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   06-14-2009, 4:08 PM
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Re: RETURN, REPAIR, and SHIPPING DISCUSSION (Thread 2)
if i have ups pick mine up, and pay with CC online, does cardholder have to sign when they pick it up

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   06-15-2009, 12:16 AM
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i got the three red flashing lights second time after being repaired once already in two years. i thought it wouldn't happen again
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   06-15-2009, 5:11 AM
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 jzkbn wrote:
i got the three red flashing lights second time after being repaired once already in two years. i thought it wouldn't happen again

I'm in the same boat as you are.

Now I'm in limbo between deciding on buying an arcade console or paying for repairs.
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   06-15-2009, 10:33 AM
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Guys I am getting Jasper from ms repair center in Germany Party!!! [<:o)] I sent xeon xbox with RROD. Xbox that I am getting is manafactured on 2009 14week
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   06-15-2009, 9:04 PM
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 HPTHUG Z wrote:
 o LiViNGSToN o wrote:
 HPTHUG Z wrote:
So for anyone that has issues, speak with the higher-ups when calling MS.  But I agree, this new 3-month warranty thing is outrageous and criminal.      

And how exactly would one do that. I would love to complain to someone who can actually do something. The 90 day warranty for a refurbished console is quite possibly the biggest rip-off of all-time. Especially considering how many xbox's fail.
You need to call the main MS number in Washington State:  Direct dial: (425) 635-7180

When I saw that MS changed my serial number and was sending me a refurbished console, I called the main number and spoke with a higher-up, I think he his title was resolution manager or resolution rep.  I told him I DID NOT want a refurbished console but a new console and he said, "MS doesn't send out new consoles."

I spent nealy 30 minutes stating my case and he still would not give in to my request.  However, I did get better service from calling the main number, instead of the regular number, where you talk to a person who can not even speak English correctly (making it hard to understand what he or she is saying).  From now on, every should call the MAIN NUMBER and state their case.     


So did they get you a new box after you spoke with MS direct, or did they give you something in exchange for taking a refurbished box?
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   06-15-2009, 10:53 PM
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just wanted to update since I have not posted since page 5. I got my system back on the 27th of May. It is the same console I sent in, and is running much smoother/quieter. I have to say the turn around time was great and the system has had no problems. Hope things go as well for everyone else/
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   06-16-2009, 4:25 AM
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My release date console finally experienced the RRoD and I went through the repair process. Everything went smoothly and I had a new console sent back to me within 6 business days - I live in Canada and sent my console from western Canada to eastern Canada using the e-shipping option. The console I received back was not my original console, but the replacement appears to be in solid condition. Aside from the displeasure of having to send in my console in the first place, the process was efficient and quick.

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   06-17-2009, 4:18 PM
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Just to document the process this time, everything went alot faster which is definately a good thing. Sent my console in 1 week ago today and it has already begun its journey home. Not sure if I am getting the same console back or a refurb tho as the support website is down.
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   06-17-2009, 6:02 PM
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I have a repair order ready, got the email, but can't login into the LIVE system in order to get the shipping label. I tried asking for a FAX, but they said that wasn't possible on the phone. Their solution was to cancel the old order and then to snail mail a label. That would take 3-5 more business days. Is there any other way to get a label? Some LIVE services seem to still be offline, although my login does work, I still get an offline message for the repair service. Any thoughts? (sorry if this is isn't the perfect place to post this)

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   06-17-2009, 6:57 PM
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I had my second RROD last night in the middle of the downtime and am still waiting for the support page to come back online so I submit my service request. I'm trying to decide if I should bother with the repair service since my 3 year warrantee expired just a month ago, or just go buy an Arcade and slap my 120gb HD onto it. Does anyone know how much the RROD repair service is costing these days for out of warrantee 360's? I can't seem to find any info on that, and need to find out the repair cost so I can decide wether to just buy a new one or not.
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   06-17-2009, 7:28 PM
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If you do it online, I believe its $99.99, but if you call support it costs more, I guess for their time or something. Anyway, my advice to you in your particular situation, buy the arcade. While I have nothing to complain about the repair service, I'm currently waiting for mine to get back, in your case I would buy the arcade. I am thoroughly annoyed that i can't check the status of my repair though cause the support page is down. Just a heads up though, the page wasn't working before the downtime. I still got emails though, got one saying they recieved it, finished the repair and sent it back all within hours of each other.
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   06-18-2009, 2:34 AM
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It amazes me how Microsoft can just play with their customers (trying to keep it clean). Just received my third unit back from 'repair'. They returned my original unit. Sadly it was pretty dirty with sticker marks, etc. The kicker is that something is loose inside, shakes around. I tried plugging it in and noticed first that the startup screen wasn't crisp, and appeared to be standard definition. Immediately after that it showed a "error 78". The first rep stated I was going to speak with a tier 2 supervisor since it was a safety issue (something being loose inside). Sadly that was as far as I got, an hour going over how I would have to wait until Friday to receive a call back from the 'Hardware Specialist'.

Beautiful....guess I'll be back in the 'repair and return' churn.
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   06-18-2009, 3:04 AM
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anyone ask for a jasper while sending in for repair

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   06-18-2009, 6:06 AM
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I've asked about recieving a new chipset. I was told the policy is to repair it until it is beyond repair at which point you recieve another repaired refurb. Best bet is to sell the old one and buy a jasper unit.
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   06-18-2009, 9:43 PM
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man my 360 just got the E74 error man im pissed and this coustomer service thing is not working on the site
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   06-18-2009, 10:20 PM
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If you do it online, I believe its $99.99, but if you call support it costs more, I guess for their time or something. Anyway, my advice to you in your particular situation, buy the arcade. While I have nothing to complain about the repair service, I'm currently waiting for mine to get back, in your case I would buy the arcade. I am thoroughly annoyed that i can't check the status of my repair though cause the support page is down. Just a heads up though, the page wasn't working before the downtime. I still got emails though, got one saying they recieved it, finished the repair and sent it back all within hours of each other.


Yeah, I'll probably just do that, although with the announcement of the possible new hardware config coming out, I may just go ahead with the repair process again(this current RROD is on a now two year old refurb from when my launch 360 RROD'ed on me back in '07) and just try to wait it out and see what the final specs on the new revision are. Decisions, decisions...
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   06-19-2009, 2:29 AM
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 hmconde wrote:
 HPTHUG Z wrote:
 o LiViNGSToN o wrote:
 HPTHUG Z wrote:
So for anyone that has issues, speak with the higher-ups when calling MS.  But I agree, this new 3-month warranty thing is outrageous and criminal.      

And how exactly would one do that. I would love to complain to someone who can actually do something. The 90 day warranty for a refurbished console is quite possibly the biggest rip-off of all-time. Especially considering how many xbox's fail.
You need to call the main MS number in Washington State:  Direct dial: (425) 635-7180

When I saw that MS changed my serial number and was sending me a refurbished console, I called the main number and spoke with a higher-up, I think he his title was resolution manager or resolution rep.  I told him I DID NOT want a refurbished console but a new console and he said, "MS doesn't send out new consoles."

I spent nealy 30 minutes stating my case and he still would not give in to my request.  However, I did get better service from calling the main number, instead of the regular number, where you talk to a person who can not even speak English correctly (making it hard to understand what he or she is saying).  From now on, every should call the MAIN NUMBER and state their case.     


So did they get you a new box after you spoke with MS direct, or did they give you something in exchange for taking a refurbished box?
NOPE!  I didn't get anything new (or anything n exchaged); he wouldn't give in, and thus I was sent a refurbished console with nothing.  Maybe I should have asked for a game or a controller, but didn't think of it at the time.
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   06-19-2009, 8:13 PM
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Re: RETURN, REPAIR, and SHIPPING DISCUSSION (Thread 2): An Open Letter to Microsoft
reading the posts in this forum creates a feeling of profound discouragement. Although a couple of people report that their console repairs went smoothly, their posts are far-numbered by people who are currently replacing their 3rd, 4th or 5th console -- and getting quite a runaround from Customer Service in the process. It was my hope, in posting the "Open Letter to Microsoft" that appears below, that there would some sign in this forum that someone from the Company reads the posts... and possibly even intervenes in situations where additional help or information is clearly needed. But I have not found a single instance, so far, where that appears to be the case... I have also not been able to find any email or regular postal address for a Customer Service officer in the Microsoft corporation. It almost seems as if the company uses a third-party operation for customer service as a firewall between customers and itself...and that no one cares to what degree we, the consumers, experience delays, frustration, and irrational business practices in trying to get our 360 consoles to work. For what it is worth, here is an account of my experiences.... speaking as a loyal but very frustrated XBox customer. An Open Letter to Microsoft concerning Xbox Customer Service I am own all three video game consoles. My preference is consistently the Xbox 360. It has great games; I love the Achievement system and the entire Xbox Live experience. But there are two major shortcomings. One is well known: there has been in the past a quality control problem (red rings, etc) resulting in the return and repair of a great many 360 consoles. I had to return one console purchased in 2006… and now, currently, I am in the position of having to return a refurbished model that was sent to me just a few months ago. In the meantime, I recently purchased one of the Resident Evil special editions of the Elite console, mainly because I was assured that it definitely had the Jasper motherboard, among other improvements, and was much less likely to prove defective. Quality control issues in the manufacture of Xbox 360s inevitably led many 360 owners to contact Customer Service. Unfortunately, the Customer Service operation seems to be just as defective as many of the consoles have been – and what is worse, there is no sign of improvement in that department. A good Customer Service operation is absolutely essential when a company has made the mistake of selling a problem-prone product (for whatever reason). I do not mind, particularly, that I have had to return two Xbox 360 consoles. When the 360 system works, it works very well. I would definitely call myself a loyal customer. But the myriad of problems that I encounter with the Customer Service department is truly aggravating. I hope that someone in Microsoft, responsible for the Customer Service program,will read what follows: (although it is a saga that borders on the unbelievable.) Around the end of April, 2009, while I was playing Fable 2, my refurbished Xbox 360 suddenly stopped functioning. I couldn’t even remove the disc from the DVD drawer. I noticed that the power brick was showing a red light. I called Customer Service and was told that, based on my description, the power cord was likely to be the problem, not the console itself. I was told to send back the power cord and a replacement would be issued. Perhaps I should have done just that. But instead I pointed out to the Customer Service representative that I happened to have a SECOND power cord, or at least the main section of one; I had the large brick and the cable that leads to the console. What I lacked however was the 3-prong cable that runs between an electrical outlet and the brick. An item worth about $3-$5 at most. I had to explain this situation several times. It seemed that the rep had difficulty grasping what I was saying. I pointed out that it would likely be cheaper all around, if, instead of shipping a heavy brick back to Microsoft, the company would simply send me the inexpensive cable that I needed to connect it to an electrical outlet. (There was no reason to believe that this brick was/is defective, so why send it back?) (The power cord on the cable and block that had shown a red light did not fit the second Microsoft power cord – there was a small piece of plastic that prevented one from being interchangeable with the other.) The rep agreed to my proposal: I was assigned a reference number 1101041654 and I was told that within about 10 business days I would receive the 3-prong cable that I needed. Two weeks went by and nothing arrived. I called Customer Service again and retold the story. This time a rep said, we will cancel the original order and start over again. The shipping address was verified as being the one on file. This time I was issued a new reference number 1102096129 and was told to wait for another period of 10 business days for the cable to arrive. Nothing arrived. Another two weeks went by and I called in again. This time the rep I spoke to said the problem was “probably” that I had not sent in any power cord to be replaced. I explained, patiently, that two previous reps had agreed that a cable would be sent to me without my returning the brick (because we had no reason to believe that this particular brick was defective.) I was assigned another reference number 1103151535 and was told that I MUST return the brick and was given an address to ship it to. I paid $17.10 for packaging and shipping (traceable online). The reference number was clearly printed on the outside label. But on the very same day that the package arrived at its destination (in Toronto) Canada Post made this entry: “International item refused by recipient and is being returned to sender” How does a shipment from British Columbia to Ontario become an “international item”? In about two weeks time, the box containing the power-cord brick was returned, just as it was sent, unopened and with no accompanying note or explanation. Needless to say, Xbox Customer Service could not explain such strange behavior. We double-checked the mailing address that I had used for shipping (it was correct). This time the rep said that she would arrange for me to be sent a box and label – and that should rectify the situation. Once again I was given a new reference number 1104818538 and was told to wait for another ten business days. Two more weeks went by (it is now June 19, 2009) and nothing has arrived. In the meantime, a friend who had the same generation of xbox 360 that I had (requiring a 3-prong cord) came by and I was able to connect to the partial power that I had and activate the 360. I was able to release the Fable 3 disc from the DVD drawer (at long last, after six weeks) but now the console itself was displaying 3 red rings. So now, in addition to still needing a power cord replacement I also need to return the 360 console itself. However when I went to the Support page on www.xbox.com, it was not possible to print out a label. (The fact that I am currently residing in Canada does not mean that I deal with a different form of Customer Service. We all go through the same Customer Service through 1-800-4MY-XBOX) When I went to another section under Xbox/Support, to obtain the free “Xbox Data Migration Kit” (in order, eventually, to transfer data from the (defective) 20 Gig Xbox 360 to the new 120 Gig Elite, instead of getting a pdf order form to use, I got an error message. Even now, after 3 days of trying, I still get an error message. So I am stymied there as well. I have no idea how to resolve these problems….It will soon be TWO months that I have been without a functioning Xbox and also without my Gold Membership in Xbox Live. And my problems have not begun to be dealt with,…it’s safe to say that it will take at least another month at least before the console is replaced. Of course I will be phoning Customer Service yet again today… and doubtless I will be given another reference number and be told that something will be shipped (a label, or a box, or a cable)…but at this point I have no faith in the Customer Service process…but also no alternatives. If someone from Xbox management reads this… please help! I am not speaking solely for myself. There are others who also need direct contact with a responsible person in Customer Support; someone who will solve problems efficiently and not give us the runaround. The Xbox console can be fixed; perhaps the Jasper motherboard will greatly improve its reliability. But Customer Support remains broken. This is a public relations disaster. johnH
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   06-19-2009, 10:02 PM
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 towelee wrote:
Just to document the process this time, everything went alot faster which is definately a good thing. Sent my console in 1 week ago today and it has already begun its journey home. Not sure if I am getting the same console back or a refurb tho as the support website is down.

Towelee....Same here.  I sent mine in on Monday June 15.  As of today Friday June 19, it is already on its way home.

Here is something odd.  When you print out your UPS label it says that the package is 1 pound shipping weight.  I just called and got the tracking number for the return home and it says that the shipping weight is 8 pounds.  Can anyone out there tell me why.  8 pounds seems a little heavey for a 360 but 1 pound seems a little light.
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   06-19-2009, 11:52 PM
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6/19/2009 6:21:00 PM LOCATION SCAN MESQUITE TX
6/19/2009 3:11:00 PM UNLOAD SCAN MESQUITE TX

so whats that mean? it doesnt say they recieved yet, so is it still at a ups location, or at the repair place, but they just didnt scan it yet, or whatever

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   06-19-2009, 11:54 PM
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 CrazyMeanStreak wrote:
 towelee wrote:
Just to document the process this time, everything went alot faster which is definately a good thing. Sent my console in 1 week ago today and it has already begun its journey home. Not sure if I am getting the same console back or a refurb tho as the support website is down.

Towelee....Same here.  I sent mine in on Monday June 15.  As of today Friday June 19, it is already on its way home.

Here is something odd.  When you print out your UPS label it says that the package is 1 pound shipping weight.  I just called and got the tracking number for the return home and it says that the shipping weight is 8 pounds.  Can anyone out there tell me why.  8 pounds seems a little heavey for a 360 but 1 pound seems a little light.


didnt notice my sticker, but when i shipped mine out, and tracked it, it said 8 pounds online

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   06-20-2009, 12:05 AM
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 CrazyMeanStreak wrote:
 towelee wrote:
Just to document the process this time, everything went allot faster which is definitely a good thing. Sent my console in 1 week ago today and it has already begun its journey home. Not sure if I am getting the same console back or a refurb tho as the support website is down.

Towelee....Same here.  I sent mine in on Monday June 15.  As of today Friday June 19, it is already on its way home.

Here is something odd.  When you print out your UPS label it says that the package is 1 pound shipping weight.  I just called and got the tracking number for the return home and it says that the shipping weight is 8 pounds.  Can anyone out there tell me why.  8 pounds seems a little heavy for a 360 but 1 pound seems a little light.


You would be surprised how much things weigh so 8 pounds sounds about right. But when it was saying 1 pound no way a 360 is one pound. 8 pounds may sound like allot but it is really not that heavy.

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   06-20-2009, 12:26 AM
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whast location scan

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   06-20-2009, 3:30 PM
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 CrazyMeanStreak wrote:
 towelee wrote:
Just to document the process this time, everything went alot faster which is definately a good thing. Sent my console in 1 week ago today and it has already begun its journey home. Not sure if I am getting the same console back or a refurb tho as the support website is down.

Towelee....Same here.  I sent mine in on Monday June 15.  As of today Friday June 19, it is already on its way home.

Here is something odd.  When you print out your UPS label it says that the package is 1 pound shipping weight.  I just called and got the tracking number for the return home and it says that the shipping weight is 8 pounds.  Can anyone out there tell me why.  8 pounds seems a little heavey for a 360 but 1 pound seems a little light.


Mine said 1lb at first too but that was just for the coffin itself. Once the Xbox was in it was changed to 8lbs.
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   06-20-2009, 7:23 PM
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i noticed my serial number of console has changed. i wonder if they are sending me different one.
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   06-20-2009, 8:37 PM
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i noticed my serial number of console has changed. i wonder if they are sending me different one.


If by another one you mean a refurb console that was someone elses Xbox 360 before it broke and has a good chance of again breaking down in a matter of months then yes.

If you mean new then the answer is hell no MS are to cheap to send new consoles. They can't help it they are greedy pig men who need there snout on as much money as possible. Great now I got myself hungry for bacon.

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   06-21-2009, 3:35 AM
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6/19/2009 6:21:00 PM LOCATION SCAN MESQUITE TX
6/19/2009 3:11:00 PM UNLOAD SCAN MESQUITE TX

so whats that mean? it doesnt say they recieved yet, so is it still at a ups location, or at the repair place, but they just didnt scan it yet, or whatever
It means that the console is in TEXAS, but it  hasn't reach its destination which is Microsoft. When MS gets your console, you will know. I think it will say something like "product recieved" or something like that.
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   06-21-2009, 10:21 AM
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 jzkbn wrote:
i noticed my serial number of console has changed. i wonder if they are sending me different one.


If by another one you mean a refurb console that was someone elses Xbox 360 before it broke and has a good chance of again breaking down in a matter of months then yes.

If you mean new then the answer is hell no MS are to cheap to send new consoles. They can't help it they are greedy pig men who need there snout on as much money as possible. Great now I got myself hungry for bacon.


i do not want different xbox 360 because mine has quiet dvd drive but even though it broke three times in two years i still want it back.
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   06-21-2009, 3:04 PM
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You're at the mercy of the repair center, sorry man.
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   06-21-2009, 9:20 PM
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so im too lazy to look through all these pages to see if someones already answered this. does anyone know if you send in a special edition 360 with the RRoD do they send you a special edition back or just a regular 360?
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