Gamer Tom wrote:

When I said about the ignorance never ceases to amaze me it wasn't aimed at every American, but... every person I have ever heard spout random rubbish they believe about outside their AMAZING AMERICA they have been an American.. nobody from other countries assumes such random sterotypes. To be honest, SOME Americans actually believe England is full of people drinking tea and eating crumpets playing polo or what not... which is what a very few select very upper class ie royalty do.

but the question my good sir is.... could you by chance steal their crumpets and eat them with tea? because if this is possible i would love to join in the fun...i would enjoy a crumpet... and some earl grey... with milk... haha  seriously though i need to get across the pond to a football match one of these days... UGH! NEW YORK SUCKS!

 JSRJONAH wrote:

NEW YORK SUCKS!

I can agree with that.

Los Angeles > New York

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 Landfill AO wrote:

 JSRJONAH wrote:

NEW YORK SUCKS!

I can agree with that.

Los Angeles > New York

haha im not much for california, been there visiting family a couple times, i like new york for the most part but thats cause im in the country, i like quiet most of the time so it works. although is balls cold right now

Rockstar already made a GTA in Europe: The London 1969 expansion pack for the first GTA on PS1. That didn't go over well

And NYC > LA. NYC is pretty much the center of everything when it comes to culture.

 RCameron412 wrote:

Rockstar already made a GTA in Europe: The London 1969 expansion pack for the first GTA on PS1. That didn't go over well

And NYC > LA. NYC is pretty much the center of everything when it comes to culture.

nothing went over well on PS1, i mean hell primal rage for genesis was better...

I understand not all americans are ignorant, but it doesn't help when more then half of them I meet on xbox live will scream insults at me based on my accent... Anyway, just thought I'd share something funny I heard last night.. Some grown american man actually said to me - "I'm fed up of people saying America is the stupidest country in the world, personally I think Europe is the stupidest country in the world" Made me laugh

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 Gamer Tom wrote:

I understand not all americans are ignorant, but it doesn't help when more then half of them I meet on xbox live will scream insults at me based on my accent... Anyway, just thought I'd share something funny I heard last night.. Some grown american man actually said to me - "I'm fed up of people saying America is the stupidest country in the world, personally I think Europe is the stupidest country in the world" Made me laugh

It's the stupid ones that we hear about more often. lol.

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 death knowz wrote:

Looks like Mike has his own personal fanboy.

I thought that game "The Getaway" was a blast to play in part because it was in London and was a changup from a setting in the U.S. A GTA set in London would deff. work, or maybe in some Italian city or perhaps Paris, kinda like a Bourne movie with settings all over the place.

Well, there are different gun laws in different countries throughout Europe. In some European countries, you'll see armed police officers all the time, in other countries you won't. But, we're talking about a creative media here, where you don't have to adhere to reality, if the game adhered too closely to reality, the game wouldn't be half as much fun. Guns may be common place in the US but, even in the most crime-ridden places, it doesn't even come close to the level of chaos and violence you'll experience in the game. So, I think that guns being less commonly available when compared to US, really doesn't matter. As interesting as it would be to see a city outside the US though, fundamentally, the location isn't really what makes the game so good.

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 XBox360 Paladin wrote:

 Gamer Tom wrote:

 Mattes55 wrote:

 Stringaa wrote:

Why do you keep saying GTA: Europe? It's not gonna be set in the whole frickin continent is it....

It annoys me how many Americans always seem to refer to Europe as a country rather than a continent.

Because the rumors are that its in Paris, London, Dublin. The key is its rumored to be somewhere in Europe. Its a blanket title.

That's like having it in Melbourne, Toronto, Rio... 3 random places...

lol, your right. he has no idea what he's talking about. He thinks that Europe is one nation.

While it seems to be universally agreed that Mattes55 isn't doing himself any favours, I don't get the criticism of him just calling it - unofficially obviously - GTA: Europe.

After all, San Andreas was named after a fictitious state that was a hybrid of two states, with three major cities all also renamed. The difference between the real-life models for the cities was also substantial, as the state of California is bigger than England.

If there is a GTA game set in Europe, and set in more than one city, it's hard to believe it would all be cities within one country. They'd likely incorporate different cities from different countries, rename them all, and rename the area/continent in the vein of Liberty City, Vice City and the three cities of San Andreas.

 Mattes55 wrote:

pretentious and boring.

Alot like yourself... open your mind a little, kid.

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 EvoSero wrote:

 XBox360 Paladin wrote:

 Gamer Tom wrote:

 Mattes55 wrote:

 Stringaa wrote:

Why do you keep saying GTA: Europe? It's not gonna be set in the whole frickin continent is it....

It annoys me how many Americans always seem to refer to Europe as a country rather than a continent.

Because the rumors are that its in Paris, London, Dublin. The key is its rumored to be somewhere in Europe. Its a blanket title.

That's like having it in Melbourne, Toronto, Rio... 3 random places...

lol, your right. he has no idea what he's talking about. He thinks that Europe is one nation.

While it seems to be universally agreed that Mattes55 isn't doing himself any favours, I don't get the criticism of him just calling it - unofficially obviously - GTA: Europe.

After all, San Andreas was named after a fictitious state that was a hybrid of two states, with three major cities all also renamed. The difference between the real-life models for the cities was also substantial, as the state of California is bigger than England.

If there is a GTA game set in Europe, and set in more than one city, it's hard to believe it would all be cities within one country. They'd likely incorporate different cities from different countries, rename them all, and rename the area/continent in the vein of Liberty City, Vice City and the three cities of San Andreas.

I like the GTA theme of making fictional American States and cities, so maybe if they basied a game in a fictional European nation?

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 death knowz wrote:

Looks like Mike has his own personal fanboy.

 RCameron412 wrote:

And NYC > LA. NYC is pretty much the center of everything when it comes to culture.

If you consider dirty as hell and terrible weather a culture.

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 Mattes55 wrote:

Gag me. Who would want to play this crap? Seriously If R* does this they will alienate their core audience. I for one wouldn't buy it.

Small cars
in most EU countries the police don't even carry firearms
can anyone name more than one good gangster movie set in europe?

If they do this it will only be pretentious. Don't get me wrong. I like europe but a gta there only feels pretentious and boring.

I didn't read the posts in this thread so excuse me if Im being redundant.


What EU countries have police that dont carry firearms? Im sure there are a few but I believe the vast majority do unless if you can bring me something that tells me otherwise. I took a EU trip this summer to England, France and Italy (2 cities in each country) and every city had police officers with guns (I noticed the French officers carry P-90's, which is cool since it was my first time seeing one in person).

Also Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (one my favorite movies of all time), Snatch and Layer Cake were all great gangster movies set in Europe (England to be more precise)...oh and The Italian Job...and that's just off the top of my head.

And FYI, GTA already has two games set in Europe. GTA: London 1961 and GTA: London 1969, both expansion packs to the original GTA on the PC.

 Landfill AO wrote:

 RCameron412 wrote:

And NYC > LA. NYC is pretty much the center of everything when it comes to culture.

If you consider dirty as hell and terrible weather a culture.

You completely missed the point and i'm not about to start an argument.

And the gang violence and smog of LA sounds a lot more appealing
/sarcasm

 RCameron412 wrote:

 Landfill AO wrote:

 RCameron412 wrote:

And NYC > LA. NYC is pretty much the center of everything when it comes to culture.

If you consider dirty as hell and terrible weather a culture.

You completely missed the point and i'm not about to start an argument.

And the gang violence and smog of LA sounds a lot more appealing
/sarcasm

LOL I'm not trying to start an argument I'm joking but I'll stop since you seem to be taking it a little too seriously. I often forget that not everybody is as easy going as myself.

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 Landfill AO wrote:

 RCameron412 wrote:

 Landfill AO wrote:

 RCameron412 wrote:

And NYC > LA. NYC is pretty much the center of everything when it comes to culture.

If you consider dirty as hell and terrible weather a culture.

You completely missed the point and i'm not about to start an argument.

And the gang violence and smog of LA sounds a lot more appealing
/sarcasm

LOL I'm not trying to start an argument I'm joking but I'll stop since you seem to be taking it a little too seriously. I often forget that not everybody is as easy going as myself.

Maybe a winky emoticon could have saved some misunderstanding. There are definitely some seedy areas here but that's any major city. At least we get snow. Take THAT LA!

Hey, hey now. We're starting to get snow. Plus, I'm about 30-45 mins away from two of the best ski resorts in the country.

Sunshine in the city

snow resorts outside of it.

Sounds good to me.

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 StatiK TactiK wrote:

 Mattes55 wrote:

Gag me. Who would want to play this crap? Seriously If R* does this they will alienate their core audience. I for one wouldn't buy it.

Small cars
in most EU countries the police don't even carry firearms
can anyone name more than one good gangster movie set in europe?

If they do this it will only be pretentious. Don't get me wrong. I like europe but a gta there only feels pretentious and boring.

I didn't read the posts in this thread so excuse me if Im being redundant.


What EU countries have police that dont carry firearms? Im sure there are a few but I believe the vast majority do unless if you can bring me something that tells me otherwise. I took a EU trip this summer to England, France and Italy (2 cities in each country) and every city had police officers with guns (I noticed the French officers carry P-90's, which is cool since it was my first time seeing one in person).

Also Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (one my favorite movies of all time), Snatch and Layer Cake were all great gangster movies set in Europe (England to be more precise)...oh and The Italian Job...and that's just off the top of my head.

And FYI, GTA already has two games set in Europe. GTA: London 1961 and GTA: London 1969, both expansion packs to the original GTA on the PC.

Nice to see someone without ignorance on these boards.

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I believe a city based on Dubai ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai ) would be interesting. Going after billionaire royalty is where its at.

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I don't have any problem with the next one being in Europe, but no matter where it is, I hope there is much more of a rural setting/feel to it.  Doesn't have to be the entire game cause I realize it could possibly be a bit limiting over the course of an entire game.  But y'know how gta4 is divided into islands... well, how about a rural/country section of the game equivalent to one of the big islands in gta4?  This goes for ALL games, not just gta, but I'm uber-tired of seeing New York, Los Angeles, and whatever other big city name you wanna insert "here".  Every large city has a subway, big buildings, and landmarks... we get it already.  It really doesn't matter which one you use anymore... they're all basically the same, at least from a videogame standpoint.

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 YakuzaTeaParty wrote:

 Mattes55 wrote:

can anyone name more than one good gangster movie set in europe?

You must have not seen Ronin......

Mattes55... you are a complete moron.

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 Landfill AO wrote:

I would perfer another Vice City or San Andreas but I wouldnt MIND a europe based game because we all know R* will do it right and make it a great game. Only place I think GTA would fit in Europe is Russia. But they did do a GTA London so they might go back there.

Wouldn't want London though as gun crime is not very high therefore wouldn't really fit the auto shotgun havoc of 4. But who cares. Whereever R* takes it, we know they will make an epic game.

I think the Russian gta game would be awesome!  But being that Niko was from the Balkans and mistaken for a Russian and so many other Russian characters in gta4, I doubt they'd go that route for the very next game.  I could see them going Far East, Italy, or South America.

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 Zombie Jackson wrote:

Am I the only one who wants GTA: Africa? lol or maybe GTA: North Pole?


Meh...stop complaining about something that has not been confirmed when it is then you can complain.

If ya want GTA:Africa... try 'Far Cry 2', that's pretty close!  As well as an awesome game!

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 JMCatrow wrote:

I think the Russian gta game would be awesome!  But being that Niko was from the Balkans and mistaken for a Russian and so many other Russian characters in gta4, I doubt they'd go that route for the very next game.  I could see them going Far East, Italy, or South America.

Those are some good ideas.

On that note, if they did a multi-city GTAV, having it be in and around Italy would be pretty interesting, especially since they could incorporate Nice or Monte Carlo in addition to Italian cities (like how they brought in Vegas alongside LA and San Francisco in San Andreas).

In terms of a single-city GTAV, having it set in London, Rio de Janeiro, Moscow, Hong Kong or Tokyo would be pretty cool.

Even though they did London, that was the older top-down style and doesn't really count. I'd rather see London than Vice City again. I know people love that game, but I just didn't think that one city had enough depth for a single-city GTA.

 Mattes55 wrote:

 Gamer Tom wrote:

USA stupidity never ceases to amaze me (not all of you). Why the hell would it be GTA Europe? You do know Europe is massive? BIGGER then America.. its made up of lots of different countries.. A GTA LONDON COULD WORK... East London... Americans aren't very educated in modern day "britain" as you guys call it. Gun and Knife crime is very high in London. There are proper east end cockney gangsters, plus imagine the extensive underground system, all the famous land marks... Sure it probs won't be chosen as a location, but you guys seriously underestimate how the game could be IF it was set in London. The rest of europe wouldn't work, as they don't speak english.

Ugh your arrogance makes me sick. We know what the hell europe is jackass

Europe? Europe isnt one place mate, also you talk of police not carrying guns, what about the attractive parts of europe like the Balkans, where our main character is from. Im sure the police carry guns out there its like the wild west.

What about GTA sarajevo?

GTA isreal end of.

Where is more violent then a nation founded off violence.

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I think the next GTA should be based in Tokyo or Dubai forget Europe lol

Hell Yeah! Japan,China and Russia. Dealings with the Chinese and russian Mobs as well as the japenese Yakuza Would be delightful. But on the same note, rockstar could do thsame with Europe as they did with San Andreas. Set up Three islands one as London, another as Paris , another as germany and another as Spain.

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 KungPowChckn wrote:

Hell Yeah! Japan,China and Russia. Dealings with the Chinese and russian Mobs as well as the japenese Yakuza Would be delightful. But on the same note, rockstar could do thsame with Europe as they did with San Andreas. Set up Three islands one as London, another as Paris , another as germany and another as Spain.

No because that would make no sense at all, and please don't ask me to explain, work it out in your head.

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