Ah...now
I get it...you take the moral high-ground and try and twist my point
to be against ALL games and thereby you win the
argument!??
No. I observed what I considered biases in your
argument so I threw out a counter-point of view.
I
only hope that people can use objective and critical thinking before
coming to emotionally fueled, subjective conclusions, based on
speculation and opinion, while also ignoring fact.
Did I actually mention mutilating hookers?
Did I discuss hostages getting beheaded? Did I mention setting light
to helpless people?
No, people who are biased usually
seek cognitive consistency.
(Cognitive consistency is basically
the human tendency to seek out those things which are consistent with
ones beliefs, and to ignore/reject things that are inconsistent with
one's beliefs.)
I
think you'll find that is not what I was arguing against!
Um... uh.. ok... so... why is it that you are are specifically
arguing against it, in the next paragraph...
I ascertain the 'hookers' thing is GTA relevant? I WOULD
let my child play that GTA nonsense because it's nonsense! A
fictional city with fictional cars, fictional people, fictional city,
in other words...fiction! GTA's a laugh! The dialogue's hilarious,
the graphics are beautifully rendered, and the tunes? Ah man...the
tunes are second to none! So...amusing entertainment in a fictional
world!
So apparently I was correct in my previous assumption.
Liberty City is somehow less realistic than the locations in
America's Army (which don't even have a name)? It appears that you
justify the killing, mutilation and torture in a fictional setting
but you do not justify communication, organization, strategy and
teamwork in a fictional setting.
Do you really think the US
Army (or any Army for that matter) stands for all those values you
listed ad nauseum? Because the simple fact is that it
doesn't!
The simple fact is that they do stand for these values. You
would have noticed these values (LDRSHIP) are covered in the game, if
you would have played it.
http://www.goarmy.com/life/living_the_army_values.jsp
An Army is a tool of governmental
policy, both abroad and at home.
I agree. A tool used for many positive things that apparently you
don't want to recognize despite historical evidence.
Hippy rioters on campus? Send in
the Army to tear-gas, beat, and shoot them! National oil reserves are
getting low, need a new source? Send in the Army, supported by Naval
missile attacks and strategic bombers! I could go on forever but I'd
probably end up tearful at man's inhumanity to his fellow
man!
Hippy rioters on campus getting teargassed? Dude! In case you
haven't checked it is 2009!
Have you been on an American college campus since the 60s? I
currently attend one of the most diverse universities in the country.
They do not even allow the Army on campus for recruiting. The college
actually have forms you can fill out to stage a protest, rally or
demonstrate practically whatever in the hell you want to. You can go
out there, distribute literature, hold signs and yell and if even the
campus security got in your way, it would be an anomaly.
Did you know that the vast
majority of US Infantrymen don't speak English! Did you know that the
majority of Infantry soldiers come from geographical areas of
high-unemployment? Did you know that any foreigner who wants to
become a US citizen only has to sign-up for a tour-of-duty in the US
Army and then, upon completion of tour, gets the full rights and
citizenship of a US citizen?
And your point is? It is a bad thing that these people have the
opportunity for a career and to support their families, when they may
not otherwise?
As for the foreigners, in my opinion, I think it should be
required that everybody who wants to be a member of the US, provide
some form of meaningful service to the country. That doesn't have to
be in the military though. But I think it is pretty nice of us to
also provide pay, benefits, allowances and bonuses for that service.
I could see myself jumping at the chance if I lived in an extremely
poor country.
Read the text and make your
own mind up but at least pay attention to what's written before you
start trying to shove words/arguments into my mouth! Because my
friend...this is a forum concerning opinion and
free-speech...remember YOUR Constitution?
I never put one word in your mouth. In your response it appears to
me that you took my words and put them your mouth. I only offered a
hypothetical counter-viewpoint for people to think about.
The constitution belongs to every American and I never had any
problem with you stating your opinions. In fact, I encourage you to
continue to do so. Just realize that they are opinions, just like
mine.
Either way, I must say it is nice to talk to someone who likes to
discuss things versus consorting to name-calling. I am not saying I
am right. Really I don't care if anyone views me as right, or wrong.
Conflict and discussing various viewpoints is actually good in some
ways because it helps both parties think about different things in
different ways. So thanks for the good discussion.
