x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

 T Stump wrote:

A DICE developer puts it nicely:

Quote number one.

Quote numero dos.

I actually need to clarify something....  After a little reaserch, I found out that GordanVanDyke IS NOT a developer from Dice.  He is simply a spokesperson

He had nothing to do with the creation of this or any other Battlefield game other than he works in the public relations dept.  

Do some research and see for yourself.

As a spokesperson for the BF dev team, would he not express the dev team's opinion on spawn camping?

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Thanks for the votes...

15 say Yes it is cheap
5 say No it is not
1 Undecided

God I hope I got that right, I might need someone to help me keep up with the numbers. 

to many mind changing......lol

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 xCoNx Snoopy wrote:

 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

 T Stump wrote:

A DICE developer puts it nicely:

Quote number one.

Quote numero dos.

I actually need to clarify something....  After a little reaserch, I found out that GordanVanDyke IS NOT a developer from Dice.  He is simply a spokesperson

He had nothing to do with the creation of this or any other Battlefield game other than he works in the public relations dept.  

Do some research and see for yourself.

As a spokesperson for the BF dev team, would he not express the dev team's opinion on spawn camping?

Honestly it is hard to say as I have yet to see the entire thread where this was posted.  It seems like to me he is posting HIS opinion though and, as everytime I see these pics, the person posting them claims he is a developer when he is just a spokesperson.  In business, there is a B I I I I I I I I G difference.

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Yes! Spawn camping is cheap!  I i find myself at the other teams spwan site i might kill 2 people then I leave. You have to at least give people a chance. The game is no fun with people spawn camping.

Well, GvD's site says he's a producer-designer. Where did you read that he's only a spokesperson?

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If you let me in your spawn that is your falt.

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 xCoNx Snoopy wrote:

Well, GvD's site says he's a producer-designer. Where did you read that he's only a spokesperson?

Nice find, I found my information on the dice corporate site.  But if you read the fine print on the bottom, It says he is just an Associate Producer in the battlefield franchise.  Also, he is only a designer in Battlefield 2142 and an Associate Producer for Battlefield 2142 Northern Strike.  I know it says designer on there, but the fine print says it all...lol

It is like this, the Band of Brothers show that was on HBO a couple years ago, and then is always on the history channel.  It was co-produced by Tom Hanks and Steven Speilberg, but they had nothing to do with the actual creating of the show except managing the people who did create it.  A producer mainly manages, not designs or works on the actual game.

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 TrueFatal wrote:

If you let me in your spawn that is your falt.

Knows how to spawn camp but doesn't know how to spell

Nice

.......speshul

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YES! I remember those that spawn kill me over and over and over, and TK them over and over and over the next time they're on my team! Complete satisfaction!

and of course spawn camping is cheap it's obvious although this has been stated and proven.

Yet it won;t stop people,

Lets say i have a cake, you can have some but only if you beat this barbed wire rubix cube when it's super glued to your hands.

Now lets say i have a cake and you can have it if you can take it from this table.

It's a basic mindset they want points they go for easy cake but they want little effort.



Yet the only time i do so much as any spawn camp is on vally run at the start where i just wait to shank the arty..... im a jerk like that, only other time is when it's by accident and im stuck.

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If you get spawn camped, it's your own fault. You just need to work harder to get out of that predicament. I hate getting spawn camped just like anyone else, but there are ways to get out of it. Spawn on a squad member, if they're at the spawn like you, don't rush out to kill the enemy. Figure out where the enemy is and pick them off, one by one.

That's speaking from a scenario if the entire team is spawn camping you. If there's one or two people, it becomes annoying because those people think they're good, meanwhile, they're not.

 TrueFatal wrote:

If you let me in your spawn that is your falt.

 Kng Of No Pants wrote:

If you get spawn camped, it's your own fault. You just need to work harder to get out of that predicament. I hate getting spawn camped just like anyone else, but there are ways to get out of it. Spawn on a squad member, if they're at the spawn like you, don't rush out to kill the enemy. Figure out where the enemy is and pick them off, one by one.

That's speaking from a scenario if the entire team is spawn camping you. If there's one or two people, it becomes annoying because those people think they're good, meanwhile, they're not.

As I said before, please don't post opinions without votes. 

And the "It's your own fault" argument, is not a valid argument.  Nevermind, I am not getting into a flame war.  Just Post vote with comment as the vote is what I am after, not an argument.

edit.....  Please think of original comment, not the same opinion over and over again from different people.

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Thanks for the votes...

18 say Yes it is cheap
5 say No it is not
1 Undecided

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Sorry about that, I didn't completely read the first post. My fault. I wasn't trying to start anything. Overall, yeah, I'd say it's cheap.

 Kng Of No Pants wrote:

Sorry about that, I didn't completely read the first post. My fault. I wasn't trying to start anything. Overall, yeah, I'd say it's cheap.

Thats alright.  I just started to go off as I hear that excuse so much.  But thank you for rereading and posting vote.

19 say Yes it is cheap
5 say No it is not
1 Undecided

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 XphR wrote:

 Also the dev posts hint more at Camping Spawn or the area around the current base VS Spawn Camping literally posting up mere inches from a known spawn in location and killing the person before they can get their barrings.
  Im not saying every death on spawn is spawn camping because sometimes there are coincidences that result in spawning to death.
  So camping spawn, Im all for it as you would be an idiot to not target the source of the flow. Where as intentionally camping a spawn in location down to a few inches is still bad form.

  Edit - Funkin sounds like you camp spawn VS spawn camp. I find the two quite different. Also I think BF:BC has a decent spawn system I have seen much worse. The option of squad spawning is very helpful and many spawn locations are indoors giving you the ability to find your rout out to death. I just wish the actual locations comprised of spawn in clusters that shift randomly lessening the chance of someone pinning down the beam in.

I couldn't disagree more...
Each base has 2-4 set spawn spots and all you need to do is pay attention to where you spawn and you're ready to spawn kill with the best of them... Add 0 spawn safety and it makes for the worst I've ever seen...
I'll admit that it doesn't seem all that bad at times but IMO that's only because BF games tend to attract a older crowd that is more likely to play the game the way it was intended and not like some little k/d whor... If you put a spawn system like this in a COD or Halo game it would be unplayable...

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no,  its not cheap.  if someone can get to your base and keep you there, they are way better,  just try to get away and keep your squad alive somewhere else.  it doesn't happen that often anyways.

19 say Yes it is cheap
6 say No it is not
1 Undecided

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No, definitely not cheap. This is BF. Spawncamping always has and always will be a part of it.

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 AoW I MEL0DRAMA wrote:

No, definitely not cheap. This is BF. Spawncamping always has and always will be a part of it.

I agree with Melo. It takes skill to actually get into the enemy base attacking/defending. So no, spawn killing is NOT a cheap tactic.

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If your playing a good group of playes then they shouldn't be letting you near their spawn.Its their own fault if i spawn camp cos they should have stopped me.And if you are playing good players then getting there is tough and challenging so it isn't cheap.....

ive had a rethink REDRUM. spawn camping is just being in the enemy base, thats ok bcause i do it from time to time but camping spawn points and getting cheap mofo kills is not ok. besides the only time im in an enemy base is for the arty or to steal/tag/c4/set up traps whatever. most of the time im in and out bcause of pesky recon playas. so if ur Q is spawn camping its legit tactic but if ur Q was camping spawns then hell no its BS. sorry for the incovenience.

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 xBC2xRAMx wrote:

ive had a rethink REDRUM. spawn camping is just being in the enemy base, thats ok bcause i do it from time to time but camping spawn points and getting cheap mofo kills is not ok. besides the only time im in an enemy base is for the arty or to steal/tag/c4/set up traps whatever. most of the time im in and out bcause of pesky recon playas. so if ur Q is spawn camping its legit tactic but if ur Q was camping spawns then hell no its BS. sorry for the incovenience.

I have to actually compliment you ram, you are one of the few people who actually rethought what my question and see the angle I am asking it from.  I am not talking about the base, I am actually talking about the actual spawn point.  After all, the gold crates are in the defenders base.

So actually your vote still stands as "Yes it is cheap"

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 AoW I BlacK I wrote:

 AoW I MEL0DRAMA wrote:

No, definitely not cheap. This is BF. Spawncamping always has and always will be a part of it.

I agree with Melo. It takes skill to actually get into the enemy base attacking/defending. So no, spawn killing is NOT a cheap tactic.

 proMAXXIS wrote:

If your playing a good group of playes then they shouldn't be letting you near their spawn.Its their own fault if i spawn camp cos they should have stopped me.And if you are playing good players then getting there is tough and challenging so it isn't cheap.....

As I said before....

 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

Please think of original comment, not the same opinion over and over again from different people.

Not trying to get into argument, but this is getting ridiculous.  In my mind it takes no skill as it takes no skill to hold down the left joystick and push forward (it is called running!).  There is always 1 or 2 weak spots in the enemies defensive line, ALWAYS!  You are just either exploiting that weak spot, or running through before the enemy can set it up.

On the case of the attackers, they are usually trying to get the objective (the crate), while you are sneaking around to get to their base.  This is why when a team/clan is busy spawn camping the attackers, they usually lose as the attackers usually leave them in the rear and continue attacking the crates, while the defenders are down men because they are 1, 2, or even 3 bases behind.  This shows you are more worried about your personal k/d stats then the overall match!

Thus makes my patented message so true....   "camping = losing!"

But that is my opinion, I am not trying to start an argument, but that is my opinion.  Respect it and leave it.

But thank you for your votes, I will add them now...

19 say Yes it is cheap
9 say No it is not
1 Undecided

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 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

As I said before....

 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

Please think of original comment, not the same opinion over and over again from different people.

Not trying to get into argument, but this is getting ridiculous.  In my mind it takes no skill as it takes no skill to hold down the left joystick and push forward (it is called running!).  There is always 1 or 2 weak spots in the enemies defensive line, ALWAYS!  You are just either exploiting that weak spot, or running through before the enemy can set it up.

On the case of the attackers, they are usually trying to get the objective (the crate), while you are sneaking around to get to their base.  This is why when a team/clan is busy spawn camping the attackers, they usually lose as the attackers usually leave them in the rear and continue attacking the crates, while the defenders are down men because they are 1, 2, or even 3 bases behind.  This shows you are more worried about your personal k/d stats then the overall match!

Thus makes my patented message so true....   "camping = losing!"

But that is my opinion, I am not trying to start an argument, but that is my opinion.  Respect it and leave it.

But thank you for your votes, I will add them now...

19 say Yes it is cheap
9 say No it is not
1 Undecided

I wasn't even thinking about Goldrush. I never play that mode anymore. I usually think of conquest when people talk about Bad Company. I wasn't even aware people did that in Goldrush. When I had played that mode, no one ever did that, that I was aware of. Yeah, that's definitely cheap.

 Kng Of No Pants wrote:

I wasn't even thinking about Goldrush. I never play that mode anymore. I usually think of conquest when people talk about Bad Company. I wasn't even aware people did that in Goldrush. When I had played that mode, no one ever did that, that I was aware of. Yeah, that's definitely cheap.

Yeah it is just as bad, if not worse in Gold rush now.  I remember when the beta, then demo, then the original release,   no one ever did that.  But now since the game has gotten so cheap, it seems we are getting inundated with a bunch of noobs who'd rather spawn camp then play the objective.

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Of course it is.

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20 say Yes it is cheap
9 say No it is not
1 Undecided

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I vote YES - cheap

Re-count REDRUM :)

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