NO...Not cheap.  Part of the game.  It is your fault that you get spawn killed, most likely because you are an inferior player.

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 TH3partyPOOOP3R wrote:

NO...Not cheap.  Part of the game.  It is your fault that you get spawn killed, most likely because you are an inferior player.

Where have you been, chico?

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 xCoNx Snoopy wrote:

 TH3partyPOOOP3R wrote:

NO...Not cheap.  Part of the game.  It is your fault that you get spawn killed, most likely because you are an inferior player.

Where have you been, chico?

I've been around...You just didn't recognize my other personalties.  I feel like being snotty today.  Hehe.

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yes its a cheap tactic but sitting outside the enemy base is alright (they should've never let you get that close to begin with)

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 RK1 BadCandy wrote:

I vote YES - cheap

Re-count REDRUM :)

I just went back over it, I think I got it right....

If someone could just double check me....

22 say Yes it is cheap
10 say No it is not
1 Undecided

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mic broke, watch for finger.

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 TH3partyPOOOP3R wrote:

NO...Not cheap.  Part of the game.  It is your fault that you get spawn killed, most likely because you are an inferior player.

Read Below.....

 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

And the "It's your own fault" argument, is not a valid argument.  Nevermind, I am not getting into a flame war.  Just Post vote with comment as the vote is what I am after, not an argument.

edit.....  Please think of original comment, not the same opinion over and over again from different people.

 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

As I said before....

 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

Please think of original comment, not the same opinion over and over again from different people.

Not trying to get into argument, but this is getting ridiculous.  In my mind it takes no skill as it takes no skill to hold down the left joystick and push forward (it is called running!).  There is always 1 or 2 weak spots in the enemies defensive line, ALWAYS!  You are just either exploiting that weak spot, or running through before the enemy can set it up.

On the case of the attackers, they are usually trying to get the objective (the crate), while you are sneaking around to get to their base.  This is why when a team/clan is busy spawn camping the attackers, they usually lose as the attackers usually leave them in the rear and continue attacking the crates, while the defenders are down men because they are 1, 2, or even 3 bases behind.  This shows you are more worried about your personal k/d stats then the overall match!

Thus makes my patented message so true....   "camping = losing!"

But that is my opinion, I am not trying to start an argument, but that is my opinion.  Respect it and leave it.

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mic broke, watch for finger.

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I don't see your problem with the "it's your own fault" argument. It is your fault if they do, so it's a completely valid argument.

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I could argue until I am blue in the face about this argument, but I wont.

I will just say this, if you join a game, start a round, go after the enemy and get killed, then all squad mates are dead.  How is it my fault if I only have 1 place to spawn and when I do, I immediately get blown up by C4?  I mean come on, it is a weak argument. 

As I said before,

 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

In my mind it takes no skill as it takes no skill to hold down the left joystick and push forward (it is called running!).  There is always 1 or 2 weak spots in the enemies defensive line, ALWAYS!  You are just either exploiting that weak spot, or running through before the enemy can set it up.

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mic broke, watch for finger.

Proud member of the "5 Min Long Club".

 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

I could argue until I am blue in the face about this argument, but I wont.

I will just say this, if you join a game, start a round, go after the enemy and get killed, then all squad mates are dead.  How is it my fault if I only have 1 place to spawn and when I do, I immediately get blown up by C4?  I mean come on, it is a weak argument. 

As I said before,

 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

In my mind it takes no skill as it takes no skill to hold down the left joystick and push forward (it is called running!).  There is always 1 or 2 weak spots in the enemies defensive line, ALWAYS!  You are just either exploiting that weak spot, or running through before the enemy can set it up.

Im pretty sure we're talking about two different degrees of spawn camping..

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both relate to camping snoopy and how some of the clan girls think it takes big skill to pull off a camp

Red's first point we saw Saturday night
come in defending, crate 6 on End of the Line gets taken as we get in the game, being camped hard.  "we" didn't get camped, the camp was already on when we got there. 
we finished the game, stayed positive, got a new room, minus clan campers

point 2 talks to the fact that on these maps, it's pretty easy for one guy to push the run button and slip past the enemy, this is another piece of the "no skill to camp" mentality we believe in.  it takes less skill to stand behind someone and pull the right trigger, or place c4 where someone spawns, than it does to get the count right for glitching the arty.   

we think it takes one or two tards on your team to let one or two campers slip buy and then your getting camped. 

different, not really, it's about the same weak game play some like to employ

i think yes, its cheap

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 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

I could argue until I am blue in the face about this argument, but I wont.

I will just say this, if you join a game, start a round, go after the enemy and get killed, then all squad mates are dead.  How is it my fault if I only have 1 place to spawn and when I do, I immediately get blown up by C4?  I mean come on, it is a weak argument. 

As I said before,

 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

In my mind it takes no skill as it takes no skill to hold down the left joystick and push forward (it is called running!).  There is always 1 or 2 weak spots in the enemies defensive line, ALWAYS!  You are just either exploiting that weak spot, or running through before the enemy can set it up.

In a situation like that, your best solution would be to leave the game and find a new one.  Your team probably sucks and you would be wasting your time.  Everyone who plays this game spawn killed at some point.  Some more than others obviously, but it is part of the game, so make it easy on yourself and  go find a competitive game.  

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 xTKAx PvtPUTZZZ wrote:

 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

I could argue until I am blue in the face about this argument, but I wont.

I will just say this, if you join a game, start a round, go after the enemy and get killed, then all squad mates are dead.  How is it my fault if I only have 1 place to spawn and when I do, I immediately get blown up by C4?  I mean come on, it is a weak argument. 

As I said before,

 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

In my mind it takes no skill as it takes no skill to hold down the left joystick and push forward (it is called running!).  There is always 1 or 2 weak spots in the enemies defensive line, ALWAYS!  You are just either exploiting that weak spot, or running through before the enemy can set it up.

In a situation like that, your best solution would be to leave the game and find a new one.  Your team probably sucks and you would be wasting your time.  Everyone who plays this game spawn killed at some point.  Some more than others obviously, but it is part of the game, so make it easy on yourself and  go find a competitive game.  

Alright putz, don't start with me...lol

Yeah I know, but that isn't the objective of this thread.  I am trying to prove to some "clan idiots" who keep saying that it is not cheap and their little poll on their website proves that all gamers think it is not.   It is simply a poll to get the other people's opinion that don't go to these people's website.

23 say Yes it is cheap
10 say No it is not
1 Undecided

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mic broke, watch for finger.

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hey! ...on Dec. 22nd 'Family Guy: Something something something darkside' gets released on DVD....sorry, back on tiopic now

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2/75 Hooaah!

This thread needs moar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2lvjEJcfEA

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 II PARALLAX II wrote:

hey! ...on Dec. 22nd 'Family Guy: Something something something darkside' gets released on DVD....sorry, back on tiopic now

 elBoydo wrote:

This thread needs moar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2lvjEJcfEA

ok I admit....lol....and.....lol

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mic broke, watch for finger.

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 elBoydo wrote:

This thread needs moar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2lvjEJcfEA

That was cool

But yeah it is cheap don't try to argue that it isn't

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24 say Yes it is cheap
10 say No it is not
1 Undecided

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 TH3partyPOOOP3R wrote:

NO...Not cheap.  Part of the game.  It is your fault that you get spawn killed, most likely because you are an inferior player.

says the toll with a .8 kdr and a .o9 knife kdr



oh yeah, i know, but your the one who's hiding

 II Durbin II wrote:

both relate to camping snoopy and how some of the clan girls think it takes big skill to pull off a camp

Red's first point we saw Saturday night
come in defending, crate 6 on End of the Line gets taken as we get in the game, being camped hard.  "we" didn't get camped, the camp was already on when we got there. 
we finished the game, stayed positive, got a new room, minus clan campers

point 2 talks to the fact that on these maps, it's pretty easy for one guy to push the run button and slip past the enemy, this is another piece of the "no skill to camp" mentality we believe in.  it takes less skill to stand behind someone and pull the right trigger, or place c4 where someone spawns, than it does to get the count right for glitching the arty.   

we think it takes one or two tards on your team to let one or two campers slip buy and then your getting camped. 

different, not really, it's about the same weak game play some like to employ

This coming from the guy who says Arty Glitching takes skill...

he started this poll because he or his buddies were spawn camped by SFU.  This entire issues started because his buddy Durbin was glitching the ARTY & a member of SFU TK'd him.  Hate mail flowed, I got messages.

Spawn killing will always be a part of every FPS game, deal with it.  A "poll" will not make you right or wrong. It will not change the fact that you will get spawn camped again if we play you. 

 SFU Big Papi J wrote:

This coming from the guy who says Arty Glitching takes skill...

he started this poll because he or his buddies were spawn camped by SFU.  This entire issues started because his buddy Durbin was glitching the ARTY & a member of SFU TK'd him.  Hate mail flowed, I got messages.

Spawn killing will always be a part of every FPS game, deal with it.  A "poll" will not make you right or wrong. It will not change the fact that you will get spawn camped again if we play you. 

hmm, Real mature Papi.

You notice how I try to keep most of my opinion out of it.  Yes I stated my opinion and stated the reasoning behind it, and even submitted a sample of how I see it as cheap.

And did you notice how most people on these forums are really mature about their comments? 

Notice a difference from the EA forums where there is ALOT more immaturity there?

It was told to me, when this same poll was on EA Forums, that everyone thinks it is not.  So I decided to come to forums where more mature gamers post comments.  And so far, there is over 2 - 1 votes to say it is cheap.  ESPECIALLY the way your clan members do it.

ALSO, notice how I tried to keep your clan's name and members names out of this thread?

This is not trying to change anyone, THAT IS NOT THE INTENT OF THIS THREAD!!!

It is to get an honest answer to an honest question!

As I said in the very beginning of this thread.....

 x REDRUM 781 x wrote:

I want your honest opinion to the following question.....

Do you think spawn camping for kills for this , or any other game, is a cheap tactic?

Don't lie, just be honest.  Even if you do it, that isn't the question.  No one will think differently of you  if you do it, I just want to know if you think it is a cheap, unfair, tactic.

Just post "Yes" or "No", and if you want to comment, please be brief AND MATURE!

ALSO, Please no flame wars as I will then ask a Moderator to remove your post and take appropriate actions towards you.

It is alright if you think it is skill, or it is alright if you think it takes no skill, just vote honestly!

So please grow up a little on these forums or just go back to the EA Forums!

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mic broke, watch for finger.

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 SFU Big Papi J wrote:

This coming from the guy who says Arty Glitching takes skill...

he started this poll because he or his buddies were spawn camped by SFU.  This entire issues started because his buddy Durbin was glitching the ARTY & a member of SFU TK'd him.  Hate mail flowed, I got messages.

Spawn killing will always be a part of every FPS game, deal with it.  A "poll" will not make you right or wrong. It will not change the fact that you will get spawn camped again if we play you. 

WARNING, SPIN DOCTOR IN THE HOUSE

Surprised you finally showed here papa smurf, but you really should try to get the story straight.
You really lose credibility when you don't know whats happened, so let me help you get the facts straight.

1st thing 1st papa smurf,  I never said it takes skill to glitch the arty, i said not everyone can do it, period. 
spin number one on your behalf

#2 So it's okay for you to try start polls on the ea forums where your known, but it's not okay for Red and I to start polls on the X-box forums where we are known    at least Red and I ask "yes or no" without bogus 3rd answers that will dilute the poll. 
Hypocrite

#3 This didn't start because your mates camped us, it started because your mates tk-ed us. 
spin # 2 on your behalf.........get the story straight. 

And yes, i fast shot the arty that game and to take out the empty tow missile........ 
You and worm were so worried about the arty being fast shot vs. heading to the enemy base and making a difference by destroying ANYTHING in the enemies deployment.........(and you had the heli)

with team mates like you on patrol, not concentrating on the enemy, is it any wonder why someone might fast shot the arty to cover for dip sticks like you who aren't working on the enemy!?! We never said camping isn't a part of fps gaming, we're well aware of how many clans like to make their name. 

We called you out for being Hypocrites (x2)  for your self righteous stance on arty fast shot. 
You guys claim you want to "level" the playing field, but then you'll go camp someones spawn. 

It's okay for you to get the easy kills by planting c4 in spawn points, or standing on the very spot someone spawns and swinging your knife, but it's not okay to fast shot the arty

Hypocrite (x3)
you and your boys are hypocrites and your inability to see this is why were here. 

And really, since things got quiet on the ea forums, you came here? 
things slow on your web page?  looking for some free press are we?

and lastly, why don't you guys know whats going on amongst yourselves?
Red got a "why can't we be friends message" the other day from one of your boys, but here you dunking your arm deep in the DRAMA pot

 II Durbin II wrote:

things slow on your web page?  looking for some free press are we?

I was wondering if anyone else got that.  Kinda seemed like to me he was trying to advertise for his clan.

Also, if you goto This thread, he posts that you should goto the EA clan forums, where all his clan hang out, for other people to play with.

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mic broke, watch for finger.

Proud member of the "5 Min Long Club".

p.s.  I don't know if you know this or not, but the Xbox Code of Conduct also applies to their forums.   So you might want to keep it a little more mature as they don't tolerate as much "flamage" as EA does.

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mic broke, watch for finger.

Proud member of the "5 Min Long Club".

 SFU Big Papi J wrote:

This coming from the guy who says Arty Glitching takes skill...

he started this poll because he or his buddies were spawn camped by SFU.  This entire issues started because his buddy Durbin was glitching the ARTY & a member of SFU TK'd him.  Hate mail flowed, I got messages.

Spawn killing will always be a part of every FPS game, deal with it.  A "poll" will not make you right or wrong. It will not change the fact that you will get spawn camped again if we play you. 

dude.  you really need to shut your mouth and read all the comments that have already been said.

he admitted he glitched the arty, that is not what this is about.  it is about the spawn camping.  it isn't even about the tk'ing.  you sound like the little kid who goes home to cry to mommy.

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Honestly. I don't know what the big deal is. This is just a video game. Everyone has been spawncamped and taken some beats in this game at one time or another. Unless you're one of those meow meows that just quits out when the odds are against you. Take it like a man. Stop crying.

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I was just sculpting my guns.

 AoW I MEL0DRAMA wrote:

Honestly. I don't know what the big deal is. This is just a video game. Everyone has been spawncamped and taken some beats in this game at one time or another.

It's called a discussion..... Hence the purpose of a forum.

 AoW I MEL0DRAMA wrote:

Unless you're one of those meow meows that just quits out when the odds are against you. Take it like a man. Stop crying.

And as far as this part;

Yup, I will either break free and retaliate in your spawn, or leave to find a different room as I feel no one will pad their stats from me.

Now please vote or just leave!

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mic broke, watch for finger.

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 AoW I MEL0DRAMA wrote:

Honestly. I don't know what the big deal is. This is just a video game. Everyone has been spawncamped and taken some beats in this game at one time or another. Unless you're one of those meow meows that just quits out when the odds are against you. Take it like a man. Stop crying.

Mello, you started out great, but you end by letting us know you have no clue whats going on. 

Red and I are standing up for regulars peeps and they can't stand the fact someone stood up to them. 

they invite you to their forum so "we can have it out" then mod us we can't post.
then they don't accept your application after they "dare you" to come to their forum.
they take this *** to 2 other boards, where they get shut down big time.
then, stalk you to other games and team kill peeps off your friends list who have nothing to do with it, instead of coming after us. 

so no, we're not crying there little sis, we're standing up to the e-tough boi's who can't take the fact that someone called them out and called them for their bs.   

 

 II Durbin II wrote:

Mello, you started out great, but you end by letting us know you have no clue whats going on. 

Red and I are standing up for regulars peeps and they can't stand the fact someone stood up to them. 

they invite you to their forum so "we can have it out" then mod us we can't post.
then they don't accept your application after they "dare you" to come to their forum.
they take this *** to 2 other boards, where they get shut down big time.
then, stalk you to other games and team kill peeps off your friends list who have nothing to do with it, instead of coming after us. 

so no, we're not crying there little sis, we're standing up to the e-tough boi's who can't take the fact that someone called them out and called them for their bs.

I have no idea what you're even talking about. Lol. You sound like a crazy person to me. You were referring to someone else from AoW perhaps??

Anyways, bump: Honestly. I don't know what the big deal is. This is just a video game. Everyone has been spawncamped and taken some beats in this game at one time or another. Unless you're one of those meow meows that just quits out when the odds are against you. Take it like a man. Stop crying.

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 Ron Burgandy wrote:

I was just sculpting my guns.

He tried to explain it even though he sounded like he was rampling.

But any way to melodrama again....

It's called a discussion..... Hence the purpose of a forum.

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I'm in no clan, I don't need a support group.

mic broke, watch for finger.

Proud member of the "5 Min Long Club".