Wastelander08 wrote:

On the technical side your right. But I absolutly hated fallout 3, Im glad i only borrowed it cos i wouldve gone back into town and returned it after a few days. I dont know why i feel this way where so many people love it. My point is that it had alot of the things that oblivion shouldve had, but Oblivion was somehow better despite the "shortcomings" to fallout 3. If the main flaws of oblivion were (i'd like to say "are" but bethesda dont want to tell the public jack SH*T) fixed ESV would be a Morrowind level of greatness... maybe higher.

Aside from the fact that Bethesda basically abandoned the original plotline and went for something else (which, in a certain way was a good thing, it stopped them from fudging up the original game's plotline. Although it means the "3" in the title isn't really relevant to the actual game), I was pretty happy with Fallout 3.

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 Taldarin wrote:

 FireproofGalaxy wrote:

Arena should be included in a limited/special edition of TES 5. Kind of like how Call of Duty 1 will be included in the MW2 package.

I like this idea quite a bit.

Arena and Daggerfall are actually free to download from Bethesdas site. Probably already knew but just incase.

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 SupremeSuperfly wrote:

 Taldarin wrote:

 FireproofGalaxy wrote:

Arena should be included in a limited/special edition of TES 5. Kind of like how Call of Duty 1 will be included in the MW2 package.

I like this idea quite a bit.

Arena and Daggerfall are actually free to download from Bethesdas site. Probably already knew but just incase.

I know, but I prefer xbox 360 controller and achievements more than pc.

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Fallout 3 is an exceptional game. It may not have as much replay value to some as Oblivion (I say some, because I'm still playing it and obviously prefer it over Oblivion), and it's a huge step forward with Gamebryo. It runs smoothly and, despite the higher quality character models, NPCs barely affect FPS, allowing for some pretty big battles at a smooth 60 FPS.

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 FireproofGalaxy wrote:

 SupremeSuperfly wrote:

 Taldarin wrote:

 FireproofGalaxy wrote:

Arena should be included in a limited/special edition of TES 5. Kind of like how Call of Duty 1 will be included in the MW2 package.

I like this idea quite a bit.

Arena and Daggerfall are actually free to download from Bethesdas site. Probably already knew but just incase.

I know, but I prefer xbox 360 controller and achievements more than pc.

Is CoD 1 going to have achievements then i.e. as an arcade? If so, is it only in the Hardened edition or will it come out seperatley aswell. I know i'm off topic sorry i just want to know this.

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 death knowz wrote:

Fallout 3 is an exceptional game. It may not have as much replay value to some as Oblivion (I say some, because I'm still playing it and obviously prefer it over Oblivion), and it's a huge step forward with Gamebryo. It runs smoothly and, despite the higher quality character models, NPCs barely affect FPS, allowing for some pretty big battles at a smooth 60 FPS.

Death, your screenshots gave me an idea! Since it's cold in Skyrim, there should be auroras. That would look so cool. And SupremeSuperfly, check PMs.

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Auroras are overrated...

Although i see them basically everynight....

so I ges im unappreciative of them haha

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All the originals should be included with the next installment as arcade titles with achievements. Also, Morrowind should be released as an Xbox original with achievements. If they ever put achievements into those games. I doubt they will, so I guess I won't be buying any!

I would also like to see levitation come back. Nothing better than seeing everything from way up in the sky as the sun sets. Or in Oblivions case, from the side of a mountain that you can't even get to the top of.

Seriously Bethesda, fix what you unfixed.

I also want the soultrap glitch back just for fun :)

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 zebatov wrote:

All the originals should be included with the next installment as arcade titles with achievements. Also, Morrowind should be released as an Xbox original with achievements. If they ever put achievements into those games. I doubt they will, so I guess I won't be buying any!

I would also like to see levitation come back. Nothing better than seeing everything from way up in the sky as the sun sets. Or in Oblivions case, from the side of a mountain that you can't even get to the top of.

Seriously Bethesda, fix what you unfixed.

I also want the soultrap glitch back just for fun :)

First off, if the only reason you won't play Arena, Daggerfall and Morrowind is because they don't have achievements than you don't deserve to play them.

They got rid of Levitation because of the ways some areas of the game were structured. Have you ever tried jumping over the walls inside a town? Well if you have then you know the game doesn't load the outside area, and you get to run around in a super low res model of the outside.

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 OldPepsiMan wrote:

the whole secret is more Pepsi and less booze.

Shivering isles is a perfect example. I accidentally jumped over the walls of new sheoth. Try it and see. although im repeating myself, i think ESV should have a seperate package with perhaps a d/l code to get the arena / daggerfall on to 360. I also think Morrowind should be avaliable on xbl. I could live without acheivments, i just wana play the game with a controller coz thats what i feel most confortable with.

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 Taldarin wrote:

 zebatov wrote:

All the originals should be included with the next installment as arcade titles with achievements. Also, Morrowind should be released as an Xbox original with achievements. If they ever put achievements into those games. I doubt they will, so I guess I won't be buying any!

I would also like to see levitation come back. Nothing better than seeing everything from way up in the sky as the sun sets. Or in Oblivions case, from the side of a mountain that you can't even get to the top of.

Seriously Bethesda, fix what you unfixed.

I also want the soultrap glitch back just for fun :)

First off, if the only reason you won't play Arena, Daggerfall and Morrowind is because they don't have achievements than you don't deserve to play them.

They got rid of Levitation because of the ways some areas of the game were structured. Have you ever tried jumping over the walls inside a town? Well if you have then you know the game doesn't load the outside area, and you get to run around in a super low res model of the outside.

I understand how a video game works. Thanks for the useless information. So even if I hadn't been outside the walls, I understand that this game contains a doom area, just like every other 3D video game ever created. That's more than likely not the only reason they got rid of it. It was a relatively cheap spell since you could attack anyone from the air and almost never get hit. And it wasn't very costly to make, either. If they didn't want you outside the walls, they could have simply put an invisible wall overtop of the cities saying you cannot go that way, just like the edge of the world tells you. Even though you can see the land, and animals that run away from you, such as deer, walk out there no problem.

Secondly, all games released for arcade or retail must contain achievements, goofy. I guess you didn't know this since you made that ignorant, snarky comment towards me. Where did I say I wouldn't play them if they didn't have achievements? Anyone else that's reading this see where I said that? Does anyone see where I implied that in the slightest? I don't. I said it would be nice if Morrowind had them. But since I already own both versions of it for the original Xbox, if it didn't come with achievements on the 360, I wouldn't be needing to purchase it.

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 zebatov wrote:

all games released for arcade or retail must contain achievements.

I downloaded Crash bandicoot WoC and that contains no achievments...although I dunno if the rule has changed since then.

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 zebatov wrote:

Where did I say I wouldn't play them if they didn't have achievements? Anyone else that's reading this see where I said that? Does anyone see where I implied that in the slightest? I don't.

 zebatov wrote:

If they ever put achievements into those games. I doubt they will, so I guess I won't be buying any!

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 OldPepsiMan wrote:

the whole secret is more Pepsi and less booze.

 Taldarin wrote:

 zebatov wrote:

Where did I say I wouldn't play them if they didn't have achievements? Anyone else that's reading this see where I said that? Does anyone see where I implied that in the slightest? I don't.

 zebatov wrote:

If they ever put achievements into those games. I doubt they will, so I guess I won't be buying any!

Zebatov, sir you just fail. Achievements aren't everything. You probably have no taste in games if that's all you care about. It doesn't make you any better at games than the next person. Even if Daggerfall/Arena doesn't have achievements, I will still get them and play them. This is coming from an achievement junkie.

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if it is in skyrim it would be cool to see aurau(?).... stealth should be based on the awareness check system... if there awareness check doesnt pick u up then u should remain hidden... although the closer u are to them, the brightness the area ur in, the objects blocking ur path, and the amount of times u atack them, and ur stealth skill should all factor into their awarness check.....

ie if i was shooting my bow 100 ft away, hiding behind a box, in pitch black, and had a stealth of 100 then they should be pretty screwd on finding me... although the amounts of times i fire my bow and strike a target should penalize my stealth and add a modifier to there awareness... ie they are slowly figuring out where the arrows are coming from... also since they dont know where the arrows are coming from they shouldnt just sit there and be like "duh... why did billy just fall over dead with a arrow in his head?" they should definatly act...

one corse of action could be dowsing their torches or camp fire so they themselves are harder to see... they should still draw weapons... they should also seek shelter by finding something to hide behinde if they know a ranged weapon is being used... if u sneak in and use a sword then the stealth penalties should definatly be more drastic cause u are definatly in sight of them.... and if the area is lit by a fire then u are really lit up like a christmas tree...

this surcomstance in particular is where i would like to see ice/water spells capable of putting out flames... if u put out a flame then there awareness should be penalized for a few seconds... like if ur in a bright room and  all the lights go out unexpectidly.. takes u a few seconds to get use to it and get ur barings... if ur the one to do it on the other hands then ur awarness is slightly better than the one not expecting it because u anticipated it... so if ur going through the woods with a torch and a bandit is sneaking and dowses ur torch u should experience a type of blindness for a few seconds....

also there should be some stealthy npc's that u have to fight... ones that will sneak up on u like u can on them.... if they are sneaking then they should be visible but kinda transparent... though if ur awareness is high enough the closer they get to u the more visible they become... and if they use the bow tactics then u should eventually be able to see a type of "tacer line" that show where the arrows are coming from... that is if u dont notice before ur awareness does.... i basicly an "Awareness" skill or attribute should be introduced to the game as a counter the stealth skill... making stealth play a bit more balanced... awareness could also "highlight" booby traps if ur lvl in awareness is high enough to check and notice the lvl of the trap... sorry for the long post but i've been brain storming on how to make stealth better.. i think this would make it better and balance it at the same time

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 Wastelander08 wrote:

 zebatov wrote:

all games released for arcade or retail must contain achievements.

I downloaded Crash bandicoot WoC and that contains no achievments...although I dunno if the rule has changed since then.

Isn't that an Xbox Original?

 Taldarin wrote:

 zebatov wrote:

Where did I say I wouldn't play them if they didn't have achievements? Anyone else that's reading this see where I said that? Does anyone see where I implied that in the slightest? I don't.

 zebatov wrote:

If they ever put achievements into those games. I doubt they will, so I guess I won't be buying any!

This is where you believe I implied that? I was talking about Xbox originals. Not TES. Mr. Dumasse.

 FireproofGalaxy wrote:

 Taldarin wrote:

 zebatov wrote:

Where did I say I wouldn't play them if they didn't have achievements? Anyone else that's reading this see where I said that? Does anyone see where I implied that in the slightest? I don't.

 zebatov wrote:

If they ever put achievements into those games. I doubt they will, so I guess I won't be buying any!

Zebatov, sir you just fail. Achievements aren't everything. You probably have no taste in games if that's all you care about. It doesn't make you any better at games than the next person. Even if Daggerfall/Arena doesn't have achievements, I will still get them and play them. This is coming from an achievement junkie.

Achievements aren't everything. They just add replay to games. A lot of replay. And anyone who can't see this is "just fail". How mature. I probably have no taste in games? Why don't you have a look through some of the games I have (well over) 1000 points on before you open your mouth. I won't play them if they don't come with achievements because I am a strong supporter of games with achievements. I have no interest in playing something that came out 15 years ago. If I did, I'd download it for free. I can play the game on my PC that way with no achievements. Since this is the case, MS would be off their rocker not to implement achievements into these games.

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 zebatov wrote:

 Taldarin wrote:

 zebatov wrote:

Where did I say I wouldn't play them if they didn't have achievements? Anyone else that's reading this see where I said that? Does anyone see where I implied that in the slightest? I don't.

 zebatov wrote:

If they ever put achievements into those games. I doubt they will, so I guess I won't be buying any!

This is where you believe I implied that? I was talking about Xbox originals. Not TES. Mr. Dumasse.

Oh, I'm so sorry. Lemme quote that whole paragraph for you.

 zebatov wrote:

All the originals should be included with the next installment as arcade titles with achievements. Also, Morrowind should be released as an Xbox original with achievements. If they ever put achievements into those games. I doubt they will, so I guess I won't be buying any!

Now if you'd stop being a quantum singularity we could get this thread back on track I think.

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 OldPepsiMan wrote:

the whole secret is more Pepsi and less booze.

 zebatov wrote:

 Wastelander08 wrote:

 zebatov wrote:

all games released for arcade or retail must contain achievements.

I downloaded Crash bandicoot WoC and that contains no achievments...although I dunno if the rule has changed since then.

Isn't that an Xbox Original?

 zebatov wrote:

Also, Morrowind should be released as an Xbox original with achievements.

I figured some xbox originals did from your sentence.

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 Taldarin wrote:

 zebatov wrote:

 Taldarin wrote:

 zebatov wrote:

Where did I say I wouldn't play them if they didn't have achievements? Anyone else that's reading this see where I said that? Does anyone see where I implied that in the slightest? I don't.

 zebatov wrote:

If they ever put achievements into those games. I doubt they will, so I guess I won't be buying any!

This is where you believe I implied that? I was talking about Xbox originals. Not TES. Mr. Dumasse.

Oh, I'm so sorry. Lemme quote that whole paragraph for you.

 zebatov wrote:

All the originals should be included with the next installment as arcade titles with achievements. Also, Morrowind should be released as an Xbox original with achievements. If they ever put achievements into those games. I doubt they will, so I guess I won't be buying any!

Now if you'd stop being a quantum singularity we could get this thread back on track I think.

I said I already own it. Therefore the only reason I would need to buy it A THIRD TIME is if they put achievements on it. Good Lord. You'd think after all the posts I've made around here that people would have learned their lesson.

 Wastelander08 wrote:

 zebatov wrote:

 Wastelander08 wrote:

 zebatov wrote:

all games released for arcade or retail must contain achievements.

I downloaded Crash bandicoot WoC and that contains no achievments...although I dunno if the rule has changed since then.

Isn't that an Xbox Original?

 zebatov wrote:

Also, Morrowind should be released as an Xbox original with achievements.

I figured some xbox originals did from your sentence.

I said it should be. But they said they won't be doing that. Which is retarded because I've played all the old games, and most people I know have. It's just a dumb idea imo on MS's part for releasing old games that barely border good anymore (save for Black and a couple others) without achievements.

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Drop it. Seriously.

I put my post in the wrong damn thread, because of this drawn out argument going on in two threads.

On topic though, the weather in Oblivion, frankly, sucks.

They need to do something a bit more complex, visually and gameplay-wise with it. Not to mention add some fancy effects, it's too damn bland. Sublte DOF, Godrays, etc. would be nice.

They did the same with Fallout; the weather, while somewhat fitting to the whole nuclear war thing, it didn't really project that senses of danger and dread, that is the wasteland they tried to flesh out through dialogue and notes.

It could have/should have looked like this and this. Not this. That's just boring.

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 death knowz wrote:

Drop it. Seriously.

I put my post in the wrong damn thread, because of this drawn out argument going on in two threads.

On topic though, the weather in Oblivion, frankly, sucks.

They need to do something a bit more complex, visually and gameplay-wise with it. Not to mention add some fancy effects, it's too damn bland. Sublte DOF, Godrays, etc. would be nice.

They did the same with Fallout; the weather, while somewhat fitting to the whole nuclear war thing, it didn't really project that senses of danger and dread, that is the wasteland they tried to flesh out through dialogue and notes.

It could have/should have looked like this and this. Not this. That's just boring.

Actually I think that last screenshot makes the game look better than it actually does. I came across lots of clipping issues with the landscape playing FO3. It was pretty ridiculous. Lots of half floating rocks sitting around.

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 OldPepsiMan wrote:

the whole secret is more Pepsi and less booze.

I think we should make our own forum site to discuss the ideas... i mean here we have to make a new thread every time we reach 50 pages, and we'd have alot less people who like to flame. ( Im not refering to anyone/incedent at all).

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 Wastelander08 wrote:

I think we should make our own forum site to discuss the ideas... i mean here we have to make a new thread every time we reach 50 pages, and we'd have alot less people who like to flame. ( Im not refering to anyone/incedent at all).

This is were the old Morrowind forum community is

Fireproof/Perdipt and Death have accounts there. I imagine your welcome too.

Just throwing that out there.

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 OldPepsiMan wrote:

the whole secret is more Pepsi and less booze.

Nice, will probs join 2moro my dog is vomiting.... i hope he's not too ill

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 Taldarin wrote:

 Wastelander08 wrote:

I think we should make our own forum site to discuss the ideas... i mean here we have to make a new thread every time we reach 50 pages, and we'd have alot less people who like to flame. ( Im not refering to anyone/incedent at all).

This is were the old Morrowind forum community is

Fireproof/Perdipt and Death have accounts there. I imagine your welcome too.

Just throwing that out there.

Yup, all is welcome! ^_^

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good now that that is taken care of  can we get back on this forums subject???.... what about the awareness thing i last typed??? any ideas or opinions on it???

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 Charon 711 wrote:

good now that that is taken care of  can we get back on this forums subject???.... what about the awareness thing i last typed??? any ideas or opinions on it???

I think it was a well thought out idea.

I agree there should be a "awareness level", I do get pretty tired of people running at me with Fireballs and Swords every time I decide to kill someone in Balmora, because somehow they already know where I am when their half way across the town.

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 OldPepsiMan wrote:

the whole secret is more Pepsi and less booze.

 Charon 711 wrote:

good now that that is taken care of  can we get back on this forums subject???.... what about the awareness thing i last typed??? any ideas or opinions on it???

Here's an idea...

Stop taking credit for my ideas!



but yeah...

Everyone is Welcome in our forums!

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ur ideas??? idea for what??? trying to get this forum on the right track again???.... or did u post something similar to my awareness idea earlyer??? 

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Posted the exact same thing you did about the awarness haha

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