TCO Termanator wrote:

 Etherealness wrote:

One thing I have noticed is that on COD4 there is little if any communication between team mates.  Maybe people just trash talking to team mates, but no one is spotting the enemy and telling the rest of the team where they are.  COD3 seemed to have that in abundance, so something about the set-up of COD4 is eliminating the "team" feeling.  Maybe it's because of the nature of WWII?  Even younger people probably know how important winning that war was to the entire world and weather youre on Allies or Axis there is a feeling of "team."  COD4 online is good but seems a little sterile. I like the weopons upgrades but when you have them all where do you go from there?  You can only combine certain upgrades to make it more of an even playing field but I can't get past the lack of in-match teamwork.  The games are too short and not to mention it is probably the laggiest game Ive ever played on 360.  Nothing like viewing the kill-cam only to spot your character getting lit-up and just standing there doing nothing while you know both of you were trading about 20 shots.  I'm not saying COD3 doesnt have lag....it's natural for the server to lag a little based on locations of connections but for overall fun I must say COD3 is a little better.

  I disagree. When I started playing COD 3 I noticed I got far fewer friend requests and less team play. I guess it was because of so many plaerys you would only kill the same person a few times in a game.

I suppose that is true if you play bigger games. usually happened in war and I would get less notice or friend requests and team talk would be minimal. But I usualy played SCTF in matches maybe 8 or less on each team. You can't blame it on the game it's just how you play and what you play really.

 CASgamer398 wrote:

 TCO Termanator wrote:

 Etherealness wrote:

One thing I have noticed is that on COD4 there is little if any communication between team mates.  Maybe people just trash talking to team mates, but no one is spotting the enemy and telling the rest of the team where they are.  COD3 seemed to have that in abundance, so something about the set-up of COD4 is eliminating the "team" feeling.  Maybe it's because of the nature of WWII?  Even younger people probably know how important winning that war was to the entire world and weather youre on Allies or Axis there is a feeling of "team."  COD4 online is good but seems a little sterile. I like the weopons upgrades but when you have them all where do you go from there?  You can only combine certain upgrades to make it more of an even playing field but I can't get past the lack of in-match teamwork.  The games are too short and not to mention it is probably the laggiest game Ive ever played on 360.  Nothing like viewing the kill-cam only to spot your character getting lit-up and just standing there doing nothing while you know both of you were trading about 20 shots.  I'm not saying COD3 doesnt have lag....it's natural for the server to lag a little based on locations of connections but for overall fun I must say COD3 is a little better.

  I disagree. When I started playing COD 3 I noticed I got far fewer friend requests and less team play. I guess it was because of so many plaerys you would only kill the same person a few times in a game.

I suppose that is true if you play bigger games. usually happened in war and I would get less notice or friend requests and team talk would be minimal. But I usualy played SCTF in matches maybe 8 or less on each team. You can't blame it on the game it's just how you play and what you play really.

 Haetor wrote:

I respect your opinion MANTRA but I think you didn't give COD3 a proper chance.  Looking at your achievements you didn't even rank as a Lieutenant or get several other achievements that even a modest amount of playing would give you.  One thing you did say that may differentiate our opinions is team play: I know maybe 4 other people with 360s so I usually am playing with random people.  If you're playing mostly with your friends I can see how you might prefer COD4.  Also, the same guys that did COD3 will make COD5, just like 2 and 4 were made by the same guys, so it's not that COD3 somehow failed and the programmers were replaced.

i did play player matches more and didnt want to play ranked matches. I did play 3 weeks of COD3 offline and online. But i felt compared to COD2 and 4 i didnt like 3, thank you unlike some others for being more respectful nice 2 c some people or arnt complete ***holes.

MANTRA 16 KLOWN wrote:

No im not tyvm. U dont know what FFA stands for? hahaha wow! FFA is Free For All, i found it more challenging than the team games as im not fond of paying with randoms and they dont call where they die, call out enemies, i tried all the gametypes and found relying on myself better.

The sniper rifle in CoD3 actually shoots where you aim it.

'Nuff said.

 MANTRA 16 KLOWN wrote:

 Haetor wrote:

I respect your opinion MANTRA but I think you didn't give COD3 a proper chance.  Looking at your achievements you didn't even rank as a Lieutenant or get several other achievements that even a modest amount of playing would give you.  One thing you did say that may differentiate our opinions is team play: I know maybe 4 other people with 360s so I usually am playing with random people.  If you're playing mostly with your friends I can see how you might prefer COD4.  Also, the same guys that did COD3 will make COD5, just like 2 and 4 were made by the same guys, so it's not that COD3 somehow failed and the programmers were replaced.

i did play player matches more and didnt want to play ranked matches. I did play 3 weeks of COD3 offline and online. But i felt compared to COD2 and 4 i didnt like 3, thank you unlike some others for being more respectful nice 2 c some people or arnt complete ***holes.

MANTRA 16 KLOWN wrote:

 ii NakedGoat ii wrote:

YOU are a nub. CoD3 was funner. I like the whole series.

IM A NUB?? COD3 was rubbish compared to the others in the series i loved COD2 and im loving COD4 ive played almost every shooter on the 360 and i dont especially dislike any of them more than the other besides COD3, the MP i only liked was the FFA, which was fun till i got another game. With all the shooters out there atm i would said COD3 is by far the most rubbish. Dnt get me wrong i love WW2 shooters just hated that 1 

iiNakedGoat ii wrote: Yeah your a nub. FFA? wow, you must've really sucked

No im not tyvm. U dont know what FFA stands for? hahaha wow! FFA is Free For All, i found it more challenging than the team games as im not fond of paying with randoms and they dont call where they die, call out enemies, i tried all the gametypes and found relying on myself better.

Nope this game is dead, FFA means Furocious Flying Anteaters because I said so.

 Warp2 wrote:

 ASHTHECAT3 wrote:

COD3 does require you to play very differently and I feel that it does take more skill.  (my opinion of course)

When I first started playing COD4 multiplayer, the first thing I thought was, "Dang, everybody's awesome at this game."  And I didn't think that in a good way.  How could everyone be so good at a game that has been out for a week or so? 

It's because COD4's multiplayer has been severely dumbed down.  Anyone can pick it up and rack up kill after kill.  It's because of the automatic weapons and the small map layouts.

You couldn't do that in COD3.  In COD3, it took time to get good.  And I felt proud when I got better and better at it with the different weapons.  When you won a game in COD3, you felt a surge of triumph because you worked together with your team to get the win. 

I don't feel any of that in COD4.

You nailed it right there.  The game is dumbed down and it's too easy to kill, especially if you camp in one of the many dark corners hidden away in these poorly designed maps.  The perks are generally silly and the lack of one-shot headshots removes yet another incentive to improve.  The game grows boring very quickly, unlike COD3 (or COD2) where you can feel yourself improve and the matches feel epic.  In COD4, I rarely care about winning or losing.  For some reason, it just doesn't seem to matter.  In COD3, you could feel the tide of the games (War and CTF, especially) turning and it really became quite immersive.  I loved it.

Im really liking COD4 but its nothing on COD3.

And you hit the nail on the head about one-shot headshots. nothing better than with a KAR-98. COD4 is spray and pray in comparison.  and whats everyone talking about saying COD4 maps are bigger than COD3's? 3's were huge in comparison. as for epic matches. exactly. do i care if i lose on COD4? not really. i cared in COD3, alot.

why dont i care? i dont know but it surely says something about overall fun of the game

im looking forward to COD5 already and going back to WW2 and Treyarch!!

 The Pain Relief wrote:

The sniper rifle in CoD3 actually shoots where you aim it.

'Nuff said.

it does that on CoD4 as well,

the maps on COD4 are smaller we know that, n it depends on wht wep you use, better players spray very little. I only spray when its through a wall with a LMG thts it. I doubt they would go bakc to another WW2 shooter the genre is stale, i wont buy cod4 if they make it another WW2 shooter.  

 MANTRA 16 KLOWN wrote:

 The Pain Relief wrote:

The sniper rifle in CoD3 actually shoots where you aim it.

'Nuff said.

it does that on CoD4 as well,

 MANTRA 16 KLOWN wrote:

Im gonna get flamed out for this but i dont care.

COD4 rocks compared to COD3. The only reason why i played it as it was the first game i got and i had nothing else to play. The WW2 genre is getting stale and old and another WW2 COD game would have been awful. All i play is shooters, Halo, GRAW, COD, R6V, BF2, Gears and many others so i aint bias 2 one game. COD3 was my least favorite next to GRAW. I got soo bored of COD3 its stayed on myshelf almost since i got it. COD4 has not been dumbed down. If you play more team based gametypes like Seach and Destroy it requires teamwork and communication. COD4 resparked my clan in2 playing a game together after R6V.  If you want to play with friends on opposite teams make a private game and you can select your team. When im playing with a whole clan team we communcate where we are and where they enemy is, if you die you call out where u died = simple teamwork. Its the same in every shooter ive played. If you just play with randoms it will be every man for himself. When i played COD3 with friends i still hated it. Found the vehicles in it cheap and lame, both the SP and MP didnt go for me. COD4 will stay in my 360 for months to come. Btw never had a problem with entering games or lag for that matter. The game handles lag very well and never have to lead shots like you do in gears.  

If you dont like seing urself be killed by a nub press X and skip it straight away and you respawn faster as well. Playing againts other good clans in matches is far better than paying nubs.

COD4 got 2 awards in the 2007 gaming awards. Best FPS and best Military based game. COD3 never got any and the change to IW said everything. They realised they had made a mistake and gave some1 else a chance, IW made a much better job. COD3 was a flop and was a disgrace to the series.

 

 

No flaming here.

The part about playing with friends is a good point.  However, there are problems with COD4 private chat system.  Also the lag is so upsetting to everyone that most of the time I just hear my teammates *** about the lag and bad connections.

As far as leading shot, where do you lead them?  The person lagging may be moving in any direction; that's why the single shot weapons in COD4 suck.  Best to use automatic weapons and spray to and fro from the hip.  This way you may be able to make up for the lag.  And believe me there is a lot of lag in COD4 you just can see it like in COD3.  Look at the kill cam the next time you are killed; you'll see it.

I still play both games, but for me COD3 rocks COD4.  I don't expect people to feel the same, but if you read this entire posting at least you will understand why people prefer COD3.

I also believe that you did not play enough on-line COD3.  There is a real sense of accomplishment at mastering the different kits as opposed to getting achievements and better weapons.  It takes a long time to get good at COD3 you need to learn the large COD3 maps and master the kits.  In COD4, it took about 1 day of on-line play without even playing single player to get good.  I rank 1st or 2nd with mild lag, within the top 4 with minimal lag, but with the usual severe lag I can rank from 4 to last.  I jump out of games once I see that the lag is really bad and try to get into a game that isn't lagging too much, but it's hard to find one. 

Maybe I'll get to play you in COD4 sometime or even COD3, perhaps.

 Seraph Xer0 wrote:

COD4<COD2<COD3

Treyarch may suck but they still put together better games than IW.

I believe is what he meant to say.

I always preferred COD3 over COD2 in both online and offline play, and I feel the same way now in regards to COD4. The online is OK but COD3's is better, and let's not kid ourselves, the COD4 storyline is cliched cookie cutter rubbish. It had a few good moments in there admittedly but for the most part it was rot, and not even remotely original rot. They may as well have based the game on a real conflict, as they have proven they have all the creative writing ability of a handless retard in a sack. How many times do I have to stop some wanker from firing a missile anyway? COD4, GRAW2, R6V, etc etc. We get it, missiles are bad. Can we move on now?

Bring on COD5!

 Warp2 wrote:

 Neillydun wrote:

Feel exactly the same way. Its not helped by the miniscule times allocated for each gametype. I miss those 1hr long CoD3 TDMs, especially the close ones.

I still think the most fun I've ever had on XBL was a late Saturday night playing in a (random!) 60 minute CTF player match on Mayenne.  The game went back and forth with very even teams and everyone on my team played relatively well together to build up a lead.  However, the other team managed to take our flag in the last minute to tie it up and give them the victory on points.

Inexplicably my team had left, leaving me to fend off a number of onrushing enemies.  If I remember correctly, I took out 4 or 5, but the last made it through.  What a rush, though!   I think I gained two friends from that match.

I might have been in that match to..You joined it if im not mistaken and it was full of me and a bunch of people I play with..Man that match was epic and crazy and to this day I still cant believe we lost because we came back so darn well...GAH.. lol

 StupidGuppy wrote:

 Warp2 wrote:

 Neillydun wrote:

Feel exactly the same way. Its not helped by the miniscule times allocated for each gametype. I miss those 1hr long CoD3 TDMs, especially the close ones.

I still think the most fun I've ever had on XBL was a late Saturday night playing in a (random!) 60 minute CTF player match on Mayenne.  The game went back and forth with very even teams and everyone on my team played relatively well together to build up a lead.  However, the other team managed to take our flag in the last minute to tie it up and give them the victory on points.

Inexplicably my team had left, leaving me to fend off a number of onrushing enemies.  If I remember correctly, I took out 4 or 5, but the last made it through.  What a rush, though!   I think I gained two friends from that match.

I might have been in that match to..You joined it if im not mistaken and it was full of me and a bunch of people I play with..Man that match was epic and crazy and to this day I still cant believe we lost because we came back so darn well...GAH.. lol

 mOokalaylay wrote:

you are a retard..

Get lost retard...

I play COD 4 now but I'll still stand up for COD 3, it is very fun online. COD 4 needs a War gametype, you would think with the fifty gametypes they have, there would be a war one.  The sniper rifle in COD 4 sucks, you can't hit s%&# with it. As far as single player goes, Veteran on COD 3 is much harder, I could get nowhere on that game on Veteran. Vet on COD4 is hard but you can do it.

 BlitzburghFan wrote:

 The sniper rifle in COD 4 sucks, you can't hit s%&# with it.

Speak 4 urself mate, i love the snipers in COD4, and prefer the bolt action snipers. My shots always hit home with the M40A1 or the R700 but the 50.Cal often misses and hate it 4 tht. You prob dont like it cus u suck with it..( not a threat, just a clear assumption) Its the same about when people complain about lag. I dnt ever see a lot of lagg in COD4 only with rubbish hosts then i quit. The kill cam is laggy not the game.

 MANTRA 16 KLOWN wrote:

 BlitzburghFan wrote:

 The sniper rifle in COD 4 sucks, you can't hit s%&# with it.

 

Speak 4 urself mate, i love the snipers in COD4, and prefer the bolt action snipers. My shots always hit home with the M40A1 or the R700 but the 50.Cal often misses and hate it 4 tht. You prob dont like it cus u suck with it..( not a threat, just a clear assumption) Its the same about when people complain about lag. I dnt ever see a lot of lagg in COD4 only with rubbish hosts then i quit. The kill cam is laggy not the game.

 Warp2 wrote:

 MANTRA 16 KLOWN wrote:

 BlitzburghFan wrote:

 The sniper rifle in COD 4 sucks, you can't hit s%&# with it.

 

Speak 4 urself mate, i love the snipers in COD4, and prefer the bolt action snipers. My shots always hit home with the M40A1 or the R700 but the 50.Cal often misses and hate it 4 tht. You prob dont like it cus u suck with it..( not a threat, just a clear assumption) Its the same about when people complain about lag. I dnt ever see a lot of lagg in COD4 only with rubbish hosts then i quit. The kill cam is laggy not the game.

If there were no problems with sniper rifle accuracy, Infinity Ward would not have already acknowledged it and said that the first update will fix them.   My "clear assumption" is that you're probably pretty inexperienced with the COD series and probably cannot tell the difference between the way the guns work now and the way they SHOULD.

ive played all of the COD series actually. I KNOW how guns should work and i know there is a problem with the shots not registering but thats live for you. My shots havent missed at all and mine have registered. Maybe you just have a s*** a** connection !!

 MANTRA 16 KLOWN wrote:

 Warp2 wrote:

 MANTRA 16 KLOWN wrote:

 BlitzburghFan wrote:

 The sniper rifle in COD 4 sucks, you can't hit s%&# with it.

 

Speak 4 urself mate, i love the snipers in COD4, and prefer the bolt action snipers. My shots always hit home with the M40A1 or the R700 but the 50.Cal often misses and hate it 4 tht. You prob dont like it cus u suck with it..( not a threat, just a clear assumption) Its the same about when people complain about lag. I dnt ever see a lot of lagg in COD4 only with rubbish hosts then i quit. The kill cam is laggy not the game.

If there were no problems with sniper rifle accuracy, Infinity Ward would not have already acknowledged it and said that the first update will fix them.   My "clear assumption" is that you're probably pretty inexperienced with the COD series and probably cannot tell the difference between the way the guns work now and the way they SHOULD.

ive played all of the COD series actually. I KNOW how guns should work and i know there is a problem with the shots not registering but thats live for you. My shots havent missed at all and mine have registered. Maybe you just have a s*** a** connection !!

 Warp2 wrote:

 MANTRA 16 KLOWN wrote:

 Warp2 wrote:

 MANTRA 16 KLOWN wrote:

 BlitzburghFan wrote:

 The sniper rifle in COD 4 sucks, you can't hit s%&# with it.

 

Speak 4 urself mate, i love the snipers in COD4, and prefer the bolt action snipers. My shots always hit home with the M40A1 or the R700 but the 50.Cal often misses and hate it 4 tht. You prob dont like it cus u suck with it..( not a threat, just a clear assumption) Its the same about when people complain about lag. I dnt ever see a lot of lagg in COD4 only with rubbish hosts then i quit. The kill cam is laggy not the game.

If there were no problems with sniper rifle accuracy, Infinity Ward would not have already acknowledged it and said that the first update will fix them.   My "clear assumption" is that you're probably pretty inexperienced with the COD series and probably cannot tell the difference between the way the guns work now and the way they SHOULD.

ive played all of the COD series actually. I KNOW how guns should work and i know there is a problem with the shots not registering but thats live for you. My shots havent missed at all and mine have registered. Maybe you just have a s*** a** connection !!

I see you've conveniently ignored the fact that Infinity Ward, developers of the game, feel there *is* a problem with the sniper rifles and are addressing it in a patch.  But I guess it's possible you know more about the game than they do.

I know there is a problem with the snipers but ur connection like every other game when playing online has an effect.

Ive been playing COD3 for almost year now and wow what a game, theres only so much i can take with getting killed with the M4 from across the map on COD 4.

Ive only got 3 days played on COD 4 and im already back to COD 3, BRING ON COD5.

COD 4 may collect dust for a while !!

 ii NakedGoat ii wrote:

True that, I'm getting so bored of it, the only thing that may keep me around until CoD5 are the tourneys coming up.

Anymore info please?

 MrBirdTurd GOWP wrote:

Call of duty will not be made by treyarch it was such a falure that they will no longer make a COD game this is a fact it did not sell and not as many people liked it.
Just because you like or dislike dosent mena everyone feels the same way so sorry to burst your bubble i didint mind cod3 i liked it better than 2 maybe but yeah

I popped in my CoD3 CD and decided to play some war with a friend of mine and man... I can't believe I let this game catch dust.

Im lvl 54 on CoD4 and it's the same *** over and over in the game. The game is still fun, but damn it's so repetative.

I love the fact that CoD 3's blur when aiming is more realistic,and the ability to survive grenades and have little to no vision but have the ability to fight back with only the sound of your heart beating amazes me. CoD 4 does this, but it isnt as appealing and your chances are higher with grenades killing you from longer distances.

But...They are two different beasts and I respect that. Im just amazed at how I stopped playing this game for months in order to play other games.