I played about 15 ranked matches today, about 12 were either kilik or cervantes. No joke. Can anybody actually play as anybody else or are we having a "i'm so pro because I can teleport and use someone who takes 5 minutes to learn the how to use" pandemic?

Should take you about 30 seconds to learn how to beat someone that's only doing 1 move, right?

Play against people from here, or find people on 8wayrun.com and try to play offline.  Complaining about random matchmaking in any game is like digging up a dead horse just to beat it some more.

I'm not saying is difficult to beat them, i'm saying what's the point of playing online if they all use two characters, hell with cervantes they ring themselves out half the time. I think i'll just play player from now on, i've got all the online achievements anyway.

I still don't see why people complain about Cervantes.  He's really not that great of a character online or offline.  The teleports can be both counter-hit with the right move and you can see them coming a mile away.  And to be honest, I don't really see that many Cervantes players online since people learned to side-step all of his teleport moves.  I play Cervantes a good amount of the time and almost never use his teleport moves cuz they are horrible, offline they are even worse, cuz they can be guard impacted with ease.

As for Kilik, it really can't be helped.  Take KowTow's advice.

...and that's why it's all about the player matches when it comes to online.

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 MokuPhu wrote:

I still don't see why people complain about Cervantes.  He's really not that great of a character online or offline.  The teleports can be both counter-hit with the right move and you can see them coming a mile away.  And to be honest, I don't really see that many Cervantes players online since people learned to side-step all of his teleport moves.  I play Cervantes a good amount of the time and almost never use his teleport moves cuz they are horrible, offline they are even worse, cuz they can be guard impacted with ease.

Its all the difference between a "B" player and an "A" player.  A "B" player Cervantes may know what hes doing but he's garbage, not fast enough to buffer his attacks.   The same goes with all the characters.  An "A" player of any character can be a lot of trouble because they can strike and chain their combos quickly.  An "A" player Cervy, in my opinion, is among the cheapest characters in the game.

I also have trouble with "A" quality sigfried's.

 MokuPhu wrote:

I still don't see why people complain about Cervantes.  He's really not that great of a character online or offline.  The teleports can be both counter-hit with the right move and you can see them coming a mile away.  And to be honest, I don't really see that many Cervantes players online since people learned to side-step all of his teleport moves.  I play Cervantes a good amount of the time and almost never use his teleport moves cuz they are horrible, offline they are even worse, cuz they can be guard impacted with ease.

As for Kilik, it really can't be helped.  Take KowTow's advice.

Lol I play aggressively so I don't guard impact often and it gets annoying.

Add in the slight lag factor from my stupid connection and voila, guard impact is out of the question for me.

Anyway since most of the players use these two chars, they won't be used to seeing an odd one out.

Lots of new players find it difficult to deal with my Sophita. Then again I don't even see Cassandra being played! =/

 Operati0nZer0 wrote:

 MokuPhu wrote:

I still don't see why people complain about Cervantes.  He's really not that great of a character online or offline.  The teleports can be both counter-hit with the right move and you can see them coming a mile away.  And to be honest, I don't really see that many Cervantes players online since people learned to side-step all of his teleport moves.  I play Cervantes a good amount of the time and almost never use his teleport moves cuz they are horrible, offline they are even worse, cuz they can be guard impacted with ease.

As for Kilik, it really can't be helped.  Take KowTow's advice.

Lol I play aggressively so I don't guard impact often and it gets annoying.

Add in the slight lag factor from my stupid connection and voila, guard impact is out of the question for me.

Anyway since most of the players use these two chars, they won't be used to seeing an odd one out.

Lots of new players find it difficult to deal with my Sophita. Then again I don't even see Cassandra being played! =/

well, do you spam her lows?

because that would be annoying.

 Rikuto Kuronaga wrote:

 Operati0nZer0 wrote:

 MokuPhu wrote:

I still don't see why people complain about Cervantes.  He's really not that great of a character online or offline.  The teleports can be both counter-hit with the right move and you can see them coming a mile away.  And to be honest, I don't really see that many Cervantes players online since people learned to side-step all of his teleport moves.  I play Cervantes a good amount of the time and almost never use his teleport moves cuz they are horrible, offline they are even worse, cuz they can be guard impacted with ease.

As for Kilik, it really can't be helped.  Take KowTow's advice.

Lol I play aggressively so I don't guard impact often and it gets annoying.

Add in the slight lag factor from my stupid connection and voila, guard impact is out of the question for me.

Anyway since most of the players use these two chars, they won't be used to seeing an odd one out.

Lots of new players find it difficult to deal with my Sophita. Then again I don't even see Cassandra being played! =/

well, do you spam her lows?

because that would be annoying.

Well after they start blocking medium and high attacks, the only way to press on with more damage is to grab him or to do a low attack. =P

So a combination of tricky high, low, medium, grabs and while rising moves are what I have to use. =P

I can't waste for christmas for a critical finish now can I? Lol.

 zx NightWolf xz wrote:

I played about 15 ranked matches today, about 12 were either kilik or cervantes. No joke. Can anybody actually play as anybody else or are we having a "i'm so pro because I can teleport and use someone who takes 5 minutes to learn the how to use" pandemic?

When I first started playing (off line), I really wanted to be Mitsurugi.  I have a kenjitsu and kendo background, so my first half dozen custom characters were based on this style.  I discovered Kilik and have not gone back.  ...maybe his moves are easier to learn, I don't know either way.  I defeated the tower of lost souls with this style only, not using any 'tricks' or 'spams', but only a patient and thoughtful fighting style using what I call a "bo", although it is more likely a "gun" due to Kilik being trained in a Chinese style and not a Japanese style.  I hope you take no issue with my fighting style.  I do not always win.  I just started playing on line and have about a 60% win ratio in ranked Regular Versus.  In Special Versus I have zero wins and 10 losses. :( :) 

My point is this.  People have the freedom to be whichever character they choose and it's based on personal preference.  People have some goofy appearances, too, but that is also personal preference. I look at every match as a challenge and respectfully thank the other person when the match is over.  Trash talking is not my thing and neither is complaining.  It is just a game, after all. :)  A very cool game, mind you, but not important enough to cause any rifts among people.  Maybe that's idealistic, but who said idealism is a bad thing LOL.  If you hate those two fighting styles so much, then just hold the X ball down and exit when you see that style chosen.  I would consider that a rude thing to do, but so is criticizing another person's free will and choice about a game character they choose to be without having walked a mile in their tabi. :)

...just one guy's opinion.

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I don't think the OP is sick of "losing" to Cervantes...just sick of facing the same character, period.  I put up with the same crapola on SF4 facing the usual Sagat/Ken/Blanka/Zangief out of 21 other characters to choose from, while I'm using a tougher to use Fei Long.  Sure it's nice getting tons of practice with a few characters so that they start to become easier & easier to beat, but some of us just wonder why there seem to be more people out there that only care about winning and using an easy to use high tiered character over actually challenging oneself to take on characters with steeper learning curves for the sake of providing more balanced online match ups.  And not so steep that it would only take a week or two of adjustments at the most.  Learning a new character is like a cold glass of water in the dry well of complacency.

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Well after they start blocking medium and high attacks, the only way to press on with more damage is to grab him or to do a low attack. =P So a combination of tricky high, low, medium, grabs and while rising moves are what I have to use. =P I can't waste for christmas for a critical finish now can I? Lol.

You havn't heard of frame advantage have you.

Well, I think the problem lies with the level 20 ranked achievement.   Whenever people only care about achievements they're going to take the easiest route to get it.  With lag and whatnot, that route is probably Kilik.  shrug

It doesn't bother me too much, though...while Kilik is over-represented I still see other players in Ranked and I have plenty to learn from playing against Kilik, anyway. 

     I cant even play online anymore. I love a good fighting game but i cant get great at it. I had the same problem the other day. Me VS a guy that used Kilik (Only knew one move) and Cervantes who knew 3 moves. Kilik was easy to beat but i couldn't read Cervantes. I get totaled now because i want to play as my favorite character Lizard Man. Because whats more fun than being an oversized lizard in Armor with a Axe and a Shield? Its like the Dane Cook skit about getting a monkey in armor and fighting it. But instead of fighting the monkey YOU are the monkey.
     I dont want to be someone else just because someone is more conserned with winning more than having fun. And for the record I hardly use his crawl attacks because they are a tad cheap if you dont know how to block them. But one guy made my day when i did a unblockable move ( Lizard Man rolls into you) and he JUMPED over me. About 70% of players get confused when i start to do the attack and start guarding like it was a regular low attack.

 Operati0nZer0 wrote:

 MokuPhu wrote:

I still don't see why people complain about Cervantes.  He's really not that great of a character online or offline.  The teleports can be both counter-hit with the right move and you can see them coming a mile away.  And to be honest, I don't really see that many Cervantes players online since people learned to side-step all of his teleport moves.  I play Cervantes a good amount of the time and almost never use his teleport moves cuz they are horrible, offline they are even worse, cuz they can be guard impacted with ease.

As for Kilik, it really can't be helped.  Take KowTow's advice.

Lol I play aggressively so I don't guard impact often and it gets annoying.

Add in the slight lag factor from my stupid connection and voila, guard impact is out of the question for me.

Anyway since most of the players use these two chars, they won't be used to seeing an odd one out.

Lots of new players find it difficult to deal with my Sophita. Then again I don't even see Cassandra being played! =/

I play as Cassandra

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man i dont see why kilik gets bashed so much.i use him.Y? cuz im a fan of the bo staff.but anyone who fights me knows that i blast his reputation out of the water.i play himtotally in ur face with more combos than namco intended,including My,25 hit wall combo.but the thing is its so hard to put together.the answers arent there like they are with sieg and mitsu cerv etc. dont get me wrong,use who u want.were all just havin fun and playin a game that most streetfighter types cant handle.but this kilik thing needs to be laid to rest......................and yoda u can kiss my whole-quantum singularity-hole!!

 SEF ZERO wrote:

man i dont see why kilik gets bashed so much.i use him.Y? cuz im a fan of the bo staff.but anyone who fights me knows that i blast his reputation out of the water.i play himtotally in ur face with more combos than namco intended,including My,25 hit wall combo.but the thing is its so hard to put together.the answers arent there like they are with sieg and mitsu cerv etc. dont get me wrong,use who u want.were all just havin fun and playin a game that most streetfighter types cant handle.but this kilik thing needs to be laid to rest......................

X2,

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