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   09-25-2008, 7:17 PM
Re: Betreff: Re: Jasper Sightings
 OutwarLackey123 wrote:
I'm assuming they call it Casper in the UK, and if not...They really need to swap the letter out.


They'd be in the US before here in the UK, and we'd call it the Jasper, or at least I do, but then again, I know stuff even the OP didn't, I just don't choose to involve my self in such speculation, it happens when it happens.

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   09-25-2008, 7:23 PM
Re: Betreff: Re: Jasper Sightings
 Sythedragon1985 wrote:
 OutwarLackey123 wrote:
I'm assuming they call it Casper in the UK, and if not...They really need to swap the letter out.


They'd be in the US before here in the UK, and we'd call it the Jasper, or at least I do, but then again, I know stuff even the OP didn't, I just don't choose to involve my self in such speculation, it happens when it happens.


The thing that I find stupid, they say they opened it up but won't provide pictures. I'm assuming they realized they're wrong and don't want to look like complete idiots.
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   09-25-2008, 7:28 PM
Re: Betreff: Re: Jasper Sightings
 OutwarLackey123 wrote:
 Sythedragon1985 wrote:
 OutwarLackey123 wrote:
I'm assuming they call it Casper in the UK, and if not...They really need to swap the letter out.


They'd be in the US before here in the UK, and we'd call it the Jasper, or at least I do, but then again, I know stuff even the OP didn't, I just don't choose to involve my self in such speculation, it happens when it happens.


The thing that I find stupid, they say they opened it up but won't provide pictures. I'm assuming they realized they're wrong and don't want to look like complete idiots.


It won't be a Jasper, I know for a fact it won't be.

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   09-25-2008, 7:39 PM
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I wish someone could just give us an approximate manufacturing date for what would be possibly be Jaspers.
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   09-25-2008, 7:48 PM
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 OutwarLackey123 wrote:
I wish someone could just give us an approximate manufacturing date for what would be possibly be Jaspers.


I'd expect them to be common early 09 in all honesty, I mean, I'll give you what happened to me.

January of 08 I bought a Falcon, Manufacture date somewhere in 07, late 07, it's a falcon, gave it to my brother after a while.

Bought my self an Elite 5 months down the line, same LOT, 2 days difference in manufacture, Falcon. Consoles obviously aren't getting moved so much.

The only difference is one had the BenQ, mine had the hitachiPOS.

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   09-25-2008, 8:00 PM
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There could be a few Jaspers out there! If you look back no one would believe I had a Falcon until I took pictures! The first Falcons were manufactured last part of August, and it takes about 1 month to ship. The 65nm CPU have been ready for a year, so all that was needed was to reduce the GPU. Remember they only manufacture a few consoles at first! 

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   09-25-2008, 8:21 PM
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 JWSpeed wrote:

There could be a few Jaspers out there! If you look back no one would believe I had a Falcon until I took pictures! The first Falcons were manufactured last part of August, and it takes about 1 month to ship. The 65nm CPU have been ready for a year, so all that was needed was to reduce the GPU. Remember they only manufacture a few consoles at first! 



Indeed, they could be, however, there isn't any real photographic evidence to state otherwise is there?

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   09-26-2008, 1:32 PM
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Ugh. I hate this waiting. I want a Jasper-Elite, and I'm not settling for anything less. I had a pre-Falcon Elite last fall, whatever build that would've been. I got tired of the thing acting like a space heater and sold it since I needed cash for something. Now I'm ready for another one, and I'm not a patient person.

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   09-26-2008, 2:51 PM
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 Sythedragon1985 wrote:
 OutwarLackey123 wrote:
I'm assuming they call it Casper in the UK, and if not...They really need to swap the letter out.


They'd be in the US before here in the UK, and we'd call it the Jasper, or at least I do, but then again, I know stuff even the OP didn't, I just don't choose to involve my self in such speculation, it happens when it happens.


 Sythedragon1985 wrote:
 OutwarLackey123 wrote:
I wish someone could just give us an approximate manufacturing date for what would be possibly be Jaspers.


I'd expect them to be common early 09 in all honesty, I mean, I'll give you what happened to me.

January of 08 I bought a Falcon, Manufacture date somewhere in 07, late 07, it's a falcon, gave it to my brother after a while.

Bought my self an Elite 5 months down the line, same LOT, 2 days difference in manufacture, Falcon. Consoles obviously aren't getting moved so much.

The only difference is one had the BenQ, mine had the hitachiPOS.


It looks like you are including yourself in such speculation. You are also stating the safest bet. 09 is a good bet, but I am pretty sure we will see some jasper units in 08. Remember the faster MS switches over completely, the more money they save.

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   09-26-2008, 7:07 PM
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 Fusker wrote:

Remember the faster MS switches over completely, the more money they save.


You mean on repairs, right? Because they won't save anything on the miniaturization process.
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   09-26-2008, 7:13 PM
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 OutwarLackey123 wrote:
 Fusker wrote:

Remember the faster MS switches over completely, the more money they save.


You mean on repairs, right? Because they won't save anything on the miniaturization process.
No, reducing the size of the components saves a lot of money!
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   09-26-2008, 7:56 PM
Re: Betreff: Re: Jasper Sightings
 OutwarLackey123 wrote:
 Fusker wrote:

Remember the faster MS switches over completely, the more money they save.


You mean on repairs, right? Because they won't save anything on the miniaturization process.


Incorrect, to produce a 65nm chip is significantly cheaper than to produce a 90nm chip. A side effect is it gives off less heat. I am pretty sure MS cares more for the monetary effect of this change while we hope for more of a reliability increase from this change.

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   09-26-2008, 9:18 PM
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 Fusker wrote:
Incorrect, to produce a 65nm chip is significantly cheaper than to produce a 90nm chip. A side effect is it gives off less heat. I am pretty sure MS cares more for the monetary effect of this change while we hope for more of a reliability increase from this change.


It's not significantly cheaper to produce a 65nm chip. Smaller chip technology costs more, unless Microsoft has some secret special way of getting it cheaper. But it is cheaper because you can make more at once, but not significiantly, yet anyway. The monetary effect wouldn't be seen for a while. Which yeah, is why Microsoft would want to put em in. So they'll just be making Jasper GPUs and will start to save a significant amount.

(Had to get this explained to me to understand.)

EDIT: So basically...Small price decrease now. Large amount decrease later.
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   09-27-2008, 8:06 AM
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I do not believe that this guy has a Jasper. I would need photo evidence. Without it, any claim is a little pointless and not worth the time to type.

Roll on Jasper Elite because that is what I am waiting for. Currently playing on a borrowed Xbox. I even have LIVE for it (I hope there are no issues with me recovering my gamertag when I get my own box?).

My strongest bet for a Jasper would be any box that came pre-loaded with the new Xbox experience.

My big fear is that the Elites will be the last to show the change as that higher priced stock must move much slower than the Arcade. Does anywhere provide a breakdown for the various SKUs?


I bagged a Jasper MW2 250GB beast
thanks to all those that helped in the Jasper hunt
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   09-27-2008, 8:33 AM
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 peachy001 wrote:
I do not believe that this guy has a Jasper. I would need photo evidence. Without it, any


That's what I would say. Don't believe anything until ya see photographic proof.
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   09-27-2008, 7:45 PM
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IMHO if you want a 360 then buy one. MS is going to soft launch the Jasper so we won't know for sure when they are coming out. Buy a good store warranty or the one from MS and just enjoy gaming.
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   09-27-2008, 7:47 PM
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 JeffArono wrote:
IMHO if you want a 360 then buy one. MS is going to soft launch the Jasper so we won't know for sure when they are coming out. Buy a good store warranty or the one from MS and just enjoy gaming.


Well, it's possible there might be a few Jaspers out there. Who knows...Wouldn't be hard to just call Gamestops around the area and ask what the highest lot numbered 360 is that they have. Maybe Fusker would know if there are any out there...

I really want to report the entries on 360drives.com as inaccurate if they're not Jaspers.
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   10-03-2008, 5:29 AM
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No good news yet...anybody ???

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   10-03-2008, 7:44 AM
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 PARALYZED CELLS wrote:
No good news yet...anybody ???


http://forums.xbox.com/23003524/ShowPost.aspx#23009591

 Fusker wrote:
I know for a fact not one of those consoles is a jasper. The first jasper console should be arriving with a very late sept manufacture date.
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   10-05-2008, 5:22 PM
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Jasper Date 9-3-08 Team  CSON   Lot # 0835
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   10-05-2008, 8:38 PM
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You sure about the MFG date? Fusker was saying to look for a late september MFG date. I checked at walmart yesterday and their inventory still goes back to may. So Bump for this post. anyone see anything yet? Maybe some of our respected community advisors could drop us a hint of what they might be hearing? FUSKER? MRCUR?
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   10-05-2008, 9:42 PM
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I'm interested in a Jasper, maybe we'll be able to tell by the watts on the power brick like the Falcon.
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   10-05-2008, 10:07 PM
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 Batterd Monkey wrote:
Jasper Date 9-3-08 Team  CSON   Lot # 0835


is this an xbox you got or are you quoting a date that is suppose to be the release manf date of jasper 360's?

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   10-05-2008, 10:20 PM
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 Eagl97 wrote:
I'm interested in a Jasper, maybe we'll be able to tell by the watts on the power brick like the Falcon.


You should be able to tell by the amperage on the back of the console supposedly. Xenon/Zephyr are 16.5A and Falcons are 14.2A.
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   10-06-2008, 7:53 AM
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 JeffArono wrote:
IMHO if you want a 360 then buy one. ... just enjoy gaming.

It's easy to say. I'm trying, but I'm looking at getting my third 360 console. This simply isn't fair. I'm holding out for a Jasper. I want to take as little chance as possible.

The fact that people are starting to accept this as part of owning a 360 (or should I say buying several 360's) is completely terrible.

Microsoft replaced my original launch console with a refurbished one. It still runs hot and the drive gets really loud, and now, it has started freezing occasionally, and I don't think it's the games that are causing it. I have a feeling this problem will get worse (it's the way my first console started to go), and because it's not a Red Ring problem Microsoft won't replace it. Though they did replace my first console, because it wasn't Red Ring, I had to argue with customer service to make it happen. I had to argue about the fact that yes, my console booted fine without a RRoD, but it was still unusable because it would consistently freeze within an hour of playing.

I'm waiting to buy a Jasper because I don't feel like arguing with Xbox Customer Service just so they can replace my console with the same old hardware (if they even agree to do it) so that I can have another console that will start to crap out a year later.

So Jeff, if you say that I'm just being bitter, you're right. I've been soured by the experience. I love 360 games and Live. Microsoft has been a great innovator, but these hardware issues are terribley unfair, and yes it's common. Every 360 gamer I know knows multiple people who have had multiple 360 consoles. Either the problems are extremely common, or I'm an incredible statistical anomaly in that I'm connected to several people who have had at least one replacement console and who themselves know other people who have had 360's die on them. In fact, my workplace is on its second 360 for our break room.

And remember, not everyone gets a replacement console from Microsoft, either because MS says it won't cover the problem, or because the customer simply buys another console on their own. I bet the statistics MS has quoted in interviews doesn't count a signficant amount of consoles people have had to replace.

I wish I could just enjoy gaming on my 360. What's on the inside of the plastic casing should not be my concern, but MS has not held up their end of the deal (providing a product of reasonable quality) and has thus made it every consumer's concern.

I'd like to, but I can't just "buy one" and "...enjoy gaming." It's not that simple.

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   10-06-2008, 8:54 AM
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 olanmills wrote:

 JeffArono wrote:
IMHO if you want a 360 then buy one. ... just enjoy gaming.

It's easy to say. I'm trying, but I'm looking at getting my third 360 console. This simply isn't fair. I'm holding out for a Jasper. I want to take as little chance as possible.

The fact that people are starting to accept this as part of owning a 360 (or should I say buying several 360's) is completely terrible.

Microsoft replaced my original launch console with a refurbished one. It still runs hot and the drive gets really loud, and now, it has started freezing occasionally, and I don't think it's the games that are causing it. I have a feeling this problem will get worse (it's the way my first console started to go), and because it's not a Red Ring problem Microsoft won't replace it. Though they did replace my first console, because it wasn't Red Ring, I had to argue with customer service to make it happen. I had to argue about the fact that yes, my console booted fine without a RRoD, but it was still unusable because it would consistently freeze within an hour of playing.

I'm waiting to buy a Jasper because I don't feel like arguing with Xbox Customer Service just so they can replace my console with the same old hardware (if they even agree to do it) so that I can have another console that will start to crap out a year later.

So Jeff, if you say that I'm just being bitter, you're right. I've been soured by the experience. I love 360 games and Live. Microsoft has been a great innovator, but these hardware issues are terribley unfair, and yes it's common. Every 360 gamer I know knows multiple people who have had multiple 360 consoles. Either the problems are extremely common, or I'm an incredible statistical anomaly in that I'm connected to several people who have had at least one replacement console and who themselves know other people who have had 360's die on them. In fact, my workplace is on its second 360 for our break room.

And remember, not everyone gets a replacement console from Microsoft, either because MS says it won't cover the problem, or because the customer simply buys another console on their own. I bet the statistics MS has quoted in interviews doesn't count a signficant amount of consoles people have had to replace.

I wish I could just enjoy gaming on my 360. What's on the inside of the plastic casing should not be my concern, but MS has not held up their end of the deal (providing a product of reasonable quality) and has thus made it every consumer's concern.

I'd like to, but I can't just "buy one" and "...enjoy gaming." It's not that simple.

Imagine how many 360's MS could have sold if they fixed the RRoD issue. It is shameful that they have not. I have the 3 year extended warranty from MS, no matter how many times my console fails in 4 years, it's their problem.
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   10-06-2008, 11:11 AM
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 olanmills wrote:

 JeffArono wrote:
IMHO if you want a 360 then buy one. ... just enjoy gaming.

It's easy to say. I'm trying, but I'm looking at getting my third 360 console. This simply isn't fair. I'm holding out for a Jasper. I want to take as little chance as possible.

The fact that people are starting to accept this as part of owning a 360 (or should I say buying several 360's) is completely terrible.

Microsoft replaced my original launch console with a refurbished one. It still runs hot and the drive gets really loud, and now, it has started freezing occasionally, and I don't think it's the games that are causing it. I have a feeling this problem will get worse (it's the way my first console started to go), and because it's not a Red Ring problem Microsoft won't replace it. Though they did replace my first console, because it wasn't Red Ring, I had to argue with customer service to make it happen. I had to argue about the fact that yes, my console booted fine without a RRoD, but it was still unusable because it would consistently freeze within an hour of playing.

I'm waiting to buy a Jasper because I don't feel like arguing with Xbox Customer Service just so they can replace my console with the same old hardware (if they even agree to do it) so that I can have another console that will start to crap out a year later.

So Jeff, if you say that I'm just being bitter, you're right. I've been soured by the experience. I love 360 games and Live. Microsoft has been a great innovator, but these hardware issues are terribley unfair, and yes it's common. Every 360 gamer I know knows multiple people who have had multiple 360 consoles. Either the problems are extremely common, or I'm an incredible statistical anomaly in that I'm connected to several people who have had at least one replacement console and who themselves know other people who have had 360's die on them. In fact, my workplace is on its second 360 for our break room.

And remember, not everyone gets a replacement console from Microsoft, either because MS says it won't cover the problem, or because the customer simply buys another console on their own. I bet the statistics MS has quoted in interviews doesn't count a signficant amount of consoles people have had to replace.

I wish I could just enjoy gaming on my 360. What's on the inside of the plastic casing should not be my concern, but MS has not held up their end of the deal (providing a product of reasonable quality) and has thus made it every consumer's concern.

I'd like to, but I can't just "buy one" and "...enjoy gaming." It's not that simple.

Out of everyone I know family & friends, only one person has had to replace there almost 3 year old console, it took less than 2 weeks and the repaired console looks new!

 If I was upset at every product that IMO broke early I would have been dead by now. In my 58 years of life I have had tons of *** go bad. A least MS has a free extended warranty, all the others don't.

Get over it, MS decided to go this route, either live with it or don't!

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   10-07-2008, 1:52 PM
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I've read a post stating that the Jasper amperage on the box will be 12.1A and this maybe the easiest way to tell if you have a Jasper. The Falcon rating is 14.2A and the Xenon/Zephyr is 16.5A.
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   10-07-2008, 3:28 PM
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I wonder how long it'll be before we see the first " Issues with your Jasper console" thread. Same thing that happened with the Falcon, everybody was all excited and all. Only for to be crap like the original. Mine rrod on me, Elite with the Falcon...8 months old.
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   10-07-2008, 3:36 PM
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 FREAKonFORfatty wrote:
I wonder how long it'll be before we see the first " Issues with your Jasper console" thread. Same thing that happened with the Falcon, everybody was all excited and all. Only for to be crap like the original. Mine rrod on me, Elite with the Falcon...8 months old.


I really hope this time Microsoft gets it right.....

I'm one of those people anxious to get a hold of a Jasper Console. Especially because I'll be getting rid of my 360 in order to get a jasper when they are commonly seen at the stores. Although I will be Game Free for about 2 months. I'm quiet sure we'll be seeing them round November or December.


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