A1 KILL SAUCE wrote:What they need for the next TES is some sort of co-op. That's it imo. That would make it so damn fun.What do you think?
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Co-op would be super *** and would ruin the experience of what the elder scrolls is all about. If the next elder scrolls has co-op or is a mmorpg I would be both extremely shocked and very disappointed. If it’s a mmorpg I will flat out not buy the game. If it has co-op I will never play it. Look at Fable 2. The co-op was absolute garbage. If Bethesda were to do some sort of co-op, that would divert focus away from making the main part of the game really great. I don’t know why I’m even saying this. I’m almost completely positive that tes5 won’t be a mmorpg and it won’t have co-op. The thing I want the most though is for Bethesda to announce the god damn game already. I wanna see a trailer or something. And in terms of what I want to see in the next game, I would like improved combat in every area (fighting,spells,arrows) and I want to see maybe some sort of animal companion, like a wolf or bear. Also I want to be able to get all the unique items and artifacts in the elder scrolls lore, not just some of them as was the case in Oblivion.
Kimbo Fife wrote: . If it has co-op I will never play it. Look at Fable 2. The co-op was absolute garbage. If Bethesda were to do some sort of co-op, that would divert focus away from making the main part of the game really great. I don’t know why I’m even saying this. I’m almost completely positive that tes5 won’t be a mmorpg and it won’t have co-op. The thing I want the most though is for Bethesda to announce the god damn game already. I wanna see a trailer or something. And in terms of what I want to see in the next game,
. If it has co-op I will never play it. Look at Fable 2. The co-op was absolute garbage. If Bethesda were to do some sort of co-op, that would divert focus away from making the main part of the game really great. I don’t know why I’m even saying this. I’m almost completely positive that tes5 won’t be a mmorpg and it won’t have co-op. The thing I want the most though is for Bethesda to announce the god damn game already. I wanna see a trailer or something. And in terms of what I want to see in the next game,
Pharaoh X360 wrote:Stop being so CO-OP nazi-ish. Even a couch co-op would be fun, it isn't really all that fun when my friend is over and we have to watch each other play. If they can pull it off great, if it becomes another two worlds, then no I can deal w/o. Besides many games HAVE pulled off co-op really well, GoW for example did it as close to perfect as any I've seen.
Kyle 1310 wrote: Pharaoh X360 wrote:Stop being so CO-OP nazi-ish. Even a couch co-op would be fun, it isn't really all that fun when my friend is over and we have to watch each other play. If they can pull it off great, if it becomes another two worlds, then no I can deal w/o. Besides many games HAVE pulled off co-op really well, GoW for example did it as close to perfect as any I've seen.fable 2 sucked on co-op cuz one screen. you couldnt do anything
Oblivion and Morrowind were such massive games, that if co-op were implemented them, it would ruin the experience. I mean, what about leveling? What if your buddy is level 49 and your lvl 3? Scamps and Xivilais would be running around, killing the fun for the lvl 3. And how about factions, fame, quests, the whole nine yards. You can't have two archmages, or two Gray Foxes. What about DLC's? Over Xbox live? NO. All the great aspects of the games would be missing. It just can't happen. It's like diving off the Chrysler building. It'd be a huge, terrible mess.
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PH 6674 wrote: All the great aspects of the games would be missing. It just can't happen. It's like diving off the Chrysler building. It'd be a huge, terrible mess.
All the great aspects of the games would be missing. It just can't happen. It's like diving off the Chrysler building. It'd be a huge, terrible mess.
This dude knows what he’s talking about. Implementing co-op to the game or making it a mmorpg would completely destroy what the Elder Scrolls is all about. You people need to stop dreaming anyway. Bethesda knows better than to ruin their flagship game with co-op or online play. If you want that go play wow or something and stop posting you’re ridiculous ideas all over the internet. God forbid Bethesda actually listens to you and ruins the game.
P.S. – Arthazal Olorin, your ideas are straight up stone cold wack.
Arthazal Olorin wrote:Stunning insights Kimbo. . . and such illuminating vocabulary. And while you are welcome to your opinions, it would be nice if you stopped playing Stalin and trying to tell other people what to do and how to do it. Co-op would destroy nothing. What an idiotic notion. The game is not all about being solitary. It is all about experiencing a massive secondary world and sword/sorcery lore heavy gaming experience with depth and verisimilitude. The OPTION of being able to add a friend to the mix from time to time is A. just that, only an option, not mandatory, and thus not able to RUIN anything without your consent, and B. can add great depth and enjoyment for the many who desire it.
Death knowz...you sir, are a god.
death knowz wrote: Arthazal Olorin wrote: Stunning insights Kimbo. . . and such illuminating vocabulary. And while you are welcome to your opinions, it would be nice if you stopped playing Stalin and trying to tell other people what to do and how to do it. Co-op would destroy nothing. What an idiotic notion. The game is not all about being solitary. It is all about experiencing a massive secondary world and sword/sorcery lore heavy gaming experience with depth and verisimilitude. The OPTION of being able to add a friend to the mix from time to time is A. just that, only an option, not mandatory, and thus not able to RUIN anything without your consent, and B. can add great depth and enjoyment for the many who desire it.Correct. What is mandatory is what takes precedence when designing anything. The Elder Scrolls doesn't need multiplayer. At all. It got this far without it, so why should it?Do not fix, what is not broken.And do you even have friends to play co-op with, mister Mercator maps?
Arthazal Olorin wrote: Stunning insights Kimbo. . . and such illuminating vocabulary. And while you are welcome to your opinions, it would be nice if you stopped playing Stalin and trying to tell other people what to do and how to do it. Co-op would destroy nothing. What an idiotic notion. The game is not all about being solitary. It is all about experiencing a massive secondary world and sword/sorcery lore heavy gaming experience with depth and verisimilitude. The OPTION of being able to add a friend to the mix from time to time is A. just that, only an option, not mandatory, and thus not able to RUIN anything without your consent, and B. can add great depth and enjoyment for the many who desire it.
PH 6674 wrote: Arthazal Olorin wrote: Stunning insights Kimbo. . . and such illuminating vocabulary. And while you are welcome to your opinions, it would be nice if you stopped playing Stalin and trying to tell other people what to do and how to do it. Co-op would destroy nothing. What an idiotic notion. The game is not all about being solitary. It is all about experiencing a massive secondary world and sword/sorcery lore heavy gaming experience with depth and verisimilitude. The OPTION of being able to add a friend to the mix from time to time is A. just that, only an option, not mandatory, and thus not able to RUIN anything without your consent, and B. can add great depth and enjoyment for the many who desire it.The option of adding a friend is NOT "A". It's an option, sure, but why should Bethesda stray away from the things they do best? They should try to improve combat, physics, and minor bugs, not implement a co-op option. Even in co-op, most of the singleplayer aspects would be stripped. It would not work. If you want to play and MMO, feel free. TES is not going to have co-op, no matter how much you want to because it would be a mess. I would rather have a much smoother singleplayer game that focuses on depth and detail, rather than a shabby singleplayer game with a crappy, limited co-op.
Arthazal Olorin wrote: PH 6674 wrote: Arthazal Olorin wrote: Stunning insights Kimbo. . . and such illuminating vocabulary. And while you are welcome to your opinions, it would be nice if you stopped playing Stalin and trying to tell other people what to do and how to do it. Co-op would destroy nothing. What an idiotic notion. The game is not all about being solitary. It is all about experiencing a massive secondary world and sword/sorcery lore heavy gaming experience with depth and verisimilitude. The OPTION of being able to add a friend to the mix from time to time is A. just that, only an option, not mandatory, and thus not able to RUIN anything without your consent, and B. can add great depth and enjoyment for the many who desire it.The option of adding a friend is NOT "A". It's an option, sure, but why should Bethesda stray away from the things they do best? They should try to improve combat, physics, and minor bugs, not implement a co-op option. Even in co-op, most of the singleplayer aspects would be stripped. It would not work. If you want to play and MMO, feel free. TES is not going to have co-op, no matter how much you want to because it would be a mess. I would rather have a much smoother singleplayer game that focuses on depth and detail, rather than a shabby singleplayer game with a crappy, limited co-op.I have no particular interest in MMOs at this time, actually. . . add the option for the same reason one adds any option. . . because there is a significant population that desires it. Admittedly that must be weighed against whether the addition is possible, feasible etc. A simple co-op form probably is both. What single player aspects are you suggesting would be stripped? And why would they be stripped? Stating that something would not work without very detailed supportive rationale is an empty and idle statement. It would be a mess? What does that even mean? Why would it be a mess>? In what ways? Where is the clear evidence that singleplayer would become shabby. My hope would be for all the great aspects of the game to be maintained. The only additive would be the option of having a drop in local partner, when and if desired. Now if you are saying there would be major technical problems, that is another matter, and if that can be proven beyond doubt, it must be taken into account. Yet if you are saying, as the writing implies, that a co-op mode would ruin the singleplayer mode merely by existing. . . well that is just illogical fool talk.
Arthazal Olorin wrote:Having two champions of Cyrodil actually would not be so hard at all. .. Lots of stories have multiple heroes, especially epic saga . . .two arena Champions or two Archmages would be more of a feat. And even that is not beyond management. Many Governments are diarchal in nature. . . many more are actually Oligarchies, where a small cabal sit in authority . . . rather like. . . An Elder Coucnil
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