anyone want the shadow run achievement boost send me a friend request.

Yup another "pro" looking to boost, shocking right?

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Lol why are you so obsest with the status. Do you really care if my status says pro or not? And if that answer is a yes then that means you have no life sir. Wow really basically no one on xbox live give a crap on their status they just put it because they want. I don't care if i have pro on mine what does that have to prove am i good at every game no but i don't care and you have to do the same. Get a life!

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Lol why are you so obsest with the status. Do you really care if my status says pro or not? And if that answer is a yes then that means you have no life sir. Wow really basically no one on xbox live give a crap on their status they just put it because they want. I don't care if i have pro on mine what does that have to prove am i good at every game no but i don't care and you have to do the same. Get a life!

well if it sound underground youd expect either a foul mouthed pain like me or a person who will win at any cost, pro tends to suggest some degree of concept of fair play and managing achievements legitemately rather than boosting.
You area in theory was meant to reflect your gaming outlook

Well im my case i don't care on what zone i am in i get achievements legit but if i want to boost that my choice im not going to change my zone for any reason.

No I don't actually care about it I just noticed a trend. Many posters who ask to boost are under the pro zone. I find that funny because normally pro means someone who doesn't cheat in anyway. Get all bent out of shape about it if you want I'm just making an observation.

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That is you opinion but mine is that i just play because I want to and if I want to achievement boost then I can if people want to do it with me. I don't care what my zone means and it's just a zone it doesnt mean that if your a pro your going to be the best of the best and play fairly. I have seen people who host boot and say their pro and what not. They just want to play not because their zone is pro just because they want to play.

By all means play how you wanna play I'm just pointing out this trend and making a comment on how lame I think boosting is.
Zone means nothing but most people pick theirs for a reason. It's funny to see which personalities pick different zones.

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I guess so.

Hey nothing personal I'm just calling them like I see them.

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I can see that I saw most of your post for achievement boosting in Shadow run but this guy doesn't back down from a fight so yeah lol.

Well if you wanna debate about boosting I'm willing. I just want you to know that I have friends who boost, it's not like I hate everyone who does it. I just hate the mentality of "oh it's no big deal to cheat for it". Since when did people stop caring about cheating in games?

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I guess no on really cares on cheating anymore its not like your going to get banned from live if you cheat.

Yeah it's not against the rules but I thought I heard companies were banned people from theirs games for boosting. I'm almost positive it was Bungie.

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Yeah so far i only know bungie does it but i dont think most companies do.

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Well if you wanna debate about boosting I'm willing. I just want you to know that I have friends who boost, it's not like I hate everyone who does it. I just hate the mentality of "oh it's no big deal to cheat for it". Since when did people stop caring about cheating in games?

Why do people get so bent out of shape over boosting?

If someone pays for a game they should be able to cheat as much as they want, as long as it doesn't ruin the experience for others. Boosting was an issue in Halo because you had to go online to boost for them. At least in Shadowrun the boosters can not bother the rest of the community and play the game however they want. Does it really bother you so much that people want to boost for Shadowrun?

The original message was asking for people to boost with in a private game, why did you feel the need to wreck that? I still get invites to boost after playing a game, but I just ignore them. Can't you just let it go?

Ignore the double post

Why do people get so bent out of shape when I voice my opinion on boosting? I paid for my xbox and games, I have a right to express my opinion about people cheating on the games I play, right?

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 UnyoBro wrote:

Well if you wanna debate about boosting I'm willing. I just want you to know that I have friends who boost, it's not like I hate everyone who does it. I just hate the mentality of "oh it's no big deal to cheat for it". Since when did people stop caring about cheating in games?

Why do people get so bent out of shape over boosting?

If someone pays for a game they should be able to cheat as much as they want, as long as it doesn't ruin the experience for others. Boosting was an issue in Halo because you had to go online to boost for them. At least in Shadowrun the boosters can not bother the rest of the community and play the game however they want. Does it really bother you so much that people want to boost for Shadowrun?

The original message was asking for people to boost with in a private game, why did you feel the need to wreck that? I still get invites to boost after playing a game, but I just ignore them. Can't you just let it go?

Booster = braggers and general idiots coming to the game to brag about their gamerscore etc,
this means a good community goes bad and gets filled with the MLG twerps which sours the community, if the game gets known for boosting achievements etc the community will suffer from an idiot influx, worst we have at the moment is Yadoo

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Why do people get so bent out of shape when I voice my opinion on boosting? I paid for my xbox and games, I have a right to express my opinion about people cheating on the games I play, right?

What you're doing isn't just voicing an opinion, it's seeking out people with an opposing viewpoint and antagonizing them. You never really answered the question either, you just failed at being clever. Why does it upset you when people Achievement Boost in a private game?

Yes it's cheating, but it's achievement boosting in a game with some ridiculous achievements. In a single player, or private group context people can play the game however they want. If it's not affecting you what's the problem? People like you seem to be the reason that video games don't have cheat codes anymore, sometimes in a single player game you just want to say "*** this" and start shooting everything with infinite health and infinite ammo. Did it really bug you when people did that in the 90's?

It is cheating, but cheating isn't always that dude camping a glitch spot to put his team ahead in points, sometimes cheating is just breaking the game to make it more enjoyable for the player without effecting the way anybody else plays the game. If it doesn't effect you, why does it bother you so much?

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a good community goes bad and gets filled with the MLG twerps which sours the community, if the game gets known for boosting achievements etc the community will suffer from an idiot influx, worst we have at the moment is Yadoo

Is this what everybody is getting so upset about? I applaud you for actually addressing the point instead of acting like a 3 year old.

You don't have to worry about an influx of people into Shadowrun for achievement boosting, because shadowrun achievements are hard. I know it's weird. However there are lots of easier ways to boost your gamerscore than by playing shadowrun. Ever heard of Dash of Destruction? It's an Arcade game that is completely free and an easy 200 gamerscore. Or how about that Christmas when the Xbox included Lego Indiana Jones and Kung Fu Panda? There are a lot of easier ways to boost gamerscore than playing Shadowrun.

However the players in Shadowrun who do boost are just regular players who figured it would be easier to do this than to play the game exclusively for a couple of years. Really it's a flaw with the gamerscore system, as all games are not created equal.

If you look through my achievements you'll see that I don't have any of the ridiculous ones myself, I don't boost, I just don't see the problem with people boosting.

Boosting ruins the achievement system. I have a right to dislike when people do that. If you don't like it too bad. If you'd rather play with cheaters then keep ignoring the problem. We should not be encouraging cheating in any form.

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Hold up a second here, achievement boosters cannot be lumped into the same category as standbyers, glitches, and other formations of scum who need to use underhand tactics to win a game. There's a whole difference between using in game means to acquire achievements then using other means to win matches, or in some cases to actually earn achievements. Now granted, I can understand your argument, after all, it's always great to have that sense of nostalgia knowing you got something through the sweat of your brow, then taking the easy way, but to call achievement boosters cheaters is a little too far. They're not cheaters.

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Hold up a second here, achievement boosters cannot be lumped into the same category as standbyers, glitches, and other formations of scum who need to use underhand tactics to win a game. There's a whole difference between using in game means to acquire achievements then using other means to win matches, or in some cases to actually earn achievements.

No they can be lumped in with other cheaters because they are in fact cheating to get their achievements. Yeah it's not game breaking(most times) but it's still manipulating the system to get something they didn't earn, which is cheating.

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Now granted, I can understand your argument, after all, it's always great to have that sense of nostalgia knowing you got something through the sweat of your brow, then taking the easy way, but to call achievement boosters cheaters is a little too far. They're not cheaters.

Nostalgia is the wrong word. The word you should've used is achievement. I know that word has lost all meaning nowdays but it still means that you earned something without cheating.
Like I said above, yes they are cheaters. They did not achieve anything, they cheated to get it. I think that's easy to understand but I guess most people have a warped view of what's right and what's wrong.

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So UnyoBro, the achievement boosting debate is similar to 2 guys that went to the same collage, graduated and got the same job at the same company. But guy (A) had scholarships and parents who footed the bill all the way through for his education. While guy (B) worked three jobs to pay for his own education. Both did the classwork, got the passing grades, but one had a much easier time at it. Did they both not reach the employment achievement? Is one's education more satisfying then the others? Or more deserving?

Or maybe, one kid collected pop cans, had a paper route, saved his allowance and birthday money to buy a new dirt bike. But his friend just asked his parents for one, and they bought it for him. Both got a bike, is one better then the other?

I understand your stance on the issue. But because you put more personal value or effort on the in-game goals/ diversions/ flukes Microsoft has deemed Achievements, they mean less because someone else asked for help and got it? And you worked for/stumbled across it? (And I say stumbled, because 3 people with 1 grenade? What are the odds? [and "No." I didn't look to see if you had it, it's just an achievement tied to Shadowrun.])

I know you wont (because you haven't yet), but dude, just let it go. Achievements are just markers designated by the Game Developers to inform you how they think their game should be experienced. They feel you should, at some point, kill 10 people on Live in a row without dying. It's not specified that it needs to be in an intense battle, or in one round, or even with complete strangers who have very different goals. They just want you to kill 10 people, in a row, without dying. And when that icon appears on a person's profile, they may have a story to tell, or simply say, "Yeah, I killed 10 people and didn't die."

And again, I understand your stance on this. Hopefully I helped others see your side, and maybe gave you some insight as well. I'm sure you'll want to point out how I'm wrong. Or someone else will, but I'm sick of the whole boosting debate. That's all there appears to be in this thread outside of "His build cheapens my build."

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So UnyoBro, the achievement boosting debate is similar to 2 guys that went to the same collage, graduated and got the same job at the same company. But guy (A) had scholarships and parents who footed the bill all the way through for his education. While guy (B) worked three jobs to pay for his own education. Both did the classwork, got the passing grades, but one had a much easier time at it. Did they both not reach the employment achievement? Is one's education more satisfying then the others? Or more deserving?

Or maybe, one kid collected pop cans, had a paper route, saved his allowance and birthday money to buy a new dirt bike. But his friend just asked his parents for one, and they bought it for him. Both got a bike, is one better then the other?

No it's more like one guy takes all the required courses and does all the work to graduate and the other guy gets a bunch of friends to help him forge documents to say he did all the required work to graduate.
Yes one is more deserving than the other.

In your first scenario the rich kid would still have to put in some work, that is not the same as boosting. In the second scenario the rich kid is like a booster, he didn't earn it so there's no sense of achievement.

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I understand your stance on the issue. But because you put more personal value or effort on the in-game goals/ diversions/ flukes Microsoft has deemed Achievements, they mean less because someone else asked for help and got it? And you worked for/stumbled across it? (And I say stumbled, because 3 people with 1 grenade? What are the odds? [and "No." I didn't look to see if you had it, it's just an achievement tied to Shadowrun.])

I know you wont (because you haven't yet), but dude, just let it go. Achievements are just markers designated by the Game Developers to inform you how they think their game should be experienced. They feel you should, at some point, kill 10 people on Live in a row without dying. It's not specified that it needs to be in an intense battle, or in one round, or even with complete strangers who have very different goals. They just want you to kill 10 people, in a row, without dying. And when that icon appears on a person's profile, they may have a story to tell, or simply say, "Yeah, I killed 10 people and didn't die."

And again, I understand your stance on this. Hopefully I helped others see your side, and maybe gave you some insight as well. I'm sure you'll want to point out how I'm wrong. Or someone else will, but I'm sick of the whole boosting debate. That's all there appears to be in this thread outside of "His build cheapens my build."

Why should I let it go? I think boosters are cheaters and what they do cheapens the online experience. I don't like that and I choose to post about it. It only takes like five minutes to post about this(for me at least), it's not like I'm spending all my time and effort to rant against boosting. If people don't like reading it they can just skip my posts, I really won't care. Obviously some people agree with me and I'm sure they appreciate my speaking out against it.

Besides all that, I like to debate things I feel strongly about.

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yeh, Im against boosters mainly because a game gets known for boosting then the community just collapses (just look at the gears 2 community its started there.