I LeM0N I wrote:

this is a huge joke i dont understand how microsoft could honestly not make the game for live

and there only ecuse is that "IT would ruin the integrity of the original game..."

 

BS

this is a huge joke i dont understand how microsoft could honestly not make the game for live

they'll just charge you for the live version in a year or so when "xbox originals plus" is in the 08 fall update

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 Skillet98 wrote:

 WhiffleBallTony wrote:

 Skillet98 wrote:

 volta volta wrote:

 trixie360 wrote:

 WhiffleBallTony wrote:

Will Halo have Xbox LIVE functionality? Please, tell me! I need to know!

No, this isn't a new or updated game with new code. This is the classic Halo: Combat Evolved. The coolness is that you can download it over Xbox LIVE--you don't have to mess with a disc.

How awesome is that?  So awesome.

I mean, God forbid Bungie expend any effort into this.

Because effort isn't cool, right?

I doubt Bungie had any real say in this. It was probably mostly MS's decision since I think they still own the rights to Halo.

Yeah, most likely. And, Skillet, what are you doing over here at the Xbox forums?

Well, I guess I could say the same about you. I used to post here all the time back when Dead Rising was really big and everybody was trying to get the achievements. Haven't been here in ages though. I saw a link to this thread on another forum (not Bungie) and decided to sign in and share my two cents.

My two cents are... MS SUCKS for not adding any additional content. I agree with the boycott of Xbox Originals! Of course, it's the perfect scam, you know. MS isn't putting any actual work into this other than throwing it up on their servers. It's pure profit. Why bother with silly things like achievements when the very first $15 is money in their pocket since there isn't even a licensing fee to make up for?

I totally agree with you. This is such a retarded scam, I can't even describe it. I mean, I knew Microsoft was dumb, but not this dumb.

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wow no mp or achievements ,why even try selling them? there OLD GAMES

xbox originals is a terrible idea.

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I'm amazed by how many people are really complaining about this.

Xbox are launching these originals as part of their 5th Birthday celebrations. It is about the Original games, the clue is in the title!

If they were going to do updates and introduce achievement points (which most of the time are pointless anyway) and online play for games which did not have online play before they would have to call it Updated with Achievement points and Online play games.

This is an Optional Feature. You do not have to buy these downloads. If you don't want them, just don't buy them. There is Zero point in complaining about lacking features which you never had anyway?!!

Get over yourselves and play Halo 3 which is Halo updated with achievement points and online play!

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 ZombieTron wrote:

I'm amazed by how many people are really complaining about this.

Xbox are launching these originals as part of their 5th Birthday celebrations. It is about the Original games, the clue is in the title!

If they were going to do updates and introduce achievement points (which most of the time are pointless anyway) and online play for games which did not have online play before they would have to call it Updated with Achievement points and Online play games.

This is an Optional Feature. You do not have to buy these downloads. If you don't want them, just don't buy them. There is Zero point in complaining about lacking features which you never had anyway?!!

Get over yourselves and play Halo 3 which is Halo updated with achievement points and online play!

Actually there is a point in complaining believe it or not.

They could have used the time to develop something worthwhile.

This is just a way to play the same games that are already B/C just without a disk.

What is the advantage in that?

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 Norrath Reaver wrote:

This is just a way to play the same games that are already B/C just without a disk.

What is the advantage in that?

Personally for me there is no advantage, but some people will want to take advantage of this, especially if they never played these games before, or their original disks are damaged.

If you don't want to take advantage of it you don't have to, but not all of the games that will be available are easy to find for cheaper than the download so there maybe a title that you are interested in.

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Yes it's a shame that there are no archivements, Yes they're the same games that you got on disc on your original xbox, and every game is $15, So what???, IF people don't like them, Don't buy them, I don't see any microsoft employee putting a gun to anyone's  head to buy a game, no one is forcing anybody, why do people like to get melodramatic about it, as simple, you can get the game you want , when you want it, THIS IS AN OPTION, NO MORE NO LESS, why are people whining about something they're not gonna buy or they already have, and if anybody get a better deal than xbl on their local gamestop just go for it, please.

to norrat reaver

(They could have used the time to develop something worthwhile.) like what? don't get enough games as it is?

(This is just a way to play the same games that are already B/C just without a disk) : Exactly, if you don't buy them, poeple around the world will still buy them, don't flatter yourself thinking the world revolves around you.

What is the advantage in that?, what advantage? did you got a 360 to brag about it , or to play games man, stop acting like they owe you something because you choose the console not the other way around.

What is it with the mouth-breathers on these forums? Don't you morons realize there is a difference between voicing a complaint and whining? Yes, we (the gamers voicing our complaints) understand that Microsoft isn't forcing anyone to buy their "Xbox Originals". I doubt you could find anyone willing to argue that more choices is somehow bad for the consumer. The point is simple...Microsoft could have made this service into something special, instead they decided to take the easy/cheap route.

I would have paid $50 for an XBL enabled version of Halo:CE and would have happily purchased all the games I already own if I could unlock achievements and use the guide button. I'm not asking for every game re-released to have Live multiplayer but there are certain games where it makes sense. At the very least Microsoft could ensure that these "Xbox Originals" will function flawlessly. They have already put up information stating that certain games won't run well given certain situations. This whole situation has become a major debacle....I'm sorry if some people might view me as melodramatic but given the lack of originality with "Xbox Originals" I feel that it is justified. Hopefully Microsoft will start listening to their customers before announcing such an "amazing" feature that in reality is lackluster and uninspired.

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 hrah20 wrote:

to norrat reaver

(They could have used the time to develop something worthwhile.) like what? don't get enough games as it is?

(This is just a way to play the same games that are already B/C just without a disk) : Exactly, if you don't buy them, poeple around the world will still buy them, don't flatter yourself thinking the world revolves around you.

What is the advantage in that?, what advantage? did you got a 360 to brag about it , or to play games man, stop acting like they owe you something because you choose the console not the other way around.

Why are you so angry? Your posts are nonsensical and idiotic. Is Norrat Reaver not allowed to express his opinion without you accusing him of being a narcissist? You are probably right though, we should all heed your advice...we should "stop acting like they owe you something because you choose[sic] the console not the other way around" and just be grateful for anything that Microsoft offers. Frankly I think you are pissed off because you don't have XBL Gold.

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The game im interested in was Fable since I never got around to playing it even though I bought it for my brother for x-mas the year it came out. But all this talk about No achievements doesnt make me want to buy it. I just dont see the point of playing the game without achievements, . Sure I dont always get 1000/1000 in every game but I just loved it when that Achievement Unlocked pops out. But a game I do look forward for an original is Mech Assault, that game did have Xbox Live, I hope they release that in the future

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 MiLkWeEd 619 wrote:

The game im interested in was Fable since I never got around to playing it even though I bought it for my brother for x-mas the year it came out. But all this talk about No achievements doesnt make me want to buy it. I just dont see the point of playing the game without achievements, . Sure I dont always get 1000/1000 in every game but I just loved it when that Achievement Unlocked pops out. But a game I do look forward for an original is Mech Assault, that game did have Xbox Live, I hope they release that in the future

 

let alone its not the most up to date fable game. that game is incomplete.

I understand that the games might not have achievements....minor issue, but still willing to listen.

What I do have a question about is:

What is the memory requirement for these games?

I see everything about the cost (1200 points) and the current titles available (Burnout 3: Takedown, Crash Bandicoot: Wrath of Cortex, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, Fable, Fuzion Frenzy, Halo, Psychonauts)

But I am unable to find any information regarding the amount of download space needed.  Hypothetically, I want to buy Burnout 3.  If the game consumes 3 Gigs of space...I no longer want it.  If it consumes 750 MB or even 1.3 Gig...it might be more worth it to me.

CAN ANYONE ANSWER THIS????

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I think this is a great idea, just implimented wrong.  Here's some thoughts: 

1st, it's too expensive.  $15 for a non-physical game that is actually CHEAPER from the game store is a bonehead move.

2nd, The size will limit people's ability to download more than a small handful of titles.  Hopefully they will use some compression to lower the size a bit of the downloads, otherwise it'll be like the Wii and their 500MB of memory which fills up WAY too fast.

3rd, the thought of a lot of hard-to-get games is enticing to say the least, but again... $15 for what they should be charging at most $7-$10 for is just mind-blowing.

4th, The achievements are NOT that big of a deal.  The games just as they are is a great service to those who can get their favorite games on their HDs when they might not be able to find a copy in stores.

5th, the DMR fiasco is what scares me.  I'm still fighting this issue with my replacement 360 and have over $500 worth of downloads that are useless if I'm offline.  This is the BIGGEST and one of my only complaints about the 360, which is otherwise the greatest system I've ever owned.

The bottom line is MS needs to restructure the pricing on Live (not the service, just the downloads) and the need to clear up the DMR fiasco.  Otherwise, this is a great idea, and I love it.  I've got the 120GB hard drive and I've only got 40GB left... so that leaves room for what, maybe 8 original xbox game downloads, considering I don't download anything else?   Hmmmmm........

 trixie360 wrote:

 WhiffleBallTony wrote:

Will Halo have Xbox LIVE functionality? Please, tell me! I need to know!

No, this isn't a new or updated game with new code. This is the classic Halo: Combat Evolved. The coolness is that you can download it over Xbox LIVE--you don't have to mess with a disc.

"The coolness is that you can download it over Xbox LIVE--you don't have to mess with a disc." Oh yeah cause those discs are just a pain in the butt.

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 tabasco cat wrote:

I understand that the games might not have achievements....minor issue, but still willing to listen.

What I do have a question about is:

What is the memory requirement for these games?

I see everything about the cost (1200 points) and the current titles available (Burnout 3: Takedown, Crash Bandicoot: Wrath of Cortex, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, Fable, Fuzion Frenzy, Halo, Psychonauts)

But I am unable to find any information regarding the amount of download space needed.  Hypothetically, I want to buy Burnout 3.  If the game consumes 3 Gigs of space...I no longer want it.  If it consumes 750 MB or even 1.3 Gig...it might be more worth it to me.

CAN ANYONE ANSWER THIS????

 

Aaron Greenberg said that the Halo download was around 2 gigs, so some will be a little more, some a little less.  I think 2 gigs is about the breaking point for people, so that's not too bad.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6182876.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;1

 

And despite no achievements, etc, I'm still thinking about Burnout.

 

To the people that keep saying "stop whining", I don't think of this as whining - I just would like to see an optimum product for my money.  And, yes, that means achievements - cause for me, they are FUN to unlock and I'd like to see them included.  That being said, I think it's a great idea - it just needs some tweaking...

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 podj35 wrote:

 tabasco cat wrote:

I understand that the games might not have achievements....minor issue, but still willing to listen.

What I do have a question about is:

What is the memory requirement for these games?

I see everything about the cost (1200 points) and the current titles available (Burnout 3: Takedown, Crash Bandicoot: Wrath of Cortex, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, Fable, Fuzion Frenzy, Halo, Psychonauts)

But I am unable to find any information regarding the amount of download space needed.  Hypothetically, I want to buy Burnout 3.  If the game consumes 3 Gigs of space...I no longer want it.  If it consumes 750 MB or even 1.3 Gig...it might be more worth it to me.

CAN ANYONE ANSWER THIS????

 

Aaron Greenberg said that the Halo download was around 2 gigs, so some will be a little more, some a little less.  I think 2 gigs is about the breaking point for people, so that's not too bad.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6182876.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;1

 

And despite no achievements, etc, I'm still thinking about Burnout.

 

To the people that keep saying "stop whining", I don't think of this as whining - I just would like to see an optimum product for my money.  And, yes, that means achievements - cause for me, they are FUN to unlock and I'd like to see them included.  That being said, I think it's a great idea - it just needs some tweaking...

 

Excellent post and thank you for attempting to help answer my question.  So I should expect somewhere in the 2 Gig neighborhood. 

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 pregnant nun 1 wrote:

 trixie360 wrote:

 WhiffleBallTony wrote:

Will Halo have Xbox LIVE functionality? Please, tell me! I need to know!

No, this isn't a new or updated game with new code. This is the classic Halo: Combat Evolved. The coolness is that you can download it over Xbox LIVE--you don't have to mess with a disc.

no xbox live multiplayer & no Achievements= very poor sales and alot of people pissed at microsoft
"cough"atleast make some kind of patch for us to play xbl multiplayer"cough" ask bungie or something idk

I don't understand what you'r complaining about. All XBOX Orignal games that play on the 360 have no achievements to begin with. MS is doing the same thing as Sony and Nintendo. Neither one of them are updating any of their back catalogue.

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 tabasco cat wrote:

 podj35 wrote:

 tabasco cat wrote:

I understand that the games might not have achievements....minor issue, but still willing to listen.

What I do have a question about is:

What is the memory requirement for these games?

I see everything about the cost (1200 points) and the current titles available (Burnout 3: Takedown, Crash Bandicoot: Wrath of Cortex, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, Fable, Fuzion Frenzy, Halo, Psychonauts)

But I am unable to find any information regarding the amount of download space needed.  Hypothetically, I want to buy Burnout 3.  If the game consumes 3 Gigs of space...I no longer want it.  If it consumes 750 MB or even 1.3 Gig...it might be more worth it to me.

CAN ANYONE ANSWER THIS????

 

Aaron Greenberg said that the Halo download was around 2 gigs, so some will be a little more, some a little less.  I think 2 gigs is about the breaking point for people, so that's not too bad.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6182876.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;1

 

And despite no achievements, etc, I'm still thinking about Burnout.

 

To the people that keep saying "stop whining", I don't think of this as whining - I just would like to see an optimum product for my money.  And, yes, that means achievements - cause for me, they are FUN to unlock and I'd like to see them included.  That being said, I think it's a great idea - it just needs some tweaking...

 

Excellent post and thank you for attempting to help answer my question.  So I should expect somewhere in the 2 Gig neighborhood. 

 

You're welcome - and yes, I'd say 2 gig is pretty realistic.  Those of us with the 20 gig HD's might have a struggle, but it doesn't seem totally unreasonable - that's about the size of 2 larger demos...

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IMO this is Microsoft's attempt to reproduce the success of the Wii's Virtual Console and failing....and pissing people off. At least with the Wii VC those games are hard to find. Nobody expects anything new with those....putting Halo 1 up for download as is is just plain stupid. It's easily findable and most times CHEAPER than a XBLA download that no Halo 1 fan is going to go for because they've already got a game disc.

I can see how it would be a waste of time and efforts on MS to make these games available...  to the people that have them and played them way back when.

but, myself..  I never had the original XBOX.  my friend had Crimson Skies and i played it and loved it.!!!  so i'm happy to buy it without online option.  as well as Halo and Fable.  I've heard some much good stuff about them that i would really like to play those games.

 ZombieTron wrote:

I'm amazed by how many people are really complaining about this.

Xbox are launching these originals as part of their 5th Birthday celebrations. It is about the Original games, the clue is in the title!

If they were going to do updates and introduce achievement points (which most of the time are pointless anyway) and online play for games which did not have online play before they would have to call it Updated with Achievement points and Online play games.

This is an Optional Feature. You do not have to buy these downloads. If you don't want them, just don't buy them. There is Zero point in complaining about lacking features which you never had anyway?!!

Get over yourselves and play Halo 3 which is Halo updated with achievement points and online play!

 

the point is the lack of quality... the updates would be a bonus (all arcade games get treated that way even if they are 20 yrs old) the real problem is MS is selling buggy games through LIVE. MS should not endorse that kind of substandard service

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 tabasco cat wrote:

I understand that the games might not have achievements....minor issue, but still willing to listen.

What I do have a question about is:

What is the memory requirement for these games?

I see everything about the cost (1200 points) and the current titles available (Burnout 3: Takedown, Crash Bandicoot: Wrath of Cortex, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, Fable, Fuzion Frenzy, Halo, Psychonauts)

But I am unable to find any information regarding the amount of download space needed.  Hypothetically, I want to buy Burnout 3.  If the game consumes 3 Gigs of space...I no longer want it.  If it consumes 750 MB or even 1.3 Gig...it might be more worth it to me.

CAN ANYONE ANSWER THIS????

 

just as an example supposedly halo: ce is 2 GB but each title is different

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I understand that it's for an original theme.. But you can pick up a lot of the games listed for cheaper than the 1200 Microsoft points would cost.. And it wouldn't take as much memory as downloading them. :S 

Does anybody get the feeling that Trixie / Microsoft stopped reading this thread?  5 pages without a response? 

theres a reason I sold my 100+ original xbox games.  I HAVE A 360! why would I wanna waste HDD space playing old xbox games?  and mainly theres no achievements and you can find most these games cheaper than they r selling them on here.  and they wont take up yo HDD space

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 hrah20 wrote:

to norrat reaver

(They could have used the time to develop something worthwhile.) like what? don't get enough games as it is?

(This is just a way to play the same games that are already B/C just without a disk) : Exactly, if you don't buy them, poeple around the world will still buy them, don't flatter yourself thinking the world revolves around you.

What is the advantage in that?, what advantage? did you got a 360 to brag about it , or to play games man, stop acting like they owe you something because you choose the console not the other way around.

Like what you ask?  Clan Support, Better Zune Support, 16:10 Support, Support for more Audio/Video Codecs, gyro controller support, etc

 

Second of all, when did I say the world revolves around me?  What I said was that this is a near worthless feature.  The only people who will benefit are those who want to overpay for a digital copy of a game.  I can pick up every game on the B/C list for around $10 or less.

I was asking what the advantage was in them making XBox Originals.  There really doesn't seem to be one at all.

Also when have I sat around here bragging about my 360.

I think perhaps you forgot your meds today?

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