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   08-17-2009, 6:03 PM
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What would you want to see in Armored Core 5?
If they made another Armored Core game, what would you want it to have?

I would want actuall Split-Screen co-op, more parts, the glitch to be taken off the rifles so people can stop complaining, more multiplayer levels, downloadable content, keep the multiple-ending story (which is cool because it tests your morals), make it easier to find friends who are playing, and not so many achievements which can only be obtained through fighting others online (defeat 10,000 opponants online, are you kidding me?).
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   08-20-2009, 3:55 PM
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it not to be a sega product
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   08-20-2009, 7:59 PM
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i want faster load times for changing mech , at least two good regulations where one thing doesent dominate another and alot , more parts and customizaiton
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   08-21-2009, 9:52 PM
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  1. Clan Support; We should be able to do the same thing Chromehounds has been enjoying for 3 years
  2. Better coop; shouldnt have limitations to whom we can play what with. I understand the story needs you to play solo every so often but they shouldnt stop us from playing a mission with a friend just because they havent done it yet. It forces you to play through the whole campaign alone (or with a stranger), then have to do it again... and again.
  3. Give us more incentive to play ranked matches. Im not enjoying having to play through the game on hard just to further tune my AC... they should make it possible to collect memory points and credits (though theres no point seeing as they give you all the parts at the end) from winning ranked matches. Make it interesting!
  4. Improve online menu and lobby; the set up reminds me of DOS... if you were comparing it to Vista. Very uninspired, boring and very much useless
  5. DLC; though this will only happen if the game sells. If it doesnt move units, theres no profit in it for MS or FromSoftware, which means they arent going to bother.
  6. Better Maps; Larger and more of them please... Stop force feeding us left overs from the last version of the game. Step it up!
  7. Advertise; I didnt even know this game came out until 3 months after the fact...
  8. Better achievements; my goodness, 10,000 kills and wins?! Do you know how long it takes to just take one AC down thats piloted by a good player?! Forget battle royals, you have less than a 15% chance of winning those things, statistically speaking. lol

There are a lot of little things that can be improved on or added. I'd like to see visible battle damage (just visible, not practical) and a more dramatic effect of losing. Like falling down full ragdoll style or getting blown back through a buildings. Something more than just falling like a stone into a kneeling position. Game is fun, but it needs work to be great.


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   08-21-2009, 9:54 PM
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 iTz Blackdragon wrote:
i want faster load times for changing mech , at least two good regulations where one thing doesent dominate another and alot , more parts and customizaiton


try loading the game onto your HDD... It runs A LOT, faster. Though I feel what your saying. In the PS days you were able to simply cycle through your builds with the shoulder buttons from the garage screen.
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   08-22-2009, 5:43 PM
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 PriceTag2K wrote:
  1. Clan Support; We should be able to do the same thing Chromehounds has been enjoying for 3 years
  2. Better coop; shouldnt have limitations to whom we can play what with. I understand the story needs you to play solo every so often but they shouldnt stop us from playing a mission with a friend just because they havent done it yet. It forces you to play through the whole campaign alone (or with a stranger), then have to do it again... and again.
  3. Give us more incentive to play ranked matches. Im not enjoying having to play through the game on hard just to further tune my AC... they should make it possible to collect memory points and credits (though theres no point seeing as they give you all the parts at the end) from winning ranked matches. Make it interesting!
  4. Improve online menu and lobby; the set up reminds me of DOS... if you were comparing it to Vista. Very uninspired, boring and very much useless
  5. DLC; though this will only happen if the game sells. If it doesnt move units, theres no profit in it for MS or FromSoftware, which means they arent going to bother.
  6. Better Maps; Larger and more of them please... Stop force feeding us left overs from the last version of the game. Step it up!
  7. Advertise; I didnt even know this game came out until 3 months after the fact...
  8. Better achievements; my goodness, 10,000 kills and wins?! Do you know how long it takes to just take one AC down thats piloted by a good player?! Forget battle royals, you have less than a 15% chance of winning those things, statistically speaking. lol

There are a lot of little things that can be improved on or added. I'd like to see visible battle damage (just visible, not practical) and a more dramatic effect of losing. Like falling down full ragdoll style or getting blown back through a buildings. Something more than just falling like a stone into a kneeling position. Game is fun, but it needs work to be great.



how about recode chromehounds and change it into AC5?

chromehounds great online play.. man i miss it
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   08-24-2009, 2:11 PM
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To be honest yet a bit silly...less missile and grenade domination..LOL. So many people just spam missles on you. And you can pretty much solo most missions with a decent greanade build. But i do love the explosion the grenades give off, that's pretty. :3

OR...more match customization. Like..can only use certain weapons/not use certain weapons, but above all..BETTER COMMUNICATION. You don't even know who's talking half the time..think someone said that already tho. Not sure. ;x
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   08-28-2009, 11:23 PM
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The ability to use all of the characters available to you would be nice, and being able to use the SPACE button would also be nice. Whoever goofed on that needs to be slapped for not making a patch. Sheesh. Hell, the few US'ers who are on the Ranker Leaderboards look like THEYxxxxARExxxxSCREAMING or LikeTheyDoNotKnowOfTheSpaceButton.

Some more emblem choices would be nice. You can make a good amount of stuff as is, but some more things like letters and numbers wouldn't hurt.

Some DLC would also be cool. Part packs, map packs, mission packs, etc. 400-800 MS points would be fair for pricing (depending on the DLC). Plus that's more money for FS and MS, and more stuff for us the players. Win-win.

Being able to join a Player Match in session would be a big help. Many games allow their players to join games that have already started, so I do not see why AC couldn't allow this. I really don't like having to wait for 10 minutes for my friends to finish a respawn match.

That's all that comes to mind at the moment. 


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   09-19-2009, 8:43 PM
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Re: What would you want to see in Armored Core 5?
For them to bring back some more of the old parts.  Exceed Orbits, not necessarily in the core, but maybe as an extension part.  Shield Extension, I know we have PA enhancers, but maybe some that use energy and increase the PA durability a lot more.  They could have a time and use limit.  30sec and 3 uses.  Maybe they could even bring back the inside parts.

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   09-21-2009, 8:18 AM
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 Xiroku wrote:
To be honest yet a bit silly...less missile and grenade domination..LOL. So many people just spam missles on you. And you can pretty much solo most missions with a decent greanade build. But i do love the explosion the grenades give off, that's pretty. :3

OR...more match customization. Like..can only use certain weapons/not use certain weapons, but above all..BETTER COMMUNICATION. You don't even know who's talking half the time..think someone said that already tho. Not sure. ;x
the missiles dont really dominate ,simply because if your got rifles you can blow em up in their face. i want more damage from rockets and better tracking , and if it blow in my face i want slightly a lil less damage cause if they hit the other guy they really dont do much, but the blow up in my face it's like a kojima went off right next to me .
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   10-14-2009, 10:37 PM
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A real time/active war to control territories as on Chromehounds----only drawback would be BOOSTERS that would take the fun out of it. 
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   10-15-2009, 4:24 PM
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Well, do you guys think there would be any major changes.  Like when it went from AC to NEXT.  I would like the game to be more Gundam like though, mech wise anyways.  But that's because there's not really that many Gundam games that are playable in the same way like Armored Core.

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   10-15-2009, 5:46 PM
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 Gundam5788 wrote:
Well, do you guys think there would be any major changes.  Like when it went from AC to NEXT.  I would like the game to be more Gundam like though, mech wise anyways.  But that's because there's not really that many Gundam games that are playable in the same way like Armored Core.
i think it played great for for answer and 4 i want less stupid regulations like 1.3 &1.4 they made the ac's so slow, and they could barely pack any weight it was the worst regulations ever
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   10-16-2009, 5:11 PM
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 iTz Blackdragon wrote:
 Gundam5788 wrote:
Well, do you guys think there would be any major changes.  Like when it went from AC to NEXT.  I would like the game to be more Gundam like though, mech wise anyways.  But that's because there's not really that many Gundam games that are playable in the same way like Armored Core.
i think it played great for for answer and 4 i want less stupid regulations like 1.3 &1.4 they made the ac's so slow, and they could barely pack any weight it was the worst regulations ever


The whole point of the regulations is to give the players choice. Should people want the game slower, there is 1.30 and 1.40, and for those who want the game faster there are the other regulations. The regulations are all optional, not a must. If anything it helps keep everyone happy.

As for AC's going Gundam I disagree. I say let the AC's be AC's and Gundams be Gundams. Now if there are parts put into an add-on that look Gundam, that's cool. Though the beam swords would be a plus...


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   10-16-2009, 10:45 PM
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I didn't mean any dramatic changes to be like Gundam.  I just meant performance wise.  Mainly mobility.  Where you don't have to rely on quick boost as much.  Also, better flight capability.  They should also add ways to customize an AC without changing performance.

I do think beam swords would be easier to use rather than the arm attachments.  They could at least add better close combat ability.

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   10-16-2009, 11:11 PM
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 Gundam5788 wrote:
I didn't mean any dramatic changes to be like Gundam.  I just meant performance wise.  Mainly mobility.  Where you don't have to rely on quick boost as much.  Also, better flight capability.  They should also add ways to customize an AC without changing performance.

I do think beam swords would be easier to use rather than the arm attachments.  They could at least add better close combat ability.
then why did they make the 1.30 the default for ranked matches....... and a beam sword would be sweet
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   10-22-2009, 3:48 AM
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 iTz Blackdragon wrote:
 Gundam5788 wrote:
I didn't mean any dramatic changes to be like Gundam.  I just meant performance wise.  Mainly mobility.  Where you don't have to rely on quick boost as much.  Also, better flight capability.  They should also add ways to customize an AC without changing performance.

I do think beam swords would be easier to use rather than the arm attachments.  They could at least add better close combat ability.
then why did they make the 1.30 the default for ranked matches....... and a beam sword would be sweet


The mobility and quick boost part I totally agree with, however due to the entire setup of the game as is, quick boost is some what of a must. Weapons like Grenades would probably rip players to shreds with less quick boost. If the new game gets (and it should get IMO) an overhaul on all of the stats, this concept would probably make the game feel a bit more like the older AC games, and less reliability on the quick boost could be better for the game.

Now for the regulations being default on Ranked I think it is a bit lame, but it is because they have only one Ranked area, rather than several. If they had an area for each regulation that would be neat. This way players could play in the regulation they enjoy and be ranked in that area, rather than catch players off-guard that have mechs for a different regulation then they are playing. More or less that is probably why the regulations are kept to the current rather than allowing people to pick. Plus they probably want people to play the regulation they worked on, though it shouldn't be forced on to others just because there are "new rules" to play by.
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   10-27-2009, 2:32 PM
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Organic enemies, alien race something to change it up a bit put a new spin on things.
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   10-27-2009, 10:37 PM
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Organic enemies, alien race something to change it up a bit put a new spin on things.
lame, more mobile mechs, and greater sense of dammage taken or given, u know like ur arm can be blown off, or a shot to the head disables your next
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   10-28-2009, 1:24 AM
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 iTz Blackdragon wrote:
 Day Lo wrote:
Organic enemies, alien race something to change it up a bit put a new spin on things.
lame, more mobile mechs, and greater sense of dammage taken or given, u know like ur arm can be blown off, or a shot to the head disables your next

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   10-28-2009, 2:41 PM
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There's been organic enemies before.  There were aliens creatures, people too I think, in AC3.  They should allow visible damage too, which has also been done before.  As far as a head shot, I think it should just disrupt visuals rather than disable the next.  I believe a Gundam can fight without a head.

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   10-29-2009, 3:45 AM
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There's been organic enemies before.  There were aliens creatures, people too I think, in AC3.  They should allow visible damage too, which has also been done before.  As far as a head shot, I think it should just disrupt visuals rather than disable the next.  I believe a Gundam can fight without a head.
a gundam cannot fight without a head, clearly you've never seen G gundam, where if the head gets taken off the match is over 1. cause thats a lethal hit 2. the mech is demobilized
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   10-29-2009, 10:07 AM
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 Gundam5788 wrote:
There's been organic enemies before.  There were aliens creatures, people too I think, in AC3.  They should allow visible damage too, which has also been done before.  As far as a head shot, I think it should just disrupt visuals rather than disable the next.  I believe a Gundam can fight without a head.
a gundam cannot fight without a head, clearly you've never seen G gundam, where if the head gets taken off the match is over 1. cause thats a lethal hit 2. the mech is demobilized


Go watch Heavy gear... a mech in there who gets shot in the head just loses its visibility

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   10-29-2009, 1:05 PM
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 iTz Blackdragon wrote:
 Gundam5788 wrote:
There's been organic enemies before.  There were aliens creatures, people too I think, in AC3.  They should allow visible damage too, which has also been done before.  As far as a head shot, I think it should just disrupt visuals rather than disable the next.  I believe a Gundam can fight without a head.
a gundam cannot fight without a head, clearly you've never seen G gundam, where if the head gets taken off the match is over 1. cause thats a lethal hit 2. the mech is demobilized


Go watch Heavy gear... a mech in there who gets shot in the head just loses its visibility
WHAT WOULD be the point it would be like a chicken without its head running around firing rockets and randomly shootin bullets V.S a gundam............
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   10-29-2009, 9:12 PM
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 iTz Blackdragon wrote:
 Gundam5788 wrote:
There's been organic enemies before.  There were aliens creatures, people too I think, in AC3.  They should allow visible damage too, which has also been done before.  As far as a head shot, I think it should just disrupt visuals rather than disable the next.  I believe a Gundam can fight without a head.
a gundam cannot fight without a head, clearly you've never seen G gundam, where if the head gets taken off the match is over 1. cause thats a lethal hit 2. the mech is demobilized


In G Fighter Gundam, the mechs were either designed that war or other wise the fighting regulations stated the match was over. G Gundam was a series about arena fighting not a war.
Your average Mobile Suit's head contains seveal main sensor units, a comunications arar (the V or command spike of some models) and some times light weapons like a vulcan machine gun for missile defense or attacking likght targets. None of this is entierly vital though, as there are other cameras on the machine (like the weapon's scope) that can be sused iin the event thae man camera's been destroyed.
Case and point, the first Gundam prefermed quite well with no head towards the end of the first Gundam series and in The 08th MS Team (best freaking sereis ever BTW) one of the Gundams had it's head punched off and was later replaced with the head of a diferant mobile suit.

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   10-29-2009, 9:48 PM
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 iTz Blackdragon wrote:
 Gundam5788 wrote:
There's been organic enemies before.  There were aliens creatures, people too I think, in AC3.  They should allow visible damage too, which has also been done before.  As far as a head shot, I think it should just disrupt visuals rather than disable the next.  I believe a Gundam can fight without a head.
a gundam cannot fight without a head, clearly you've never seen G gundam, where if the head gets taken off the match is over 1. cause thats a lethal hit 2. the mech is demobilized


In G Fighter Gundam, the mechs were either designed that war or other wise the fighting regulations stated the match was over. G Gundam was a series about arena fighting not a war.
Your average Mobile Suit's head contains seveal main sensor units, a comunications arar (the V or command spike of some models) and some times light weapons like a vulcan machine gun for missile defense or attacking likght targets. None of this is entierly vital though, as there are other cameras on the machine (like the weapon's scope) that can be sused iin the event thae man camera's been destroyed.
Case and point, the first Gundam prefermed quite well with no head towards the end of the first Gundam series and in The 08th MS Team (best freaking sereis ever BTW) one of the Gundams had it's head punched off and was later replaced with the head of a diferant mobile suit.

Otakuman AWAY!!!!!!
**woosh***

Oh, and more arms forts on the scale of Spirit of Mother Will, and maybe a fight between 2 arms forts. Making Bazooka's and shotguns more versitile would also be awsome.
that may be true , but isn't multiplayer mode just fighting in an arena type match...don't answer yes it is therefor G Gundam rules would apply, and most of the time when the gundams head was taking off it cause other parts to explode in the process makin the gundam unusable. and your theory of lookin through the scope of the gun wouldn't be ideal, so what happens when that gun goes empty?
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   10-30-2009, 12:03 AM
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Well as mentioned before, in the first series Amuro manages to pilot the Gundam with no head.  He even mentions that it's just the main camera.  If anything, they can just make sure that the head is the hardest thing to destroy.  Especially since it's the smallest part of the NEXT.  Besides, in the heat of battle who would really have the time to keep shooting at the head anyway.

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   10-30-2009, 12:18 AM
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 Gundam5788 wrote:
Well as mentioned before, in the first series Amuro manages to pilot the Gundam with no head.  He even mentions that it's just the main camera.  If anything, they can just make sure that the head is the hardest thing to destroy.  Especially since it's the smallest part of the NEXT.  Besides, in the heat of battle who would really have the time to keep shooting at the head anyway.
the only way io could think if it was 4v4 and one mech had sniper canons on it, then it could pic some heads off
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   11-01-2009, 4:22 AM
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it not to be a sega product

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   11-06-2009, 2:33 AM
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what would be nice is if it had the gameplay of chromehounds where your team of mechs fight other mechs for supremacey of a company/country, since chromehounds seems to be going down onlinewise it would be nice if they at least incorporated some of its key features in the next armored core would be nice. them actually doing this is another story...

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