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   02-27-2009, 10:15 PM
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Hey guys...my rig just started doing this last night. Got an update with COD: WaW and then 30 minutes later...video was gone. Hooked it up a PC monitor and that worked for 5 minutes and then gone completely. So I shut it off and tried this morning...no luck. I've been searching all day for a solution, I might have to call M$ and say it has the 3 RROD so I can game.....man this sucks.

Sometimes I wonder "Why is that Frisbee getting bigger?"
...and then it hits me.
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   02-28-2009, 9:38 AM
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I was Playing Dead Rising, Doing the Usual Thing, When the Colour had a Hint of Purple on it...

I had, had no Problems Like This Before, but Because the Game was Pre-Owned, i Thought it may Have Been That. i Returned to the Dashboard to see if it was the Same. Which it was. 

So i Turn off the Console. Reboot, but This Time the Start up has Changed. I have Audio Coming out Fine, but no Video is Appearing.

I try Many Different Ways to see What the problem is;

The Xbox Cable... X... i Used my Friends Cable, and it Still Didnt Work.
The Tv................. X... I Tryed to Start it up on 3 Different TV Systems, and the Problem Remained.
The Xbox............ Tick...

So i Ring Xbox Customer Support, and They Basically Tell me That my Warrenty has Gone. I Check how Much it will Cost to Find That it Will be £75.. I Also Need a new Hardrive so Thats £85... £160...

I Could buy a new Elite for That Price. Which is What i Have Decided to do. Now i Have to Decide on What to do With my Broken Xbox, I Could Sell it as it is, or try the Towel Trick. But i Have Heard That, That is Only for the RROD.

Any Ideas?

Thanks cartoonfreeke

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   03-02-2009, 2:51 PM
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This problem has now happened to me as well. I have never even heard of this till now crazy it's such a common problem even with the newer systems.
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   03-02-2009, 8:18 PM
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 aenimiac wrote:

Ok, this might get complicated, but bear with me!

 

I got Assassins Creed today so I was playing that when all of a sudden the graphics went all funny coloured, and then went completely, my TV said there was no input.  I still had audio, just no video.

 

Luckily I live with my brother and he has a 360, so I put my console on his TV and got the same thing.  I tried it without a hard disk in and still no video output on either TV.  But here's where it gets really complicated...

 

I put his console on my TV and it worked fine.  Then I put my hard disk on his console, put it on my TV and there was no video output.  But I've also put my hard disk into his console but on his TV, and it worked fine.

 

So to sum up..

 

My console + my HDD + my TV = no video.

My console + my HDD + brother's TV = no video.

Brother's console + my HDD + brother's TV = fine 

brother's console + my HDD + my TV = no video

Brother's console + brother's HDD + my TV = fine

 

I'm completely baffled.  I've phoned Microsoft and they're getting me a replacement for free (luckily I'm about 1 week inside my warranty) but what I don't want is for the replacement to come and have the same problems when it's hooked up to my HDD.

 

Anyone have any thoughts/ideas?



I am going to take a shot in the dark and say that your brother uses either 1080p video on his TV, or sets his display to Extended.  I would also take a shot in the dark and say that you do not.  Therefore, connecting his console to your TV would result in no signal due to the fact that your TV cannot display the resolution that his can.  It could be that you are mixing more than one issue.

That said, the video problem you have described is a running problem that has affected many of us, me included.  Mine went out exactly the same way yours did right before my warranty expired.  Which is why, when I received my repaired console, I called and bought the 2 year warranty extension.  Covering my console until 2011.
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   03-13-2009, 10:21 AM
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If anyone is having the problem and want to be heard and are currently living in Australia please lodge a complaint with the office of fair trading or anything similar if you live overseas! WE WANT THIS TO BE HEARD! AS WITH THE RED RINGS!
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   03-19-2009, 2:40 AM
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Add to list . 1 Dead Xbox. Have audio but no video. Playing Cod WAW video all of the sudden turned a shade of red. I could still see object but they were all red. I tried to reboot and video has been gone ever since. Tried different monitors and cables. 5 Months out of warranty. They tell me for $125 I can "extend my warranty" then i can get it repaired "for free" . What a joke!

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   03-19-2009, 5:26 AM
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I am assuming you have a formatting problem. This is something you should take up with support.


Or your.
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   03-19-2009, 4:54 PM
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 cartoonfreeke wrote:
I Could buy a new Elite for That Price. Which is What i Have Decided to do. Now i Have to Decide on What to do With my Broken Xbox, I Could Sell it as it is, or try the Towel Trick. But i Have Heard That, That is Only for the RROD.


The towel trick works for this problem as well. The problem is that it's usually not for long or with mixed results.

My launch 360 just did this to me in December and I replaced it with an Arcade. I Googled a bit and found some info that the same problem that causes the RROD causes this; the GPU heats and expands to the point it's no longer connecting to the motherboard and your video goes away. I tried the towel trick with mine and the video did come back, but within 30 seconds or so the screen went purple. I rebooted and the video went away again.
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   03-20-2009, 4:25 AM
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When we recently posted about the Xbox 360's E74 error and asked for your input, we weren't prepared for the staggering response we'd receive. Within a few hours, we had dozens of emails from readers like you who had experienced this particular hardware failure (typically caused, according to unofficial web reports, by a loose scaling chip). It was surprising to touch such a nerve, but what really knocked us for a loop was what we found when we started compiling the data sent to us.
We asked respondents for three bits of information: when they bought their systems, what models the systems are, and when the E74 error occurred. Before we drop the data on you, we should say up front that we're not statisticians. Our little study isn't perfect -- it wasn't controlled using scientific procedures. But in the absence of data from Microsoft (more on that in a bit), it's the basis for what we hope to be an important first report:

As we interpret the data, there's been a sharp increase in the E74 error since the New Xbox Experience was released in November of last year. The obvious conclusion is that the system is being taxed by NXE in such a way that it's more prone to E74. Alternately, a more sinister theory is making the rounds on forums that Microsoft has changed the diagnostics of the system to report the Red Ring of Death error as E74. This, however, seems unlikely as many in our poll are still reporting RROD failures post-NXE.

One oddity is that there is no correlation between the dates on which the systems in question were purchased and when they went belly up. The error usually occurred after anywhere from 12 to 36 months of use, with many of you claiming that trouble arose on consoles that have already been repaired for Red Ring of Death. Whatever modifications Microsoft has made to the console to improve its reliability in the past years seems to have no bearing on the likelihood of E74.

Further evidence for a recent E74 increase comes from our (again, unscientific) poll. Of those claiming to be have gotten the error, only 42 percent said that they had received it before the NXE update. To put that another way, 58 percent of the reported E74s have come in the last 12 percent of the console's life. Again, not scientific, but do a Twitter search for "E74" and you'll find five new reports of the error since yesterday.

So, why isolate the E74 error? While Red Ring of Death is covered under an extended three-year warranty, those who get the E74 later than 12 months and one day after their purchase are forced to pay more than $100 for a repair.

We reached out to Microsoft, asking what causes the E74 error, if it's been on an uptick, and why it's not covered when RROD is. Here's the official statement:

"E74 is a general hardware error on Xbox 360 indicated by a single red flashing light in the Xbox Ring of Light and an error message visible on the television. This error is unrelated to the three flashing red lights error and there is not a single root cause. We encourage anyone who receives this error to contact Xbox Customer support through www.xbox.com/support or 1-800-4-MY-XBOX. The majority of customers who own Xbox 360 consoles continue to have a terrific experience from their first day, and continue to, day in and day out."

Right, so, Microsoft is not really answering anything. We aren't asking unfair questions here, we're asking the things that those who own Xbox 360s (and those who might consider buying them or even Microsoft's next console) would want to know. The company seems to want to rebuild a relationship with hardware consumers after losing the trust of many with the RROD debacle, but not talking about something that's clearly a widespread problem seems like a terrible way to start. (Maybe Microsoft thinks that if RROD didn't hurt brand preference, neither will E74.)

Sorry, but Microsoft's current stance on E74 isn't good enough for us. We're not going to let this go until we find out why Microsoft lends a hand to some of those inconvenienced by an admittedly shoddy piece of technology, while others have to take a hit in their pocket books. You keep sending us your stories, and we'll keep pursuing the answers.


First 360 repair request: 7/7/08
Replacement #1 received: 7/23/08
Second 360 repair: 8/5/08
Third 360 repair: 8/10/08
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   03-22-2009, 11:37 PM
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I also am having this problem with my xbox and am very, very upset that Microsoft won't fix this under the RRoD warranty since they seem to share many of the same symptoms.

This appears to be a problem that is for the most part unavoidable. Microsoft made many faulty systems and they aren't taking the responsibility to fix them besides the RRoD ones.

I think this is a load of BS and if I don't get a free repair, I won't buy another Microsoft product ever again.
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   03-23-2009, 2:46 AM
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Is "E74" the Xbox 360's new Red Ring of Death?

Featured story on YAHOO news!

http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/is-quot-e74-quot-the-xbox-360-s-new-red-ring-of-death-/1299076
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   03-23-2009, 4:34 AM
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Not sure if this is a video output problem exactly. But it seems to fit here and maybe I'll get a suggestion on what I should do next.

Here it goes. I got a refurbished console from MS in early Feb. as a replacement after sending mine in for a RROD repair back in January. This refurbished console won't display any video in color. Nothing, not games, not dvds, not menus. And the thing is, I tried 3 different a/v cables and did so on 3 different tv sets and still nothing. I tried the same cables on the same tvs with a friend's 360 and everything worked fine/displayed in color as it should. To sum it up - everything displays in color on my 3 tvs as it should, except for that refurb they sent.

Since it's under warranty, I sent my refurb in for a repair to fix the above issue. They shipped it back the day after I got an e-mail that said it arrived. It ended up not actually being repaired. I sent it in again, and they sent it back and did no repairs to it yet again. Now the same thing happend for a third time. On the last attempt I even typed out and included a brief summary of the problem. Not sure if they read it or even cared. But what did I have to loose?

It's like they aren't even trying to repair it. And customer service is trying to claim its just faulty cables or tv sets. But how can it be when the same darned cables work fine with a friend's console and the tvs display stuff from his just fine and everything else I have fine except for the refurb. They obviously sent a damaged refurb to me and it seems now don't want to be bothered with repairing or replacing it.

Any suggestions?
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   03-23-2009, 6:43 AM
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Not sure if this is a video output problem exactly. But it seems to fit here and maybe I'll get a suggestion on what I should do next.

Here it goes. I got a refurbished console from MS in early Feb. as a replacement after sending mine in for a RROD repair back in January. This refurbished console won't display any video in color. Nothing, not games, not dvds, not menus. And the thing is, I tried 3 different a/v cables and did so on 3 different tv sets and still nothing. I tried the same cables on the same tvs with a friend's 360 and everything worked fine/displayed in color as it should. To sum it up - everything displays in color on my 3 tvs as it should, except for that refurb they sent.

Since it's under warranty, I sent my refurb in for a repair to fix the above issue. They shipped it back the day after I got an e-mail that said it arrived. It ended up not actually being repaired. I sent it in again, and they sent it back and did no repairs to it yet again. Now the same thing happend for a third time. On the last attempt I even typed out and included a brief summary of the problem. Not sure if they read it or even cared. But what did I have to loose?

It's like they aren't even trying to repair it. And customer service is trying to claim its just faulty cables or tv sets. But how can it be when the same darned cables work fine with a friend's console and the tvs display stuff from his just fine and everything else I have fine except for the refurb. They obviously sent a damaged refurb to me and it seems now don't want to be bothered with repairing or replacing it.

Any suggestions?

Have you taken it to a pc tech? If so, you could get a letter validating the claim on the system being faulty. (They see it being third-party, in truth you can use a PC Tech who happens to be a gamer to validate the claim in person.) You can also file a complaint with the Better Business Burea over the issue. Did you keep a copy of the summary you sent in along with the date?

First 360 repair request: 7/7/08
Replacement #1 received: 7/23/08
Second 360 repair: 8/5/08
Third 360 repair: 8/10/08
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   03-24-2009, 12:59 AM
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mines just went out was curious to see if anyone up here has had the same problem and what do u kno its been goin on for 2 years now...lmao

i was playin online 2k9 after at a different house on regular cables and the box resets and the pictures goes out...and its no solution

i tired the rt trigga and y button thing and still nothing
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   03-25-2009, 1:27 AM
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Have you taken it to a pc tech? If so, you could get a letter validating the claim on the system being faulty. (They see it being third-party, in truth you can use a PC Tech who happens to be a gamer to validate the claim in person.) You can also file a complaint with the Better Business Burea over the issue. Did you keep a copy of the summary you sent in along with the date?


Never taken it to a pc tech. But I have thought of filing a complaint with the BBB. I think I will. Regarding the summary, yes I kept a copy of that.
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   03-25-2009, 1:42 AM
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This sounds exactly what I experienced a few months ago in February. Like down to the last detail, haha. Did you ever find a solution for this? Did anyone?! I mean, I don't have a warranty on the thing anymore... I don't know what to do.

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   03-25-2009, 7:25 AM
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 FFR Master wrote:

This sounds exactly what I experienced a few months ago in February. Like down to the last detail, haha. Did you ever find a solution for this? Did anyone?! I mean, I don't have a warranty on the thing anymore... I don't know what to do.


There is no known solution except to send it into M$. Although one person suggested a method of resetting the video; then they experienced RRoD. I think the best way to get this fixed faster is... get a group together come up with solutions that doesn't involve M$ and provided a bunch of 360s.

First 360 repair request: 7/7/08
Replacement #1 received: 7/23/08
Second 360 repair: 8/5/08
Third 360 repair: 8/10/08
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   03-27-2009, 1:54 PM
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"E74 is a general hardware error on Xbox 360 indicated by a single red flashing light in the Xbox Ring of Light and an error message visible on the television. This error is unrelated to the three flashing red lights error and there is not a single root cause. We encourage anyone who receives this error to contact Xbox Customer support through www.xbox.com/support or 1-800-4-MY-XBOX. The majority of customers who own Xbox 360 consoles continue to have a terrific experience from their first day, and continue to, day in and day out."

the biggest line of BS that i have read so far!! i don't know anyone who has had a 360 that hasn't sent it in for repairs at least once. most people i know have sent them back multiple times but now it looks like microsoft wants $100 to repair them. they must have burnt through their billion dollar repair fund already on these POS systems.
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   03-27-2009, 3:31 PM
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My Elite started acting up yesterday. A minute or so after starting my xbox, the video goes all strange/staticy and freezes. The audio freezes as well. It's as if the machine just freezes, if the controller was rumbling it will continue to rumble without stopping. I have to physically push the power button on my xbox to turn it off. The strangest thing is that no error messages appear and no red lights on the console. If you looked at the machine it would look completely normal. I've tried different connections (HDMI, composite, philips) and all the different resolution and the freezing keeps happening. I don't even play much anymore maybe 5-6 hours a week. The machine is over a year old and had no problems until now. The worst part is that my original XBOX had the red ring, I got my money back from the store I bought it from and bought the Elite a couple of months later hoping to have side stepped any build quality issues that Microsoft keeps having. Why is it that we keep getting screwed my Microsoft???
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   03-29-2009, 8:13 PM
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It's no surprise there is hundreds of people talking about this problem. Microsoft really need to sort this out, they made the damn console, we buy it...so surely they should pay for the problems they caused whilst making this console.

I was playing Luxor last night, and on a few occasions I got a few black swiggly lines, they were small and it only happened twice whilst I was playing it for an hour or so.

Anyways I didn't think much of it at the time. So once I finished I turned off the console and went to bed.
And then this morning I went to turn it on and got the RROD, I turned it off and then on again and it went back to green, I had perfect sound but no picture whatsoever. I kept turning it off and on and I kept getting different colours, sometimes 3 quadrants went red, then a full ring, and then it went back to green. So I googled it, went on youtube to get an answer and did some of the tutorials etc...but still no luck. I havent bought a new HD cable because to me my HD cable looks fine. I do it through component, and I have changed it to AV3 mode but still no freaking picture...I have had my console for 2 years and had the RROD over 20 times but managed to survive it, but now Im guessing my Xbox is dead for good.

Microsoft please can you sort this issue out and stop charging us for problems you made. It's getting so annoying now I feel like not owning an Xbox 360, which is weird because I love Microsoft and the Xbox's they have made. But this is getting out of hand now, it's about time they took our problems more seriously...
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   03-30-2009, 5:45 PM
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I don't think they can fix this problem until they integrate the CPU/GPU onto a single package in the Valhalla.

Even as a layman I realize that they really need to get the GPU away from underneath the DVD drive and radically change the way air flows around it. Given the shape of the fan duct, I suspect that the fans draw far more air through the CPU heatsink than the GPU, which would also explain the odd placement of the GPU's daughter heatsink.

Had it not been for them using those clumsy standard form factor DVD drives, we may not have seen this problem. Since those drives are bespoke anyway because of the proprietary power connector, I think they could as well see to reshape the drives to make just a little bit of room for tapering the air duct and forcing more air to go past the GPU heatsink. Would they? Probably not.

I'm on my fourth Xbox 360. One E74, one RRoD and broken DVD drive (same machine, sent in twice). I bought three of those myself brand new. The most recent one is still working. For now.
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   04-01-2009, 8:46 PM
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well, my xbox finally went out, it's been 4 long years of good gaming. i didn't purchase this console from the store though so i never got a warranty, i purchased a tester box from a msft employee, so there was no void if removed sticker on it. I was playing halo 3 and all the sudden the screen goes yellow i keep playing for a little while and it doesn't go away, so when i get done playing with my friends i go to the dashboard and see if it was just halo. it wasn't, so i rebooted my console and no video but there was audio. but since it never had a void if removed sticker i'm kinda sol on sending it in for repairs.
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   04-04-2009, 4:49 PM
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I was also palying Rockband 2 when my screen went red the green, I turned it off waited awhile and turned it back on. All I got was sound no picture. I tried new cables, tried 3 different T.V's one was HDTV no pic just sound and the T.V screen is black wih white dotes. I called Xbox Support and the lady asked me if it had any Red lights on when a turned on and I said No they she says the only thing we can do is have you sendit in for repairs along with $190.00 to have repaired because my warrenty was done July 20,2008. I think that MS should repair anyones console that is doing this same thing it sounds like a manufactures defect if you ask me. I think its not fair that we all have the SAME thing wrong and are being told it isn't covered because we have NO RROD showing that's really annoying to me. Anyone want to fix mine free. I'm a single mom with 4 kids who are really wanted it fix anyone feeling nice email me at lascottage@yahoo.com
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   04-04-2009, 8:47 PM
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I was playing the Halo Wars Demo when my picture became green and spotty. I turned it off & when I turned it back on there was audio but no picture. I normally use my 360 on an analog TV but I hooked  it up to one of the HD TVs we have in our house  & a different analog TV we have and it still didnt work. I borrowed my friend's AV cable and tried it but it didnt work. I have also used his 360 on the same TVs & it worked fine with my games and hardrive. Does anyone have a solution to this problem?
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   04-04-2009, 11:49 PM
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Same thing, except with RE5....

Basically done with the 360 now, since I'm not about to buy a new one.
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   04-05-2009, 8:34 PM
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What horse ****, this just happened to me too. They should give a *** full refund for it and not pay for a new one. *** man I rather just buy a *** PS3, *** is getting annoying... first with the RROD and now this No Input horse ****.
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   04-05-2009, 11:58 PM
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1600 replies and 79000 views in this post alone!!

That pretty much says it all!  I am now one of the unlucky people as well and I haven't even played my 360 in over 6 months.  I went to turn it on today and there is no video at all on composite or component cables.  *** this XBox crap!!

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CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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   04-06-2009, 5:37 PM
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Well, I guess I should throw my bowler hat in to the ring and get my name added to the ever growing list of those with “Video Mode Not Supported” afflicted 360 base units. Alas, my poor 360 that has given me so much happy frag time in the past year is but a mere 5 days out of warranty when it all goes horribly wrong with no sign of the RRoD leaving one without a proverbial pot to urinate in.

Like the thousands of you before (and no doubt after) me I've tried all combinations to rule out a TV or even cable fault (I think they call this stage "Denial") but now I’ve come to except the inevitable (Knowing it's actually "***") I will attempt to call Microsoft’s Customer "Support" number to see how much it's going to cost me to get this hardware failure fixed. In all honesty I'm seriously considering just moving to a different platform as I've been toying with buying a BluRay setup for some time now but I've always enjoyed, no “preferred” the Xbox Live! (TM) experience so never saw the need and have stuck with it since the original console but I fear that I’ve now past the point of no return and am going to become one of Sony PS3’s ever growing minions (sorry, Sony customer base). I'm not saying this in the vain hope that acting like a petulant child will make Microsoft turn around and give me a free repair, replacement unit, or smoking BJ - No, I expect they will want to bend me over and *** me for £60-100 to take 3-4 weeks to send me a second hand unit that I could’ve purchased from a local store faster for less hassle and slightly more cash.

In truth I don’t even like the Sony’s shiny black case or the horrible blue LED’s that bath your normally dark gaming room in a soft blue mood light as it doesn’t match anything in my house except the alarm clock but after reading the first twenty something pages and seeing no reply by a Microsoft company official on this matter (Which is also I believe "There" ((MS that is)) official Xbox 360 site) I’m slinging my hook and plan to use my 360 to warm my bedroom on those cold winter days we get in England (I might even fill it with petrol and apply a match to it thus sending the old girl off with a proper bang “screaming FRAG OUT”. I’ll post a YouTube video link if I do).

I'm sure I’ll be long gone before salvation arrives but hopefully; and if you’re still reading this the sacrifice and the suffering by myself and those before me will eventually one day see Microsoft do the right thing for once to their customer base and without seeing three red quadrants: By this I mean simply and efficiently fix the problem for us without hiding behind a load of rubbish about it not beings true hardware "Failure".

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   04-06-2009, 10:09 PM
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No video for me too. Has anybody had this problem with a Falcon unit? What about a Jasper unit? Mine was a launch unit. I'd like to launch it through M$ front door.
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   04-07-2009, 9:45 AM
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STOP THE PRESS - I think I've found a fix people.

After speaking to Microsoft last night and pleading my case with the Customer Support/Tech Support Adviser only to be then told "5 days out of warranty is still out of warranty sir" and because the hardware failure hadn’t caused the RRoD to appear was going to cost me £88 including vat to get fixed (please bare in mind that in the UK £99 buys you a 2nd hand unit with 12 months warranty from the chain Gamestation) that I decided to take matters in to my own hands.

I asked the Customer Support Agent to hold whilst I tried something "Radical". So with the agent on the line still I proceeded to unplug my console to perform another hardware reset… In the back yard! He was slightly confused so I said to him “can you hear this” and then dropped my console on the concrete from a height of about 2 meters. I admit, I was impressed by Microsoft’s build quality as the fall and shock (Surprisingly) didn't break the casing. “Sir, what have you done” was the reply from the agent with my childish giggles in the background but you all know what’s coming – Yup, I went back inside and re-connected it and as sure as red it red the bloody GPU works again.

I played COD4 and HAWX last night for over 2 hours without any further issues. I am also saving up to replace my console shortly as I’m sure this is nothing more than a temporary fix (and I don’t encourage you to do the same) but I wonder if MS will incorporate this option in to the “Black Screening” automated support?

 

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