitten ppl coz i miss the button when trying to cast a ninpo.
On chapter 3. I got past genshin first try :O? must have been luck only use I shurikens and one sprit of life so not too much lost either. But its just soo hard not to hit any one lol