IwillKILLurGOD wrote:
Superman has this. Here's why:
No feats in DB/DBZ/DBGT show Goku with speed or strength that can match Superman. It doesn't matter what they say or what it appears, since it varies episode to episode. Saying something is "faster than light" is untrue except for Instant Transmission, mainly because they can make their beams go at varying speeds, so there's nothing to say Goku can shoot beams or move faster than light. Let's not forget how many times a base human has knocked Goku or any DB character on their quantum singularity, regardless of what their powerlevel is.
Superman really depends on what version you use him. Say you go with Silver Age Superman, someone who's strong enough to juggle planets. Can Goku match the strength of that? No, not a chance. One hit and Goku would be blown apart essentially. And Superman does have feats that show how fast he is. He has flown out of a black hole, travelled through time, flown across the world within seconds, etc. And that's not even during his most powerful times.
Hell, if you go with someone like Superman Prime, imagine those feats plus someone who can punch through dimensions.
Goku doesn't have a chance in hell, regardless of form, mainly because his forms never showed him doing much. And in a battle, you can't ASSUME anything, you can only go with what has been shown.
Freiza is capable of destroying a planet with his death ball, by GT Goku has surpassed Freiza 1000 times over. Heck, Cell and Freiza were both trying to defeat him at the same time, both of which were in their final forms. Goku was not only in his base form but had also been reduced to a child's body and was still capable of toying with them quite easily.
Goku can move extremely quickly in battle when he wants to, this is probably most apparant when Hercule is trying to watch him fight Cell but can't see a single thing; it then moves to a scene of the two fighting at a relatively normal pace. This shows that they actually slow it down to some extent so we can actually tell what is happening, were as it's obvious they're still moving super fast because Hercule can't see them.
"Let's not forget how many times a base human has knocked Goku or any DB
character on their quantum singularity, regardless of what their
powerlevel is."
Erm... maybe in Dragonball but i don't think anyone in here is comparing Kid Goku to Superman...
"Hell, if you go with someone like Superman Prime, imagine those feats plus someone who can punch through dimensions."
Well Gotenks has screamed his way through dimensions and SSJ3 Gotenks is much weaker than Goku at his max....
I'm starting to get the impression you don't know much about the dragonball franchise at all
And i'm pretty sure everyone is talking about modern age superman.
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