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   11-01-2009, 9:21 PM
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Help choosing a TV
I have a 20" SDTV in my room and I think it's time for a upgrade. I want to know which one of these TV's would be good. I also know nothing about the technical aspects of it so yeah...


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   11-02-2009, 2:45 AM
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i would go for the rca as it is a good brand
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   11-02-2009, 2:50 AM
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Personally I wouldn't buy any of those. The way I see it, if you're going to drop some money on a HDTV, you might as well get something worthwhile and reliable. In terms of LCD I would look for a Samsung. Stay away from Sony LCDs, they have been nothing but trouble for me lately, the V series especially.
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   11-02-2009, 7:20 AM
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I dont think you can go wrong either way, a nice TV makes a huge difference obviously..
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   11-02-2009, 12:23 PM
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Personally I would print up the page, take it to the store with you and compare them all in person.  Stand approximately the same distance that you wold be viewing them in your room and choose the one that you like best.  Be sure to that you watch something with lots of motion, such as sports.  This will reveal any motion blur that might annoy you while playing games.  Good luck!

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   11-02-2009, 1:23 PM
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That's the best advice.  Become familiar with the specs and go look at the pictures.  You may find each TV's picture "looks" different. 
Be critical.  How do the blacks look?  Any noticable ghosting?  Speakers in front or back?  Does the TV look cool?  Will it look cool in my room?  Remote control, ease of menu navigation. 
All of these simple but important features will help you buy the TV that "you" want.  Stay in your price range and don't listen to anyone trying to get you to spend more than you can afford.

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   11-02-2009, 1:33 PM
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im getting a new tv for xmas but i dont know a thing about tvs so id just get a 1080p hd samsung tv
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   11-02-2009, 7:23 PM
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I am also looking for a new TV this Christmas.  I found this website helpful for reviews:  televisioninfo.com

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   11-03-2009, 1:42 AM
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pioneer elite plasma tvs are very good if you are willing to pour money into one
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   11-03-2009, 3:49 AM
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pioneer elite plasma tvs are very good if you are willing to pour money into one
Pioneer Elites have excellent picture quality, but their reliability seems less than stellar in my experience. Besides, given the link the OP provided, I don't think they're looking to spend $6,000+ on their new HDTV.
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   11-03-2009, 7:51 AM
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 Altecmaster wrote:
pioneer elite plasma tvs are very good if you are willing to pour money into one
Pioneer Elites have excellent picture quality, but their reliability seems less than stellar in my experience. Besides, given the link the OP provided, I don't think they're looking to spend $6,000+ on their new HDTV.
Hey Falkon212. I can't speak for the American Model Pioneers PDP's (the 5020 & the elites) But the European Pioneers past and present are extremely Reliable. My Friend has a 7g Pioneer, the 507XD, There is well over twenty thousand hours on his panel and not one issue bar temporary IR now and again that dissipates in minutes and rarely hours. My 9g Kuro 5090 has had no problems whatsoever. I've often gamed on the 9G kuro for 8hrs straight and ran the video pattern afterwards and have yet to get a hint of IR. I know quite a few Kuro owners and not one has ever had a problem. There is Panel buzz of course but quite a few plasma tv's suffer from this to some extent. There is a reason they're so expensive apart from PQ. It's that in Europe their known for their reliability. I don't really see how this would differ on American models TBH. Good advice to the op though in one of your other posts mind. Try and raise the budget a little and try and get A better LCD. Maybe A Sammy or a Panasonic LCD. It would be a better buy longterm
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   11-03-2009, 12:44 PM
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You could be right, I've just been going by what I've seen so far. I don't see many Elites at the installs I do, and the two I have seen both had an issue with what looked like a stuck red pixel, something I thought couldn't happen on PDPs.
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   11-03-2009, 1:44 PM
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The OP was asking for info in a specific demographic of TV's and price range.  If your advice is to "raise your budget a little"  than you've wasted everyones time. 
You can have your Pioneer Elites.  The TV's are garbage for the price.  Anyone who spends that kind of money on a TV (especially these days, when competition is keeping price and reliability very close) is compensating for something..............
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   11-04-2009, 3:16 AM
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You can have your Pioneer Elites.  The TV's are garbage for the price.  Anyone who spends that kind of money on a TV (especially these days, when competition is keeping price and reliability very close) is compensating for something..............


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   11-04-2009, 3:39 AM
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You could be right, I've just been going by what I've seen so far. I don't see many Elites at the installs I do, and the two I have seen both had an issue with what looked like a stuck red pixel, something I thought couldn't happen on PDPs.

Hey Falkon
I appreciate the grown up reply. Yes stuck pixels can happen on PDP's as you've seen. I've read on Av forums about it happening on a small number of Kuro's. It's Unfortunate. You do
professional installs falkon. That's an interesting Job.

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   11-04-2009, 7:25 AM
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Of the choices you gave in the link, I would recommend the RCA. I don't have any HD RCA TVs, but I do have an RCA SDTV that is very good. Also, I have never heard of any of the other brands of TVs, and since I recently went searching for TVs less than two months ago, I think it's better that you go with the RCA.

If you're not looking to purchase the TV right now, I would recommend saving a little more money and purchasing a Vizio. I recently purchased one (thanks to someone on these forums alerting me to a great sale!) and I have to say it is fantastic for gaming.

Vizios are a great value, and purchasing a Samsung or Sony seems silly because you'll only pay more for the high-profile name brand. The television I got was a 32" Vizio, and it cost around $500, with tax included. I know you set your price range at $300-350, but if you can manage to get a little more money together, you can stop looking at entry-level HDTVs (most of which only produce 720p highest resolution) and begin looking to mid-level HDTVs (most of which are really great deals).

Just a few tips:
1. 480, 720, and 1080 correspond to the amount of lines of resolution that a TV uses. Obviously 1080 is the highest-definition resolution, but unfortunately, most entry-level HDTVs do not output up to 1080, but rather to 720.

2. If you're going to be playing games online, you'll want to pay attention to the Response Time of the TV as well, because sometimes TVs will have a delay between when you do something and when it appears on the TV. LCDs in the past haven't been good with Response Time, but they are becoming better and better. The TV I got has a response time of 6 milliseconds, and there is no visual lag when I play Halo 3 or Call of Duty online, and works great.

Those were the two things I was concerned about the most when I made my HDTV purchase, and the Vizio was also a great value, as I was expecting to spend ~$700 for a TV like that, but only spent $500 (which was exactly how much I wanted to spend). If you're planning on purchasing from Wal-Mart, take a look at the Vizios that they have in-store, as they, along with Target (where I got mine), are some of the only stores that sell Vizios. I was originally planning on purchasing from Best Buy, but unfortunately BB does not carry Vizios, but the deal was too good to pass up!

Here's a link to Vizio's products page, in case you're interested. But as I said earlier, if it were my decision, I would purchase the RCA out of the choices you gave. But I agree with this:

 Falkon212 wrote:
The way I see it, if you're going to drop some money on a HDTV, you might as well get something worthwhile and reliable.


Funny how this thread was started about a decision to purchase a LCD HDTV for around $300 and it leads into a discussion about $8000 Plasma TVs and motorcycles!
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   11-04-2009, 7:41 AM
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Funny how this thread was started about a decision to purchase a LCD HDTV for around $300 and it leads into a discussion about $8000 Plasma TVs and motorcycles!

Yes my apologies to the op for going off topic, But someone always get's attacked on most threads on this forum. In this instance it was me. I had to respond. The Vizio would be a good option for the op. And the xbox 360 will look excellent on any hdtv regardless of price. Response time is the time it takes a Pixel to transition from black to white and will reduce motion blur and ghosting. Input lag is the delay from when a button is pressed to the tv's video processing the action and it being displayed onscreen. My pioneer that I mentioned that seemed to upset some people has high input lag and there are better options in both lcd and plasma for gaming. I have read on avs forums that Vizio tv's have low input lag so Butch's recommendation is very good for the op.
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   11-05-2009, 2:33 AM
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Good advice, I was going to go into more detail, but my post was already a little too long lol.

Yeah, I would not recommend purchasing a HDTV based mostly on brand. In the past, I've used a 48" Sony Bravia XBR for gaming, but with a 40ms Response Time, games like Halo 3 and CoD were basically unplayable online from the high amount of visual lag. But games looked amazing none-the-less. I myself was wanting to purchase either a Sony or a Samsung, because those seemed like the highest-profile brands. But not only were they mostly out of my price range (~$500), but the ones that were in my price range were mostly smaller than I wanted. Just make sure to look around, and don't limit yourself to one store. I was wanting to purchase at Best Buy (Reward Zone bonus), but the deal I got at Target was too good to pass up.

I think your best bet (just to repeat myself and what others have said) would be waiting a bit and trying to step up to a higher price range, maybe $500-700, and you can get a great, dependable full-HDTV from at least a known brand for a still great price.

Just one more piece of advice: If you're looking for a TV for a living room, as opposed to a bedroom (which traditionally calls for a smaller TV), I would look for a model that's a little larger than 32", probably 37" (or 42", if you fall into a bit of money). I had a 32" RCA in my bedroom, and it seemed just MASSIVE. Well, I purchased a 32" Vizio (HDTV) and the screen looks way smaller (thanks to the widescreen format).

I personally wish they made HDTVs in a more squared shape, but I guess there's some reason they can't. I have a 19" Sanyo next to my 32" Vizio, and they have very similar vertical measurements, but the size difference (unfortunately) is really only in the horizontal measurements (which then translates into the larger diagonal measurements).
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   11-05-2009, 3:36 AM
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I personally wish they made HDTVs in a more squared shape, but I guess there's some reason they can't.
It's not that they can't but that the image is more naturally in line with the scope of human vision in widescreen format. That's why movies these days are filmed in widescreen format (usually 16:9, 1.85:1, or 2.35:1).

To put it in perspective, imagine a movie theatre with a nearly square (4:3) screen. The movie wouldn't be nearly as immersive if it were so.
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   11-05-2009, 6:49 AM
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 XxButch2000xX wrote:
I personally wish they made HDTVs in a more squared shape, but I guess there's some reason they can't.
It's not that they can't but that the image is more naturally in line with the scope of human vision in widescreen format. That's why movies these days are filmed in widescreen format (usually 16:9, 1.85:1, or 2.35:1).

To put it in perspective, imagine a movie theatre with a nearly square (4:3) screen. The movie wouldn't be nearly as immersive if it were so.


Ehh, I still prefer my SDTV when it comes to most things because of the basically square screen. I'm just not that big of a fan of widescreen, to be honest. Chalk it up to my OCD, I guess...

Hey OP! I don't know if you've seen this or not, but Wal-Mart is having a one-day sale this Saturday, Nov. 8th, and one of the items on sale is a 42" Sharp HDTV. Now, I don't know if this would be affordable, if you'd be able to "stretch" your range or not, but this TV is going for $498, and it looks great. Honestly, if I could take my TV back for a refund, I'd go get this one instead lol. Just thought I'd let you know. Here's the link:

Sharp 42" LCD HDTV
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   11-06-2009, 8:26 AM
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By no means am I remotely an expert, but of the ones you have listed, I would choose the Viore. Looking at third party sites for reviews and comparing the response times, the Viore seems to be the best of those four. IMO anyway...
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   11-06-2009, 4:02 PM
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Not to derail the thread, and my question is mostly on topic, but are plasma tv's safe to game on now? I was always fearful of screen burn etc..
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   11-06-2009, 8:41 PM
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 XxButch2000xX wrote:
 Falkon212 wrote:
 XxButch2000xX wrote:
I personally wish they made HDTVs in a more squared shape, but I guess there's some reason they can't.
It's not that they can't but that the image is more naturally in line with the scope of human vision in widescreen format. That's why movies these days are filmed in widescreen format (usually 16:9, 1.85:1, or 2.35:1).

To put it in perspective, imagine a movie theatre with a nearly square (4:3) screen. The movie wouldn't be nearly as immersive if it were so.


Ehh, I still prefer my SDTV when it comes to most things because of the basically square screen. I'm just not that big of a fan of widescreen, to be honest. Chalk it up to my OCD, I guess...

Hey OP! I don't know if you've seen this or not, but Wal-Mart is having a one-day sale this Saturday, Nov. 8th, and one of the items on sale is a 42" Sharp HDTV. Now, I don't know if this would be affordable, if you'd be able to "stretch" your range or not, but this TV is going for $498, and it looks great. Honestly, if I could take my TV back for a refund, I'd go get this one instead lol. Just thought I'd let you know. Here's the link:

Sharp 42" LCD HDTV
I'll look into that. Thanks.

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   11-06-2009, 9:09 PM
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Yeah, if you can get that one, that's a WAY better deal than the original ones. Beware though, it's a Saturday-only sale, so check it out soon!
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   11-06-2009, 9:33 PM
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Not to derail the thread, and my question is mostly on topic, but are plasma tv's safe to game on now? I was always fearful of screen burn etc..


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   11-07-2009, 1:00 AM
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I wouldnt get any of thoughs.....  Save a little longer and buy a little better..  Youll be super happy you did in the long run...   For ex.  For 5-6 hundred bucks you can buy a panasonic plasma...   Do a little more research and be patient..  Black friday deals will be rediculous Im sure..
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   11-07-2009, 3:34 PM
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i played a lot of video games and played on a lot of tv's. anyways my best choice if you need a tv for gaming sports and all the things you want is the led 40 inch samsung. its just great how you can record yourself play and get updates from live games that are going on while you play some live. This is my personal option and you need to go and look for whats best suits you. i looked for about 2 months until i fell in love with this samsung led. anyways have a blast looking for your tv. its a investment so pick the right one. let the force be with you :D ** edit, and if you have the turtle beach's x4 then when you replace the component cable's with the hdmi cord you will be just fine because the samsung tv has an optical out/ in to connect right into your turtle beach hud. **
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   11-08-2009, 6:48 AM
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didnt led tvs just come out? new technology always has problems
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   11-08-2009, 6:35 PM
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didnt led tvs just come out? new technology always has problems
havent had any problems yet. look it up gets the best rated for online game play. the only reason i got it.
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   11-08-2009, 6:43 PM
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 Falkon212 wrote:
Personally I wouldn't buy any of those. The way I see it, if you're going to drop some money on a HDTV, you might as well get something worthwhile and reliable. In terms of LCD I would look for a Samsung. Stay away from Sony LCDs, they have been nothing but trouble for me lately, the V series especially.
Exactly dish out the money for a Vizio or a Samsung.
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