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Started by NerveBag at 11-29-2006 3:13 AM. Topic has 19 replies.
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   11-29-2006, 3:13 AM
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That boiling thing actually WORKS!
I'll admit I was skeptical... very skeptical. I got my holiday edition of the demo disk in the magazine. It didn't work no matter what I tried. Someone on the forum said to boil it for 10 seconds. I figured they were trying to get me to do something stupid and melt a disk on my stove. IT ACTUALLY WORKED! Everything was great after I boiled the disk for about 10 seconds. Belive it or not, it really worked for me. Try it before you ask for a new disk.
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   11-30-2006, 2:05 AM
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HOLD ON HOLD ON!!!
 
your telling me. Boil water.. dip the disk in for 10 secounds? gotta be the crazyest thing ive even done.. lol i think i might try it!! lol


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   12-01-2006, 11:53 PM
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Yep it does !  I wanted to play some demo, Tomb Raider I thinka nd of course my disc came bad.  So I read about the boiling thing and it actually worked.

Not sure if it still works or not now that it's long since returned to room temp but it worked for the hour or so i played the demo.

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   12-03-2006, 6:33 PM
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well i did it and it works. 2 days later.. it still works :) yay thanks alot


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   12-06-2006, 12:04 AM
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only a ideot whould try that

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   12-06-2006, 3:15 AM
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 xI Optimous Ix wrote:
only a ideot whould try that

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Oh the irony....


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   12-07-2006, 4:51 PM
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 The Dagda Mor wrote:

 xI Optimous Ix wrote:
only a ideot whould try that

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Oh the irony....

 

LOL... ^

 

I think I gave him that advice. Hey if it works it works. Dont bash stuff if you have no idea of what you are talking about.

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   12-09-2006, 4:14 AM
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Hey.. you dont have to do it.. lol but it actaully did work.. i didnt boil mine.. just ran under hot water for a few secounds... dried it off with a paper towel.. let sit for a few minuites then tryed..


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   12-10-2006, 2:51 AM
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i had to do it once, but i had sucess also. One thing to remember, don't be lazy and not use a string to dip it in and out quickly. i used a long rubberband and it melted to the disk.

who found this out, Miguivver? and why does it work? it'll be on mythbusters eventually, you know.

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   12-10-2006, 3:20 AM
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Im gonna say that the people who make these DVD dont have a very good DVD washer The boiling removes grime that sometimes stays on there.. Thats why both hot water and boiling work sometimes some Discs are more dirsty than others.
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   12-10-2006, 3:23 AM
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 XTC ADDIK wrote:

i had to do it once, but i had sucess also. One thing to remember, don't be lazy and not use a string to dip it in and out quickly. i used a long rubberband and it melted to the disk.

who found this out, Miguivver? and why does it work? it'll be on mythbusters eventually, you know.

lol... a rubber band... oh man that has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard... well not really but still that's hillarious. 


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   12-10-2006, 5:39 AM
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 XTC ADDIK wrote:

i had to do it once, but i had sucess also. One thing to remember, don't be lazy and not use a string to dip it in and out quickly. i used a long rubberband and it melted to the disk.

who found this out, Miguivver? and why does it work? it'll be on mythbusters eventually, you know.

*Dropping Science*

 

I had posted this in the original OXM forums and had a long drawn out explaination on how and why this works. Here goes again...

 

• Why does the disc sometimes not work like it should:

What happens is not so much due to the manufacturing process, but due to the exposure of condensation within the plastic wrapped subscription (air temp change from sealed plastic bag) and handling during shipments. The optical formats (all discs) have a thin layer of plastic which expands and contracts with temperature. It is made this way to protect the readable surface,  and it allows for expansion in your hot dvd drives when spinning at faster RPMs. Because the disc is housed in a paper sleeve now, it actually is more protected than that of the cardboard sleeve as it does not slide out and does not let dust, debris, or microparticles to attach to the readable surface. Paper also shields any condensation from the bag wrap that is used to protect the magazine and disc during distribution. 

 

• Why it works:

Boiling works because it forces the small elastomeric film to expand and fix any minor warpage from shipping, and loosens the particles or debris from the surface in the hot water. It is just like washing sand off your hands under warm water. This is why a thumbprint (surfacants and oils that transfer from your hands) can cause more problems than minor surface scratches on the discs too. The lazer usually can read through a field of depth with scratches, but a smudge is more problematic because it disrupts the penetration of the plastic layer. This is why on all your electronic devices with disc drives tell you to never touch the lazer lens; because of the same reasoning.

 

The best method on handling the disc during boiling or running under hot water is to use a wooden handled spoon or serving utensil. Simply slide the disc center over the handle face up for better handling. Boil for 10 seconds or run under hot water for 20 seconds. Carefully take the disc back off the handle onto a lint free towel laying it face up. Gently pad dry the surface from the center outward to prevent scratching the surface. Let the disc set and cool so that the surface of the disc can contract before using. This method has worked since the optical format came out btw, so game discs aren't the only thing this works for (same applies for CD's and DVD's). MythBusters, riiiight. Lol.

 

MacGyver out.

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   12-10-2006, 6:49 PM
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wow. like how many of us OUTSIDE the industry of making disks would know that...but that helps in explaning it, thanks!
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   12-11-2006, 5:16 AM
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   12-12-2006, 11:28 PM
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i did that for one demo disc and it made it play perfect. before i did it i wiped the disc like a thousand times before i tried it but it was easy and worth it
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   12-21-2006, 2:00 AM
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 Player No 13 wrote:
 XTC ADDIK wrote:

i had to do it once, but i had sucess also. One thing to remember, don't be lazy and not use a string to dip it in and out quickly. i used a long rubberband and it melted to the disk.

who found this out, Miguivver? and why does it work? it'll be on mythbusters eventually, you know.

*Dropping Science*

 

I had posted this in the original OXM forums and had a long drawn out explaination on how and why this works. Here goes again...

 

• Why does the disc sometimes not work like it should:

What happens is not so much due to the manufacturing process, but due to the exposure of condensation within the plastic wrapped subscription (air temp change from sealed plastic bag) and handling during shipments. The optical formats (all discs) have a thin layer of plastic which expands and contracts with temperature. It is made this way to protect the readable surface,  and it allows for expansion in your hot dvd drives when spinning at faster RPMs. Because the disc is housed in a paper sleeve now, it actually is more protected than that of the cardboard sleeve as it does not slide out and does not let dust, debris, or microparticles to attach to the readable surface. Paper also shields any condensation from the bag wrap that is used to protect the magazine and disc during distribution. 

 

• Why it works:

Boiling works because it forces the small elastomeric film to expand and fix any minor warpage from shipping, and loosens the particles or debris from the surface in the hot water. It is just like washing sand off your hands under warm water. This is why a thumbprint (surfacants and oils that transfer from your hands) can cause more problems than minor surface scratches on the discs too. The lazer usually can read through a field of depth with scratches, but a smudge is more problematic because it disrupts the penetration of the plastic layer. This is why on all your electronic devices with disc drives tell you to never touch the lazer lens; because of the same reasoning.

 

The best method on handling the disc during boiling or running under hot water is to use a wooden handled spoon or serving utensil. Simply slide the disc center over the handle face up for better handling. Boil for 10 seconds or run under hot water for 20 seconds. Carefully take the disc back off the handle onto a lint free towel laying it face up. Gently pad dry the surface from the center outward to prevent scratching the surface. Let the disc set and cool so that the surface of the disc can contract before using. This method has worked since the optical format came out btw, so game discs aren't the only thing this works for (same applies for CD's and DVD's). MythBusters, riiiight. Lol.

 

MacGyver out.

Brilliant!!
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   12-21-2006, 6:32 AM
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Wow that's pretty cool, I'll have to remember this

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   12-30-2006, 3:41 PM
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wow.

oooh... i wonder what would happen to the disc if i froze it in the freezer and then dropped it into the boiling pot of water.


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   12-31-2006, 3:31 AM
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i wish i had known that before i requested the 3 replacement disks...that i never got....no matter, i cancelled my subcription anyways.
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   12-31-2006, 11:03 PM
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this should be stickied or something. tired of everyone who complains their disc doesnt work.
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