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   11-04-2009, 5:17 PM
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Wish they would make the official announcement already! Put this *** in the arcades!!!
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   11-04-2009, 5:17 PM
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   11-04-2009, 5:21 PM
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I just wanna hear them confirm GUY! Jesus cmon GUY!!!!!!!

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   11-04-2009, 5:26 PM
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 SIKWIDIT510 wrote:
I just wanna hear them confirm GUY! Jesus cmon GUY!!!!!!!


Yeah i want him alot also, have you seen the new developers blog? theres a poster which appears to have Ibuki on it as someone is working on the game...... sort of confirms Ibuki.

Heres the picture its on the top left poster, can you see it?
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   11-04-2009, 5:31 PM
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I want to know the pros and cons of everyone having the same hp.



ummmm...Pros....in a Zangief vs Chun Li match Chun Li wouldn't have to connect 5 hits for every 1 that Zangief lands. Duh
And cons....I can't think of any. Can you?

If they leveled out the HP for Gief and Chun Li (just two examples) than Zangief would still have the slight advantage cuase his moves do more damage, but it wouldn't be the insurmountable HP lead it is now. That's not saying "base the game on reality"...which i never even hinted at.

I don't see how evening out the HP's would have any downside. But im open to enlightenment.

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   11-04-2009, 5:38 PM
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People love uphill battles. They want a challenge, they want that sweeter victory. You just want to make it fair like Tekken I supper. Which is fine. But so far you listed one match up. You don't they have to change the whole game around everyone having the same hp you must be mistaken. You listed one pro for one character so I wasn't enlightened. It's gonna be reduce that increase this then you're still at square one. Boring.
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   11-04-2009, 5:39 PM
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 MADEIRA STEVE88 wrote:
 SIKWIDIT510 wrote:
I just wanna hear them confirm GUY! Jesus cmon GUY!!!!!!!


Yeah i want him alot also, have you seen the new developers blog? theres a poster which appears to have Ibuki on it as someone is working on the game...... sort of confirms Ibuki.

Heres the picture its on the top left poster, can you see it?


ooo yawp i see it haha nice

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   11-04-2009, 6:13 PM
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Latest Developer Blog summarised translation, imo very good translation at that.


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   11-04-2009, 6:20 PM
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 parasite hilton wrote:
People love uphill battles. They want a challenge, they want that sweeter victory. You just want to make it fair like Tekken I supper. Which is fine. But so far you listed one match up. You don't they have to change the whole game around everyone having the same hp you must be mistaken. You listed one pro for one character so I wasn't enlightened. It's gonna be reduce that increase this then you're still at square one. Boring.


the challenge is in outsmarting your opponent and outplaying them. Evening out the HP's isn't eliminating the uphill battle, as i said, since most characters have different damage outputs/combo abilities. And like i said, i only listed one match up to save space, you think im really gonna write out a synopsis for all 25 character matchups? On the other side, you haven't given ANY reason why you think leveling the HPs is bad, so i wasn't enlightened either homey.

Im not saying you're wrong, or Im right, im just trying to compare notes/ideas. If you can think of some cons, i'd love to hear them, instead of criticisms of my ideas. And on the point you made, yes, people do like uphill battles, but I think more people probably like fair matches.

if you were playing call of duty and the opposing team had twice the amount of health, or took twice the amount of bullets to die would that be an "uphill battle", or a "lopsided" advantage? Considering you have all different weapons and loadouts (much like different move sets in SF4), it wouldn't be fair, and in most cases the team with the buffed HP will win.

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   11-04-2009, 6:34 PM
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O.o lol she was chubbier lol...i think in one older articles they said the even made her boobs bigger for the final version LOL

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   11-04-2009, 7:10 PM
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 SIKWIDIT510 wrote:
I just wanna hear them confirm GUY! Jesus cmon GUY!!!!!!!


Yeah i want him alot also, have you seen the new developers blog? theres a poster which appears to have Ibuki on it as someone is working on the game...... sort of confirms Ibuki.

Heres the picture its on the top left poster, can you see it?
are you sure? it looks like a box to me, action figure?
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   11-04-2009, 7:10 PM
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 MADEIRA STEVE88 wrote:
 SIKWIDIT510 wrote:
I just wanna hear them confirm GUY! Jesus cmon GUY!!!!!!!


Yeah i want him alot also, have you seen the new developers blog? theres a poster which appears to have Ibuki on it as someone is working on the game...... sort of confirms Ibuki.

Heres the picture its on the top left poster, can you see it?
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   11-04-2009, 7:11 PM
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yea is a action figure box you could see the plastic lol

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   11-04-2009, 7:44 PM
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I think a tricky Fuerte is one of Gief's own tough match ups so I am not sure you're seeing the pains Fei has to go through with Gief, Parasite.  I don't have the mind game tools Fuerte has...I have to find a way to get up in his face without being slammed or Lariated..so that part makes me just back up and find spacing to land an HK into a sweep and I have to time crossups with the MK perfectly...which isn't easy epecially against a hosting Gief...and be grabbed out of it or Lariated out of it easily.  It's not only the power of the moves but the Priorities.  Some characters have much more priority over others and that's the part that feels unfair.  Yes we chose to use our lower tier character but how can it not be possible, albeit FAIR, to level the playing field a lil more. 

I love the game and think SF4 is great...it's just that some match ups don't feel balanced and there are only a few tweaks needed, including with my OWN character (his simply super for whopping dmg as opposed to a combo of 6 hits ((which took me ages to learn)) after the FADC, 6 hits separately entered including the start up Jump in HK + s. HP + Flamekick fadc into a hail mary hopeful 3 hits...understandable that Ryu's is it 16 hits? ultra is damage scaled-and those 16 hits were done all by themself I should add...but just 3 of Fei's tough to land FADC ultra punches do crap dmg???), that are needed imo.  They have the same formula for dmg scaling over every character's base dmg number and that part needs to be changed pertaining to the difficulty of the move needed to pull off if you ask me.  I whiff the 3rd punch a lot and I've needed just a fraction more of dmg so many times on the few times that I DO land the 3rd punch, and even have lost matches as a result of the just a fraction of dmg left needed that it makes me feel like I'm working too hard for nothing.  I want the same rewards of just doing an SPD...that FADC'd ultra with 3 hits does even less than that simple double 360 motion when my opponent has less than 17% or so health..depending on the strength of my Ultra bar.

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   11-04-2009, 7:52 PM
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any character trying to "get into giefs face" doesnt have a smart master....

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   11-04-2009, 8:00 PM
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 BRILLO da SCRUB wrote:
any character trying to "get into giefs face" doesnt have a smart master....


u should see the replay vid i got vs a gief...

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   11-04-2009, 8:02 PM
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But I want to.  Am I supposed to just poke him with crouching heavy punches cuz that's all Wong was doing in that vid Suplex showed me.  That's boring.  I wanna see some videos then if there are more fun ways to beat him.  Enlighten me.  And yes I do need a Gief master.  I wanna get some more matches in with Suplex and Mr Newman.

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   11-04-2009, 8:34 PM
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I just got back from running errands and checked the forums and I just jumped into my first cm mode match and whaddya know...I got Gief.  So after watching Wong's vid I decided to start off with pokes...it then lead to me getting openings and was able to get my combos in.  I finished 2nd round with a cross up + HP + fist of fury 3 hit finish & would you beeeeeeelieve it he lived with a speck of health LOL.  Got him barely with just a sliver on my bar as well with a sweep kick but dang it this also pertains to my argument about that combo not doing a crapola worth of dmg I wish I had recorded this match...I gotta get my s.hit set up one of these days...just don't know how to yet.

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   11-04-2009, 8:38 PM
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It felt balanced that match but only cuz the guy wasn't that good.  I want to face the almighty Suplex and Newman again...those guys knew their poo.  And that's not to say that it wouldn't feel like a fair win if they beat me...once I played it safe I realized that Gief also has trouble getting up close...hmm I shall change my perspective...perhaps it's just been me...I needed that glow..and I just made it to my 3rd semifinal ever.  Sometimes you're just feeling it and sometimes ya ain't.  Sorry for being offtopic I forget what thread I'm posting in lol.

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   11-04-2009, 10:07 PM
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they better not touch vega hes fine the way he is =/

i dont know why people say hes weak...hes the best character and strongest character for me in the game.

everyone else just seems...*Throws Up*


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   11-05-2009, 12:30 AM
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Only nuisance I have with Vega is when he flies over head he makes my moves buffer into something I didn't want to do lol..namely my command move that takes ages to recover from.

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   11-05-2009, 1:23 AM
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 AWDTeam wrote:
 MADEIRA STEVE88 wrote:
 SIKWIDIT510 wrote:
I just wanna hear them confirm GUY! Jesus cmon GUY!!!!!!!


Yeah i want him alot also, have you seen the new developers blog? theres a poster which appears to have Ibuki on it as someone is working on the game...... sort of confirms Ibuki.

Heres the picture its on the top left poster, can you see it?
are you sure? it looks like a box to me, action figure?


Yeah I guess so, but why is it in the picture? perhaps its a tease?
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   11-05-2009, 4:30 AM
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dont know if my fellow newsman posted it  but heres picks of the bounus stages http://www.destructoid.com/bonus-stages-coming-to-super-street-fighter-iv-154068.phtml
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   11-05-2009, 4:47 AM
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dont know if my fellow newsman posted it  but heres picks of the bounus stages http://www.destructoid.com/bonus-stages-coming-to-super-street-fighter-iv-154068.phtml


This is the best post I've ever seen!!!!!!!
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   11-05-2009, 4:52 AM
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dont know if my fellow newsman posted it  but heres picks of the bounus stages http://www.destructoid.com/bonus-stages-coming-to-super-street-fighter-iv-154068.phtml


This is the best post I've ever seen!!!!!!!

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   11-05-2009, 4:56 AM
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Lol how about you both split a cookie.

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   11-05-2009, 4:58 AM
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works for me Wink [;)]
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   11-05-2009, 5:17 AM
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People love uphill battles. They want a challenge, they want that sweeter victory. You just want to make it fair like Tekken I supper. Which is fine. But so far you listed one match up. You don't they have to change the whole game around everyone having the same hp you must be mistaken. You listed one pro for one character so I wasn't enlightened. It's gonna be reduce that increase this then you're still at square one. Boring.


the challenge is in outsmarting your opponent and outplaying them. Evening out the HP's isn't eliminating the uphill battle, as i said, since most characters have different damage outputs/combo abilities. And like i said, i only listed one match up to save space, you think im really gonna write out a synopsis for all 25 character matchups? On the other side, you haven't given ANY reason why you think leveling the HPs is bad, so i wasn't enlightened either homey.

Im not saying you're wrong, or Im right, im just trying to compare notes/ideas. If you can think of some cons, i'd love to hear them, instead of criticisms of my ideas. And on the point you made, yes, people do like uphill battles, but I think more people probably like fair matches.

if you were playing call of duty and the opposing team had twice the amount of health, or took twice the amount of bullets to die would that be an "uphill battle", or a "lopsided" advantage? Considering you have all different weapons and loadouts (much like different move sets in SF4), it wouldn't be fair, and in most cases the team with the buffed HP will win.


so you're telling me sim should have the same hp as everyone else lmmfao....and gief needs to be a normal person and it wont be a disadvantage if big slow gief has no extra hp...

THATS THE SUPIDEST ISHT I'VE EVER HEARD

When people make basketball teams they don't say I won't put these 2 in because there too tall, and I want it to be fair.  When they put the 2 big men in it takes away from their fast break ability....thats like saying every ufc fighter should train the same amount as the next time...if you gettin destroyed by a character and this don't change thats your own fault and your lack of work effort i'm tired of people crying like fhags about what every other character should do....if you got your skills up in the matchups....then you shouldnt have mismatches...so stop the whining and b****ing about how unfair it is...and get better sessions then the 3 game sessions u havin with everyone that everyone says oh i played him and we only played 2 games or...we played 4 games he finally won and had to leave....dont put your problems off on other ppl its so annoying

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   11-05-2009, 5:19 AM
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But I want to.  Am I supposed to just poke him with crouching heavy punches cuz that's all Wong was doing in that vid Suplex showed me.  That's boring.  I wanna see some videos then if there are more fun ways to beat him.  Enlighten me.  And yes I do need a Gief master.  I wanna get some more matches in with Suplex and Mr Newman.
OMFG UR SO STUCK ON SCRUBBISH TENDENCIES THAT IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT N E BODY SAYS YOU ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO LEARN THE MATCHUPS AND YOU PLAY THEM HOW YOU WANT SO THEREFORE YOU DON'T DESERVE TO WIN....BUT DON'T CRY BECAUSE YOU DON'T....


ITS YOUR OWN FAULT


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   11-05-2009, 5:27 AM
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I just got back from running errands and checked the forums and I just jumped into my first cm mode match and whaddya know...I got Gief.  So after watching Wong's vid I decided to start off with pokes...it then lead to me getting openings and was able to get my combos in.  I finished 2nd round with a cross up + HP + fist of fury 3 hit finish & would you beeeeeeelieve it he lived with a speck of health LOL.  Got him barely with just a sliver on my bar as well with a sweep kick but dang it this also pertains to my argument about that combo not doing a crapola worth of dmg I wish I had recorded this match...I gotta get my s.hit set up one of these days...just don't know how to yet.
....oh wow jus when i get annoyed...and say you should try playing right...then the next post says...
"so i tried to play right and it works" lol maybe i coulda read another post, but i get soooo tired of crybaby bullisht
i don't main a top tier character i learn matchups i do better....

it's like me i grew up in the hood....i went to school got a decent job n i do better

but its people sittin on they arss want EVERYTHING in the world to change for them...HOW STUPID IS THAT...

don't blame gief because you jump into his lariats....

95% of the time when ppl are complaining....ITS OVER COMMON SENSE BULLISHT....GIEF HAS BEEN THE SAME WAY FOR LIKE 85 GAMES

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