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   01-12-2009, 6:56 PM
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Goku v.s. Superman
There's been alot of controversy lately between fans of the series.

What's your opinion? Personally I hate Superman and know he would get owned by Goku.

Why? Superman is weak against Kryptonite and has to be far away from his homeworld to have any sort of powers.
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   01-13-2009, 8:33 PM
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Goku all the way.


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   01-14-2009, 5:21 PM
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Goku would win for sure. His spirit bomb would demolish him without breaking a sweat.

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   01-16-2009, 2:45 AM
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   01-18-2009, 8:03 PM
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Have you're balls dropped off? Superman had a weekness for all I knew, Goku doesn't, exept that he fights for his love ones, but he could just wish em back. He could beet superman in his normal self.
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   01-19-2009, 5:38 AM
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 H84EVA wrote:
Have you're balls dropped off? Superman had a weekness for all I knew, Goku doesn't, exept that he fights for his love ones, but he could just wish em back. He could beet superman in his normal self.


He could beat him but not in his normal self

probably SSJ 1 or 2

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   01-21-2009, 12:41 AM
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Even though I hate DC characters, I'm gonna have to say that Superman could win. You guys just can't understand this because you're all Dragonball Z fanboys. I think that it'd be a massive fight. It would destroy the planet most likely. In the end I think that they would both be extroadinarely weak from the fight.
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   01-21-2009, 4:17 AM
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 bE rAd 82 wrote:
Even though I hate DC characters, I'm gonna have to say that Superman could win. You guys just can't understand this because you're all Dragonball Z fanboys. I think that it'd be a massive fight. It would destroy the planet most likely. In the end I think that they would both be extroadinarely weak from the fight.


I think that was an ignorant post

I'm not a fan-boy
I could care less about a Japanese spiky haired jackass

But you probably are right

Superman is totally powerful..And Goku is also equally if not as powerfull..to be honest idk why I put Goku could beat Superman at SSJ1
In actuality he would probably need to be at his strongest ( SSJ4 or Fusion etc. ) I know I use to be a fanboy of Goku but now i've done alot of research on Superman. And to be honest it would kinda be a draw or *** who knows. Goku never stops getting stronger. But who knows I mean Wizard did a article on them fighting but  GOku  won and theres all these others. Its ridculous
It would be a crazy fight if they really honestly did do a legit fight.

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   01-22-2009, 1:19 PM
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Goku wud smash superman, he could blow up the planet with a kamahameha =/ i dnt think he wud have to go ssj, just kaoken his ***
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   01-22-2009, 11:52 PM
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 jakegg93 wrote:
Goku wud smash superman, he could blow up the planet with a kamahameha =/ i dnt think he wud have to go ssj, just kaoken his ***
Superman could survive a planet explosion.
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   01-23-2009, 1:53 AM
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You realize Goku's origin story was inspired by Superman right? along with the legend of the Monkey King also.

Just to point it out.

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   01-25-2009, 5:33 AM
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Goku could kick superman into outer space then he would die of no oxygen.
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   01-25-2009, 8:38 AM
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 OKLAHOMAxNATIVE wrote:
Goku could kick superman into outer space then he would die of no oxygen.
I doubt it. Superman is pretty fast and thus evasive. Also, Supes don't need oxygen!
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   01-25-2009, 5:07 PM
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 darktake wrote:
 bE rAd 82 wrote:
Even though I hate DC characters, I'm gonna have to say that Superman could win. You guys just can't understand this because you're all Dragonball Z fanboys. I think that it'd be a massive fight. It would destroy the planet most likely. In the end I think that they would both be extroadinarely weak from the fight.


I think that was an ignorant post

I'm not a fan-boy
I could care less about a Japanese spiky haired jackass

But you probably are right

Superman is totally powerful..And Goku is also equally if not as powerfull..to be honest idk why I put Goku could beat Superman at SSJ1
In actuality he would probably need to be at his strongest ( SSJ4 or Fusion etc. ) I know I use to be a fanboy of Goku but now i've done alot of research on Superman. And to be honest it would kinda be a draw or *** who knows. Goku never stops getting stronger. But who knows I mean Wizard did a article on them fighting but  GOku  won and theres all these others. Its ridculous
It would be a crazy fight if they really honestly did do a legit fight.





people always say either goku would own superman or vice versa goku would win but it would be a long *** crazy fight cause goku is way stronger than doomsday and the only reason he beat doomsday is cause doomsday cant fly.  but yea goku could win cause goku IS faster than superman thats why in dbz they hit so freakin hard. but the only reason why superman couldnt beat him cause superman has a power limit. goku just keeps on gettin stronger and stronger, supermans smarter and almost as fast and trong as goku which would make it a good fight but goku would have 2 power up 2 SS4 to barley be able 2 beat him,

but now if he fused w/ vegeta  was gogeta it be over a hella lot fast

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   01-25-2009, 8:51 PM
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 bE rAd 82 wrote:
 OKLAHOMAxNATIVE wrote:
Goku could kick superman into outer space then he would die of no oxygen.
I doubt it. Superman is pretty fast and thus evasive. Also, Supes don't need oxygen!
If that was true then his race would have survived that planet explosion. All goku would have to do is shove some kryptonite up supermans butt then kick him into outer space then superman would die.
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   01-25-2009, 8:52 PM
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 bE rAd 82 wrote:
 OKLAHOMAxNATIVE wrote:
Goku could kick superman into outer space then he would die of no oxygen.
I doubt it. Superman is pretty fast and thus evasive. Also, Supes don't need oxygen!
If that was true then his race would have survived that planet explosion. All goku would have to do is shove some kryptonite up supermans butt then kick him into outer space then superman would die.
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   01-25-2009, 10:29 PM
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 OKLAHOMAxNATIVE wrote:
 bE rAd 82 wrote:
 OKLAHOMAxNATIVE wrote:
Goku could kick superman into outer space then he would die of no oxygen.
I doubt it. Superman is pretty fast and thus evasive. Also, Supes don't need oxygen!
If that was true then his race would have survived that planet explosion. All goku would have to do is shove some kryptonite up supermans butt then kick him into outer space then superman would die.
It is true. In fact if you think about it really carefully and are well educated, you'd probably realise that the EXPLOSION killed them. Fool.
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   01-28-2009, 1:41 AM
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 darktake wrote:
 bE rAd 82 wrote:
Even though I hate DC characters, I'm gonna have to say that Superman could win. You guys just can't understand this because you're all Dragonball Z fanboys. I think that it'd be a massive fight. It would destroy the planet most likely. In the end I think that they would both be extroadinarely weak from the fight.


I think that was an ignorant post

I'm not a fan-boy
I could care less about a Japanese spiky haired jackass

But you probably are right

Superman is totally powerful..And Goku is also equally if not as powerfull..to be honest idk why I put Goku could beat Superman at SSJ1
In actuality he would probably need to be at his strongest ( SSJ4 or Fusion etc. ) I know I use to be a fanboy of Goku but now i've done alot of research on Superman. And to be honest it would kinda be a draw or *** who knows. Goku never stops getting stronger. But who knows I mean Wizard did a article on them fighting but  GOku  won and theres all these others. Its ridculous
It would be a crazy fight if they really honestly did do a legit fight.


Yes it was ignorant.

As much as I love DBZ I'm not going to act like a biased PS3 fanboy. Supes has alot of abilities but he has limitations and a weakness. SSJ1-2 should be enough, but then again we wouldn't really know.
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   01-28-2009, 4:02 AM
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 BUSHNAK wrote:
 darktake wrote:
 bE rAd 82 wrote:
Even though I hate DC characters, I'm gonna have to say that Superman could win. You guys just can't understand this because you're all Dragonball Z fanboys. I think that it'd be a massive fight. It would destroy the planet most likely. In the end I think that they would both be extroadinarely weak from the fight.


I think that was an ignorant post

I'm not a fan-boy
I could care less about a Japanese spiky haired jackass

But you probably are right

Superman is totally powerful..And Goku is also equally if not as powerfull..to be honest idk why I put Goku could beat Superman at SSJ1
In actuality he would probably need to be at his strongest ( SSJ4 or Fusion etc. ) I know I use to be a fanboy of Goku but now i've done alot of research on Superman. And to be honest it would kinda be a draw or *** who knows. Goku never stops getting stronger. But who knows I mean Wizard did a article on them fighting but  GOku  won and theres all these others. Its ridculous
It would be a crazy fight if they really honestly did do a legit fight.


Yes it was ignorant.

As much as I love DBZ I'm not going to act like a biased PS3 fanboy. Supes has alot of abilities but he has limitations and a weakness. SSJ1-2 should be enough, but then again we wouldn't really know.
i think ssj1 goku would be enough to kill superman.
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   01-28-2009, 4:50 AM
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 BUSHNAK wrote:
 darktake wrote:
 bE rAd 82 wrote:
Even though I hate DC characters, I'm gonna have to say that Superman could win. You guys just can't understand this because you're all Dragonball Z fanboys. I think that it'd be a massive fight. It would destroy the planet most likely. In the end I think that they would both be extroadinarely weak from the fight.


I think that was an ignorant post

I'm not a fan-boy
I could care less about a Japanese spiky haired jackass

But you probably are right

Superman is totally powerful..And Goku is also equally if not as powerfull..to be honest idk why I put Goku could beat Superman at SSJ1
In actuality he would probably need to be at his strongest ( SSJ4 or Fusion etc. ) I know I use to be a fanboy of Goku but now i've done alot of research on Superman. And to be honest it would kinda be a draw or *** who knows. Goku never stops getting stronger. But who knows I mean Wizard did a article on them fighting but  GOku  won and theres all these others. Its ridculous
It would be a crazy fight if they really honestly did do a legit fight.


Yes it was ignorant.

As much as I love DBZ I'm not going to act like a biased PS3 fanboy. Supes has alot of abilities but he has limitations and a weakness. SSJ1-2 should be enough, but then again we wouldn't really know.



Yeah your very right
We may never know. I think it would be at least SSJ3 idk but I was doing some research because I was bored and everyone was saying something about Superboy Prime and wow that mo-fo is pretty damn powerful 

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   01-29-2009, 1:53 AM
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Hmmmmm????

Never heard of him, I really do not like DC at all. All their hardcore fans are pretty much like the comic guy from Simpsons. (no offense) It's just every DC fanboy I talked to will "literally" fight for hours-days and convince you that Supes would own Goku. Nada, didn't work on me, they only used biased opinion.
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   01-30-2009, 7:52 AM
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Hmmmmm????

Never heard of him, I really do not like DC at all. All their hardcore fans are pretty much like the comic guy from Simpsons. (no offense) It's just every DC fanboy I talked to will "literally" fight for hours-days and convince you that Supes would own Goku. Nada, didn't work on me, they only used biased opinion.
They do!!! My friend can't handle that I like Marvel over DC. He keeps insisting that DC is better. Ah well I'm not that phased by it.
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   01-30-2009, 7:01 PM
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 bE rAd 82 wrote:
 BUSHNAK wrote:
Hmmmmm????

Never heard of him, I really do not like DC at all. All their hardcore fans are pretty much like the comic guy from Simpsons. (no offense) It's just every DC fanboy I talked to will "literally" fight for hours-days and convince you that Supes would own Goku. Nada, didn't work on me, they only used biased opinion.
They do!!! My friend can't handle that I like Marvel over DC. He keeps insisting that DC is better. Ah well I'm not that phased by it.


I love Marvel, they have alot of good content coming to theaters.
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   02-05-2009, 6:59 AM
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You guys only say Goku cus this is the dbz forums id have to go with cat women. Cus u know her whip would just tame that beast of that goku like the slave he always wanted to be
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   02-05-2009, 7:05 PM
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You guys only say Goku cus this is the dbz forums id have to go with cat women. Cus u know her whip would just tame that beast of that goku like the slave he always wanted to be


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   02-05-2009, 10:51 PM
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 Monkey1148 wrote:
You guys only say Goku cus this is the dbz forums id have to go with cat women. Cus u know her whip would just tame that beast of that goku like the slave he always wanted to be


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   02-06-2009, 9:26 PM
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There's been alot of controversy lately between fans of the series.

What's your opinion? Personally I hate Superman and know he would get owned by Goku.

Why? Superman is weak against Kryptonite and has to be far away from his homeworld to have any sort of powers.


Ah, this topic again.  This debate between Superman and Goku is bound to never end, thanks to fanboys and fangirls of both.  Though, I will offer my unbiased opinion on this matter in an effort to show some light to this debate.

First, lets evaluate the speed of the two.  Superman, obviously, moves faster than a modern bullet nowadays.  Goku can move the same speed by teleporting, reaching much faster super speeds in higher Super Saiyan levels.  Though, even in his normal form, Goku would have the advantage.  He has the ability to move at the speed of light (Instant Transmission).

Now we get to the biggest part of it, strength.  Superman is, no doubt, amazingly powerful.  Any modern weapons can not harm him.  He also has the power to destroy a planet if he really wanted to.  Goku, on the other hand, has different strength levels from Super Saiyan transformations.  In his normal form, modern weapons also do not harm him, and he still has the power to destroy a planet to (refer to the Saiyan Saga if you do not believe me).  Even so, Superman would most definitely overpower Goku in his nomal form from sheer power.  Goku would have to use Kaio Ken x20 to put up a fight and even it out a little, but it couldn't be maintained.  Once transformed into a Super Saiyan, though, the actual battle would begin.

Most people increasingly underestimate the true power of the Super Saiyan transformation.  Remember that Goku had mastered the transformation, and can use it effectively by draining near-zero energy to maintain it.  In this state, Goku's normal speed is past Superman's (for a number answer, both fighters had the same speed in his normal state, and the Super Saiyan transformation multiplies Goku's strength and speed by about fifty).  Pure power wise, Goku again has the lead on Superman.  You have to realize exactly what Goku has accomplished in only his Super Saiyan transformation to realize exactly how much he had improved in the entire series.  Remember he killed Kid Buu, the strongest being in the galexy, in only the first Super Saiyan transformation with the Spirit Bomb.

And as for if the planet blew up, remember that Goku can move at light speed, and would just use his Instant Transmission technique to move to another habitable planet, either one he had been to or the Kai's worlds.

So in closing, Superman would beat Goku in his untransformed state, Goku having to use Kaio Ken just to keep up.  But once transformed into Super Saiyan, he would control the fight.  If all else failed, the higher levels of Super Saiyan (2, 3, and 4) would completely dominate Superman.

I don't know where people get the idea that Goku would get owned in the higher levels of Super Saiyan.  Perhaps they should actually read the manga first so you can see what it can actually do.
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   02-07-2009, 5:15 AM
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 FallenSurvivor wrote:
 BUSHNAK wrote:
There's been alot of controversy lately between fans of the series.

What's your opinion? Personally I hate Superman and know he would get owned by Goku.

Why? Superman is weak against Kryptonite and has to be far away from his homeworld to have any sort of powers.


Ah, this topic again.  This debate between Superman and Goku is bound to never end, thanks to fanboys and fangirls of both.  Though, I will offer my unbiased opinion on this matter in an effort to show some light to this debate.

First, lets evaluate the speed of the two.  Superman, obviously, moves faster than a modern bullet nowadays.  Goku can move the same speed by teleporting, reaching much faster super speeds in higher Super Saiyan levels.  Though, even in his normal form, Goku would have the advantage.  He has the ability to move at the speed of light (Instant Transmission).

Now we get to the biggest part of it, strength.  Superman is, no doubt, amazingly powerful.  Any modern weapons can not harm him.  He also has the power to destroy a planet if he really wanted to.  Goku, on the other hand, has different strength levels from Super Saiyan transformations.  In his normal form, modern weapons also do not harm him, and he still has the power to destroy a planet to (refer to the Saiyan Saga if you do not believe me).  Even so, Superman would most definitely overpower Goku in his nomal form from sheer power.  Goku would have to use Kaio Ken x20 to put up a fight and even it out a little, but it couldn't be maintained.  Once transformed into a Super Saiyan, though, the actual battle would begin.

Most people increasingly underestimate the true power of the Super Saiyan transformation.  Remember that Goku had mastered the transformation, and can use it effectively by draining near-zero energy to maintain it.  In this state, Goku's normal speed is past Superman's (for a number answer, both fighters had the same speed in his normal state, and the Super Saiyan transformation multiplies Goku's strength and speed by about fifty).  Pure power wise, Goku again has the lead on Superman.  You have to realize exactly what Goku has accomplished in only his Super Saiyan transformation to realize exactly how much he had improved in the entire series.  Remember he killed Kid Buu, the strongest being in the galexy, in only the first Super Saiyan transformation with the Spirit Bomb.

And as for if the planet blew up, remember that Goku can move at light speed, and would just use his Instant Transmission technique to move to another habitable planet, either one he had been to or the Kai's worlds.

So in closing, Superman would beat Goku in his untransformed state, Goku having to use Kaio Ken just to keep up.  But once transformed into Super Saiyan, he would control the fight.  If all else failed, the higher levels of Super Saiyan (2, 3, and 4) would completely dominate Superman.

I don't know where people get the idea that Goku would get owned in the higher levels of Super Saiyan.  Perhaps they should actually read the manga first so you can see what it can actually do.
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   02-08-2009, 6:07 PM
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 OKLAHOMAxNATIVE wrote:
 bE rAd 82 wrote:
 OKLAHOMAxNATIVE wrote:
Goku could kick superman into outer space then he would die of no oxygen.
I doubt it. Superman is pretty fast and thus evasive. Also, Supes don't need oxygen!
If that was true then his race would have survived that planet explosion. All goku would have to do is shove some kryptonite up supermans butt then kick him into outer space then superman would die.


Oh btw eh Kryptonite does no longer work on any Superman anymore

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   02-09-2009, 9:51 PM
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 darktake wrote:
 OKLAHOMAxNATIVE wrote:
 bE rAd 82 wrote:
 OKLAHOMAxNATIVE wrote:
Goku could kick superman into outer space then he would die of no oxygen.
I doubt it. Superman is pretty fast and thus evasive. Also, Supes don't need oxygen!
If that was true then his race would have survived that planet explosion. All goku would have to do is shove some kryptonite up supermans butt then kick him into outer space then superman would die.


Oh btw eh Kryptonite does no longer work on any Superman anymore

Superman does not need oxygen.  His people could not survive in space because they had no powers.  Our yellow sun is what gives him his powers.  There was no yellow sun near Krypton.
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