Removing Rudeness from Black Ops 2

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If you could use Dexter's Rude Removal Machine to remove all rudeness from Black Ops 2 players, do you think the game's community (& by extension, the online community as a whole) would be better off or not? Discuss.

As much as I think the COD community is garbage, it makes the game what it is IMO.  But there is a difference between trash talk and flat out rude, which rudeness seems to be the norm and we eventually become desensitized.  The fact that one can hide behind an avatar and act/be like someone they would not in real life makes these situations inevitable.

No. If they removed children and some grown people that act like children from the game it would be better off. I rather have rude people playing than morons acting like idiots screaming/yelling and singing or just playing stupidly on purpose.

awtacular:

No. If they removed children and some grown people that act like children from the game it would be better off. I rather have rude people playing than morons acting like idiots screaming/yelling and singing or just playing stupidly on purpose.

I think those "morons" are the kind of people I would consider rude...

I think the community would be better, but that will never happen.

Queen x HunT3r:

I think the community would be better, but that will never happen.

I know it will never happen, but then again, that's why I say "if you could" in the original post. This is supposed to be a thought-provoking discussion & exercise, so now that I know your answer, how about you explain to us why you think it would be better.

Galactic Geek:

awtacular:

No. If they removed children and some grown people that act like children from the game it would be better off. I rather have rude people playing than morons acting like idiots screaming/yelling and singing or just playing stupidly on purpose.

I think those "morons" are the kind of people I would consider rude...

Everyone has their own opinion on the meaning of things. I myself think a moron in this game would be someone that plays an objective game and doesn't go for the objectives. Another example of a moron would be someone that constantly runs around using some bs class game after game only to go big time negative on the k/d side and didn't even capture or defend an objective. Such classes might include the tactical knives, crossbow and even the shotgun. Those would be a an example of moron. Being rude is something different all together. The only thing I would consider rude in any game is some idiot using racial or sexual remarks or even talking on the phone and playing the game with the mic on. Then again to be truly rude online would be having your mic on and going to the bathroom... That would probably fit under all of the above.

If it would stop all the immature little punks from rage-quitting/dashboarding every five seconds i'd be fine with it.

Do you guys think Dexter's Rude Removal Machine would work for rage-quitters as well? In fact, do some of you, as gamers, consider rage-quitting rude or a necessity?

I think any game that you play online you will meet your fair share of 'idiots' ... Just easy for some to be what they want to be down the end of the mic because basically they know there will be no real come backs, I bet though the majority of these people are totally different in the real world.

 

Even though I don't play COD anymore online I think it's a bit unfair in one sense to hear people say it has the worse community out there, the fact is it is played by more people online than most/if not all other online games out there so unfortunately aswell as the nice people it has alot more of the bad ones, just the way it is.

The mute button is a good rude remover

Well, the COD community is compete poison. With the kiddy's that sing and scream with there mic's on to the crap talkers  and the "pros" who thinks everyone is  beneath them, the game would be better without them to be honest.

I don't understand how people always say " _______ has the worst community", have you even ever played any other games online? There'll always be rude people and "normal" people, and you can't just say that one game or group has more rude people than another, it's unreasonable...

I must be really lucky as I rarely get anyone that I take the time to mute... most don't say anything...

Mister BuzzBee:

Even though I don't play COD anymore online I think it's a bit unfair in one sense to hear people say it has the worse community out there, the fact is it is played by more people online than most/if not all other online games out there so unfortunately aswell as the nice people it has alot more of the bad ones, just the way it is.

I agree with this line of thinking.

bowski477:

The mute button is a GREAT rude remover

Fixed that for you. :P

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The fact of the matter is that the mute button is probably the closest anyone's going to get to Dexter's Rude Removal Machine. Personally, I'm shocked many players would rather respond to a rude person rather than simply mute them. All that does is add oxygen to the fire & make things worse for everyone present. Instead, if you & everyone else presses that oh-so-magical button, the rude player has no audience to feed off of & therefore has no choice but to stop. This is how you best fix & avoid the issue of rudeness in online games. Many players like to act rude or arrogant to get their opponents riled up, mad, etc. which keeps them from thinking clearly during the match because they are no longer calm & collected. If you mute the rude players, that WILL NOT happen & your gaming will be all the better for it.

You can't remove rudeness from human nature. Some people are just born arrogant, hateful, and downright nasty. However...

 

When a game has a nearly uniform skill curve (and low skill ceiling), people trying to be competitive get more frustrated. When so much of a game is based on outside factors, this frustration naturally gets directed outwards. This is why your average console game has communities way worse than your average PC game.

 

If I lose a gunfight in COD, it's almost always out of my control. I may react insanely fast and not miss any of my shots, but still get killed. That's frustrating because there's nothing I could have done. When something doesn't go my way in SC2, it's either because my opponent did a smart move that I didn't anticipate or because I made a mistake. That's still frustrating, but I'm frustrated with myself - not with the game. With the former, you get mad. With the latter, you tip your hat to your opponent and try to get better for next time.

^^No lag comp in SC2?

Haha I don't know. I don't experience any lag while streaming in 720p with ~1.5 Mb/s upload. MW3 was unplayable when I tried that quality.

 

I'm not talking about just lag. It's the structure of the game combined with the usual complaints you see about COD being a "no skill" game.

Honestly a bigger problem in COD these days are players using Xbox LIVE Party chat... makes it quite hard to make friends on the games when you can't hear your teammates.  Of course this has been an issue since November 2008 but MW2 made a good decision to block XBL party chat in all game modes save Ground War.

Railer 505:

Honestly a bigger problem in COD these days are players using Xbox LIVE Party chat... makes it quite hard to make friends on the games when you can't hear your teammates.  Of course this has been an issue since November 2008 but MW2 made a good decision to block XBL party chat in all game modes save Ground War.

There's another explanation here. The people that have no intentions of being a jerk are in party chat, while the jerks are looking for someone to talk to in game chat. This means that if you are talking to someone in game chat, there's a higher chance that they're a jerk.

Jagriff:

Railer 505:

Honestly a bigger problem in COD these days are players using Xbox LIVE Party chat... makes it quite hard to make friends on the games when you can't hear your teammates.  Of course this has been an issue since November 2008 but MW2 made a good decision to block XBL party chat in all game modes save Ground War.

There's another explanation here. The people that have no intentions of being a jerk are in party chat, while the jerks are looking for someone to talk to in game chat. This means that if you are talking to someone in game chat, there's a higher chance that they're a jerk.

Yeah exactly why if I play Black Ops II without friends and no one on my team is talking it gets quiet, and honestly boring.  An hour or so later, if even that, I'm ready to move on and do something else.

I don't hear much of it,Pretty much mute straight away.If i wanna talk i play with friends,There's always someone on.

Galactic Geek:

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If you could use Dexter's Rude Removal Machine to remove all rudeness from Black Ops 2 players, do you think the game's community (& by extension, the online community as a whole) would be better off or not? Discuss.

 

It already exists ! :P .. I simply mute everybody in lobby and if some idiot messages me I block all there messages ( from people I don't know talking like idiots)

Jagriff:

Railer 505:

Honestly a bigger problem in COD these days are players using Xbox LIVE Party chat... makes it quite hard to make friends on the games when you can't hear your teammates.  Of course this has been an issue since November 2008 but MW2 made a good decision to block XBL party chat in all game modes save Ground War.

There's another explanation here. The people that have no intentions of being a jerk are in party chat, while the jerks are looking for someone to talk to in game chat. This means that if you are talking to someone in game chat, there's a higher chance that they're a jerk.

 

Meh I have met a few cool people while playing a few matches in Cod 4 just saying :P

ClosingRacer:

Jagriff:

Railer 505:

Honestly a bigger problem in COD these days are players using Xbox LIVE Party chat... makes it quite hard to make friends on the games when you can't hear your teammates.  Of course this has been an issue since November 2008 but MW2 made a good decision to block XBL party chat in all game modes save Ground War.

There's another explanation here. The people that have no intentions of being a jerk are in party chat, while the jerks are looking for someone to talk to in game chat. This means that if you are talking to someone in game chat, there's a higher chance that they're a jerk.

Meh I have met a few cool people while playing a few matches in Cod 4 just saying :P

Higher chance != 100% chance. Plus party chat wasn't around in the COD4 era, so I don't quite understand.

We'd all be Happy Gilmore about dying and such, that's for sure.

ClosingRacer:

It already exists ! :P .. I simply mute everybody in lobby and if some idiot messages me I block all there messages ( from people I don't know talking like idiots)

Although I appreciate your post, you've come into the party late, buddy. Please be sure to read all the posts 1st before responding. We've already discussed this, as shown below:

bowski477:

The mute button is a good rude remover.

Galactic Geek:

The fact of the matter is that the mute button is probably the closest anyone's going to get to Dexter's Rude Removal Machine. Personally, I'm shocked many players would rather respond to a rude person rather than simply mute them. All that does is add oxygen to the fire & make things worse for everyone present. Instead, if you & everyone else presses that oh-so-magical button, the rude player has no audience to feed off of & therefore has no choice but to stop. This is how you best fix & avoid the issue of rudeness in online games. Many players like to act rude or arrogant to get their opponents riled up, mad, etc. which keeps them from thinking clearly during the match because they are no longer calm & collected. If you mute the rude players, that WILL NOT happen & your gaming will be all the better for it.

accidental team kills happen in hardcore, so i like the fact they wait a few before kicking someone...however, i think anytime a team kill occurs and a care package is involved, it should result in INSTANT boot...talk about rude, team killing for a care package is about as bad as it gets...ESPECIALLY when you suck as bad as I do and getting a care package is like a special moment   lol

When it comes to team killing, I think the power should be put into the player who was killed. Should I boot the offender or forgive them? The only downside I see to this are douchebags who intentionally try to annoy you so you want to kill them, but then again - there's not much we can do about those kind of players anyways...