I had PGR 3 when the 360 launched and it was an amazing launch title. i was blown away by the graphics, the realism. everything about it. I never bught PGR 4 when it came out and also stopped playing with my 360 too for a while. I've recently been playing Dirt 2. but thought i'd have a break and try PGR 4. i can't believe how much better Dirt 2 looks and plays than PGR series. cars in PGR never look like they are touching the road. there are jaggies everywhere. the gameplay is no where near as smooth as Dirt series or Forza come to think of it. Its amazing how much more power has been squeezed out of the 360 since PGR 4.