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Started by iPonsay at 10-02-2009 8:00 PM. Topic has 8 replies.
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   10-02-2009, 8:00 PM
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With which characters have you taken the time to really "learn" them?
I love fighting games but I've really enjoyed getting really into them competitive-wise. All that talk about frames and so on and so forth somehow makes the experience too serious and less fun for me. However, I still love taking the time to load up training with a character and really get into the meat of their moves, learning their playstyle, combos, ect.

So my question is, with which character(s) have you become completely familiar with?

The only character I've gotten to really learn is Mitsurugi. Been playing as him since I first bought SC2 on the GC. When I used to play SC4 online, I would laugh at all the people who try to spam Mitsu because I had actually taken the time to learn moves and combos and I would easily win. Lately, since I've had a rekindled interest in SC4, I've been taking the time to learn Yoshimitsu, and wow---what a fun character Smile [:)]

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   10-03-2009, 7:30 PM
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For me it is also Mitsurugi. Been using him since the DreamCast version. I am not the best with Mitsu and I don't always use ALL of his moves but I can pull off ANYTHING he can do...I generally have found that a match can be won using whatever move is appropriate for the situation and one need not try to showcase every move a character can perform in the course of a single match. My new fav is Talim. I pretty much disregarded her til on a dare (well more of a challenge) I took her on a date to the training mode and was very pleasantly suprised. I like that her combos can branch in multiple directions confusing one's opponent. She has fast strikes and is a very manuverable character. I do have troubles with her against the characters with serious range like Kilik, Nightmare, Sig etc. Setsuka is also one who I have enjoyed although I am not quite as familiar with the whole range of her style...but her moves are SICK!
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   10-05-2009, 4:57 AM
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 iPonsay wrote:
I love fighting games but I've really enjoyed getting really into them competitive-wise. All that talk about frames and so on and so forth somehow makes the experience too serious and less fun for me. However, I still love taking the time to load up training with a character and really get into the meat of their moves, learning their playstyle, combos, ect.


Don't take the frame stuff too seriously, you don't need to know everyone's frame data to be effective.  What you SHOULD know, is that the game works at 60fps, and that stuff is designed around that, speed wise per move.  So if you know the speeds of a few basic moves, you can figure out the rest without knowing actual numbers.  The game does get tested for the speeds of actual moves, and character balance can depend on that to some extent. 

It really pays more dividends in situations up close, and it's learned gradually over time.  Not many people can absorb numbers from a spreadsheet of frame data and be an effective player just from that.  But if you know how to use it as a reference point for moves that are giving you trouble, or figuring out whether or not you can get free damage from blocking something, that's a good tool to have available.

It's not like seeing the Matrix or anything while playing lol, you're not thinking in numbers.  It just helps to narrow down and choose your options more effectively in the long term.  People that ignore it completely tend to do a lot of slow moves in situations where they should be interrupting with a quick poke, or using a move fast enough to guarantee damage.
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   10-05-2009, 2:33 PM
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Sophitia - I've been playing her since Soul Edge. I finally sat down with SC II and learned all her moves. I like her fighting style and am a reasonably good strategist with her moves. For me she is one of the best balanced characters for power, speed, and reach. I'm always comfortable playing her. She is my "old favorite" and I will probably continue to play her as long as Namco makes SC games.

Sigfried - I also played him Soul Edge, but I hated the Knightmare conversion. I am very glad to have him back in SC IV. I put the time in on IV to learn his moves and stances. My strategy isn't so good with him, but he hits hard and I can usually score enough surprise strikes with him to win. Plus I have some very powerful builds with him.

Amy - Amy impressed me as I was trying out all the characters. I liked her fencing better than Raphael's and her dark, depressed humor put a smirk on my face. I came back to learn her a little better and got sucked in - she is my new favorite character. She is a deception fighter, which is completely different than Sophie or Sigfried, so it was refreshing to play as her. She also has some very powerful moves if timed well, and I like her variety of parries. Her defence needs to be more active than my other two, so I find her more challenging to play. Learning to play effectively as her has opened a new level of depth in the game for me. I'm still not as good with her as I am with the other two, but I'm having a lot of fun and that's what matters.
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   10-06-2009, 2:28 PM
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Sophita. Been playing her since SC3 and learnt how to deal with short and long ranged opponents with her and punish them already.

Klik. Been playing him since SC3, not as good as my Sophita as he gets pressured at close range for me but I wanted to learn another character which was a duplicate of Sophita.
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   10-14-2009, 1:34 AM
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Cassandra - I've been playing with her since SC2. Shes really good but obviously I'm not as good as a lot.

Tira - I've been playing with her since SC3 but its so different.

Voldo - I'm trying to get the hang of this guy. I'm not that bad but I wish I knew more combos than single or double moves.

I go to the training feature on SC4 but I always seem to forget his moves so I tend to be there a lot. I'm not bad but I wish I can do more.
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   10-23-2009, 4:36 PM
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Yun-Seong - Been using him since SC2, it baffles me to see how people try to spam with him. Took me about a good month to get the overall flow of the character, then another couple of weeks to fully master the moves and how to implement them against other characters (Still have trouble against characters programmed to be faster than Yun-Seong). What i like about him is not only his enthusiasm for fighting, but his fighting styles can work up close and far away. A nice balance for what i need. Of course lately, i've been using custom characters in his style (Two of my characters are anime based, Major Kusanagi and Balsa.) *If you have fought me before, you may have noticed this)*

Recently, im training with Seong mi-na to have as a backup or "alt". Also makes it appropiate to have a custom based on her for Balsa (For those that watch/read Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit).
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   11-03-2009, 2:26 AM
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I just got this game on the cheap, and its a great game. I played a little bit of soul calibur 2 on playstation2, but really cant say i have become really good with anyone.
That being said, I seem to be doing pretty well using Seung Mina. Right now i am sticking to her as she seems to have the right amount of range for me. She seems a bit slow though. Kinda strange. Usually female characters are fast, but she is fun to play as.
I would like to learn Ivy. I've seen some pretty crazy stuff done with her, and it seems not alot of people use her, which is cool, because i like to be different. Plus, a woman wielding a whip. Ya, that sounds like me...hahaha.
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   11-03-2009, 2:39 PM
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 O SandyBeach O wrote:
I just got this game on the cheap, and its a great game. I played a little bit of soul calibur 2 on playstation2, but really cant say i have become really good with anyone.
That being said, I seem to be doing pretty well using Seung Mina. Right now i am sticking to her as she seems to have the right amount of range for me. She seems a bit slow though. Kinda strange. Usually female characters are fast, but she is fun to play as.
I would like to learn Ivy. I've seen some pretty crazy stuff done with her, and it seems not alot of people use her, which is cool, because i like to be different. Plus, a woman wielding a whip. Ya, that sounds like me...hahaha.


Ivy sees a lot of use in in higher level ranked matches.

She is a good character to pick up because she has a number of incredibly hard hitting combos that you really only need to land like twice to take a round.
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