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Started by gappers at 06-30-2009 7:16 AM. Topic has 14 replies.
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   06-30-2009, 7:16 AM
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Gone for a minute and every 1 is crazy!
mike tyson is nothing to Ali. Ali was a far superior fighter than tyson all tyson was was a thug slugger who could not hit a babby sleeping! No skill just a brute with gloves. Ali had excellent hand and foot cordnation unlike tyson who had a tendency to trip on his self leaving him open for a storm of punchs. I give him 1 thing he could hit and hit hard but your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see. with me behind the wheel I would dust tyson off.
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   07-01-2009, 2:47 AM
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Come on now, gappers! I agree that Ali was a superior fighter, but it is going way out of line to say Tyson was nothing but "a brute with gloves" and had no skill. Tyson was great in what he did and in his prime was virtually unbeatable. He had his flaws, everyone does, but he was a great fighter.
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   07-03-2009, 12:22 AM
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Tyson was a brute and thats that. He had a decent hook and upper cut but when you try to compare him to ALI you are just wrong. Ali was in a class to his self. tyson had a very short reach and stance. watch his old fights he had to be up close. sometimes he would throw a lunge hook but like I said sometimes and his jab was awfull no comparrison to Ali. Ali cold dance around for 15 rounds if he had to he was an extraordinary athlette. He had a large repituar of punchs were tyson just basically tried to use his brute force to knock you out not really any skill involved other than just putting all his might in every punch and as for his bobbing and weaving just ask Buster Douglas how that blocking style effected him. and again not to say tyson was a complete bum fighter he did win and many times by 1st round knock outs and was the champ no doubt. But the people he fought were bums there selfs. None of them were the calibur fighter that Ali was. and thts all I will say about. Muhammad Ali is #1 Gappers is #2 Tyson is a Brute
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   07-03-2009, 2:00 PM
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Gapper, 90% of Ali's fights were boring as hell, because he would just dance around the ring, round after round, until the opponent started hitting him. Then he'd be like, oh ***, I might get beat, and would finally start throwing decent punches. For the vast majority of Ali's fights, you could start watching in the 8th round and you wouldn't miss a thing.  At least Tyson did some punching.
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   07-04-2009, 3:06 AM
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 gappers wrote:
Tyson was a brute and thats that. He had a decent hook and upper cut but when you try to compare him to ALI you are just wrong. Ali was in a class to his self. tyson had a very short reach and stance. watch his old fights he had to be up close. sometimes he would throw a lunge hook but like I said sometimes and his jab was awfull no comparrison to Ali. Ali cold dance around for 15 rounds if he had to he was an extraordinary athlette. He had a large repituar of punchs were tyson just basically tried to use his brute force to knock you out not really any skill involved other than just putting all his might in every punch and as for his bobbing and weaving just ask Buster Douglas how that blocking style effected him. and again not to say tyson was a complete bum fighter he did win and many times by 1st round knock outs and was the champ no doubt. But the people he fought were bums there selfs. None of them were the calibur fighter that Ali was. and thts all I will say about. Muhammad Ali is #1 Gappers is #2 Tyson is a Brute


Buster Douglas was a great fighter himself, but after that loss Tyson was never the same and that is what you may be going off. When Lennox Lewis beat him as well as Evander Holyfield. Before the Douglas fight, Tyson was very skilled and his bobbing and weaving was a very effective tactic.

Ali was a very boring fighter, and while I do agree he was a skilled, accomplished fighter, he is a bit overhyped as far as what he could do. He was a good boxer, sure, but Tyson really revolutionized for a long while when he was at his height.
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   07-04-2009, 1:52 PM
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If they both met in their prime Tyson would of KNOCKED him out within 6 rounds! The man was a Monster!!
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   07-04-2009, 10:45 PM
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 Super Red Devil wrote:
If they both met in their prime Tyson would of KNOCKED him out within 6 rounds! The man was a Monster!!




Muhhamad ali would kill tyson in his prime muhhamad ali was never knocked out once in his career accept maybe in 1980 when he got tko'd by larry holmes but thats when ali's was old and worn down. Tyson would not even be able to keep up with ali he would dance circles around tyson, just like foreman another legend with such great power just like tyson ali would use his power against them tyson would tire out and ali would knock him out what makes you think ali would get knocked out seriously hes never been knocked out before he has a great chin even foreman couldnt knock him out. A big loL@you.Just a Mike Tyson fan boy i have nothing against tyson i enjoyed his fights when i used to watch them but his bobbing and weaving tactics wouldnt work against one of the best heavyweights ever to walk the ring none of mike tysons uppercuts or hooks would even have any effect on Ali.
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   07-05-2009, 7:25 AM
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Henry cooper nearly knocked out Ali but the bell rang before Cooper could complete a knockout, and Ali was so dazed that his trainer, Angelo Dundee, cut his glove. Another had to be fetched, giving the future champion time to recover.

Look i know alot of people disagree but for me Ali was in the right place at the right time and also his character had alot to do with what he is remembered for today! Yes he is a legend for what he has achieved but in my opinion if Mike Tyson had the same bubbly personality than Ali and didnt take his eye of the ball with training and whatever else he got messed up in i believe he could of easily been the greatest of all time!

I know what ur saying about different styles and yes Ali was more pleasing on the eye with his fantastic ability to do what he liked but for me a hungry Mike Tyson would have had to much power and i think it would have sickened Ali in the later stages of the fight!

Yes Ali stopped forman who had pure strenth but tyson would not have just swung and swung like forman did that night, Tyson would have mixed things up more, and also Tyson was alot faster than Forman.

Its a real shame what happened to tyson but at the end of the day he brought it all on himself!
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   07-05-2009, 7:53 PM
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To say that Ali was boring is just insane, just like was said earlier Ali wooped foreman and wooped Frazier twice although he may have not knocked Frazier cold turkey he did foreman.  But if you ever listen to the commentary from the fight from Frazier and Ali they tell you that they boxed till there was nothing left.  You have never seen Tyson in a fight like this.  If Tyson were to fight foreman,frazier who ever in there prime from the golden days of boxing he would be in Trouble.  He never fought boxers of this caliber not to say the boxers of Tyson’s time were complete garbage but if you watch the old fights as I do there is just no comparison.  Frazier had a deadly bob and weave style that was murder he would have eaten Tyson alive Frazier was an awesome boxer his self notice I called him a boxer because he boxed.  He may have been a brute his self but he could throw some hands and hard.  As were Ali could sit back and study and measure until he was comfortable and the whole time he would dance, use his jab, or Repituar of punches and of course he would use the famous "Rope A Dope" to help him get comfortable and then when the time is right he would go for the kill.  Ali could smell blood.  And if you ever watch Tyson’s old fights you see that he would go in if his apponnet was on the ropes or in the corner he had no fooot work at all he was pretty much flat footed Smile [:)]. Tyson would also let his self be challenged by the crowd. As were Ali would be in his comfort zone he could dance around say 4-5 rounds jabbing throwing some uppercuts then maybe the 6-7round rope a dope a bit. Then go back to dancing and finish the job off.  This is called the "Sweet Science"Lightning [li]


They need to fix there commercial giving all these tyson fans false hope thinking that tyson could beat ali is just
insane he could'nt win if he caught ali sleeping in his bed.

MUHAMMAD ALI is number#1

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   07-05-2009, 9:14 PM
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I just found out the game is out. watched the videos on the game site. Holly Sh! tI wish I had the money for live and the game I would be champ right now.  you girls just practice I will be there. I feel like a kid waiting for christmas. Cool [H]
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   07-05-2009, 10:01 PM
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 gappers wrote:
I just found out the game is out. watched the videos on the game site. Holly Sh! tI wish I had the money for live and the game I would be champ right now.  you girls just practice I will be there. I feel like a kid waiting for christmas.





spoke to soon just went to the fnr4 forums and they said that there are no buttons.  They can keep it.
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   07-06-2009, 6:38 AM
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Henry cooper nearly knocked out Ali but the bell rang before Cooper could complete a knockout, and Ali was so dazed that his trainer, Angelo Dundee, cut his glove. Another had to be fetched, giving the future champion time to recover.

Look i know alot of people disagree but for me Ali was in the right place at the right time and also his character had alot to do with what he is remembered for today! Yes he is a legend for what he has achieved but in my opinion if Mike Tyson had the same bubbly personality than Ali and didnt take his eye of the ball with training and whatever else he got messed up in i believe he could of easily been the greatest of all time!

I know what ur saying about different styles and yes Ali was more pleasing on the eye with his fantastic ability to do what he liked but for me a hungry Mike Tyson would have had to much power and i think it would have sickened Ali in the later stages of the fight!

Yes Ali stopped forman who had pure strenth but tyson would not have just swung and swung like forman did that night, Tyson would have mixed things up more, and also Tyson was alot faster than Forman.

Its a real shame what happened to tyson but at the end of the day he brought it all on himself!



Mike Tysons cardio sucks lol how can you say he would take care of him in the later rounds muhammad ali could go 15 rounds no problem mike tyson wouldnt be able to last that long,and wouldnt be able to bob and weave through alis punches.Tyson would get gassed ali would floor him like he did to george foreman so save your fantasy about mike tyson beating ali it would never happen mike tyson has such a bad chin one good blow from ali good night iron mike tyson period. Yea tyson was faster then foreman but one shot from formans big uppercut goodnight mike lol. Mike Tyson was overrated most of his opponents were bumbs ali fought way more challenging fights then mike tyson.
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   07-06-2009, 12:51 PM
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The only reason Ali could last so long is because he didn't bother doing anything for the first six rounds of any fight.

Do you honestly find watching some behemoth dance around a ring for six or more rounds interesting? I want to see a fight, not 'the worlds most unsuitable ballerinas'. I have no doubt that Ali would've beaten Tyson if they were both in their prime, but Ali was plain boring for a huge percentage of his fights. I would far rather watch Tyson 'fight like a brute' than watch Ali prance around the ring and lean on the ropes for eight rounds.
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   08-15-2009, 6:57 AM
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Ali is good, but tyson has a special move the one where he bites your ear offWink [;)]
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   09-22-2009, 9:52 PM
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 FirstCru5ader wrote:
Ali is good, but tyson has a special move the one where he bites your ear off



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