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Rifton House not really worth it

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    Level: 3
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  • Frankly, I am dismayed that this house is more expensive and not better at all than the one in Whiterun.  Had I investigated the house after purchasing it (before doing a bunch of thieves quests) I would have reloaded and not sunk the gold into it at all.

    Why does it suck?

    Absolutely no practical storage in the basement.  The Whiterun house has a satchel right on the alchemy station for ingredient storage.  It has a chest right behind you for finished pot storage.  It has a book case right there for storage of the recipes.

    The Rifton house has NO storage anywhere near the alchemy station.  It has no storage near the enchanting station for your soul gems and items to be enchanted.

    Its well away from shops and vendors where you would normally be selling things.  Rifton has only one blacksmith (unlike Whiterun that has 3).

    The only thing it has going for it is that the thieves guild HQ is there in Rifton and that the house has an external (out of town) entrance you can ride your horse right to without tipping guards off if you have a Rifton bounty.

    It does have working weapon racks and wall racks unlike my Whiterun house.  My Whiterun house's racks are not clickable, apparently glitched as my granddaughter's Witerun house works just fine.

    I do hope the other city houses are better than Rifton's but I damn sure will be making a save before purchasing them and then investigate them thoroughly after adding the upgrades to see if they are really worth keeping.

    "Understanding women isn't about knowing what button to push, its knowing when not to push them"-Me

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  • But the Rifton house has an enchantment table and I NEED an enchantment table really bad.  That is a bummer about the lack of storage in the alchemy room.     Hmm nowhere to store the enchantment items either.  Ok well this isnt sounding as good as I thought.   I will make sure to save before I buy the house. But thanks for the heads up about the lack of storage items.  Greatly appreciated.   

     

    Is there a house that everyone seems to recommend with storage AND an enchantment table?  

  • Level: 2
  • Um, the alchemy lab has three bookshelfs, all which allow you to "store" ingredients.  There is one (maybe two-can't remember) chest upstairs and multiple weapon racks, not to mention, manaquinns that can store weapon and armor as well.  If you are really worried about walking twenty (game) feet to the market circle to sell and smith items, maybe this isn't the game for you?

  • Level: 8
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  • On a side note I had no idea Whiterun has 3 blacksmiths.  Wish I would have known that a long time ago.

  • Level: 3
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  • Whiterun has 3 smiths.  There is the two right next to your house (husband/wife).  When she's outside, she has a separate pool of money/items from the one inside the shop.  There is the skyforge up near Dragonreach and the Companion hall.

    "Bookshelves"?  Rofl.  You really think I am going to drop each ingredient and then pick it up and putz with it to get it on a shelf?  Seriously?  I want a container to put it ALL in, that I can hit (X) to loot all and then stand there making pots.  I am not going to spend hours to carefully set each item/stack on shelves.  Just not going to do it.

    Yes, there are places upstairs.  I don't want to sloth up and down the stairs overburdened all the time, do you?  I also don't want to sloth across town either and since Rifton has few straight lines, using whirlwind is hard as well.  When you enter the Rifton gate you can get to the vendor circle with a couple sprints but Whiterun has the BS within sight of you and is right next to your house, far more convenient.

    I don't believe the manikins can store weapons, though I have not tried, I thought I saw something in the popup about only allowing armor as the bookshelf in Whiterun only allows Books and weapon racks only allow weapons, etc.

    "Understanding women isn't about knowing what button to push, its knowing when not to push them"-Me

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  • I am with you on the container situation. I have THOUSANDS of items right now. Probably around 2,000-3,000 loot items all in my Whiterun house in different storage chests and crates.   So its a must that I have something to store them in if I go to another house.  Glad I read this before making the riften purchase.  As I said above I will save right before I buy the house,  check it out, then make my decision.

    In my Whiterun house.

    Weapons are in one chest.

    Armor is in another chest or dresser. 

    Misc items are in drawer.

    Soul jems are in another drawer.

    Food is in the cabinet by the cooking pot.

    Ingredients are in the locker behind the alchemy table.  (I never thought of storing them in that alchemy pouch)

  • Level: 4
  • LMAFO!

     

    The bookshelfs act just like chest, drawers and other containers... Look at the bookshelf and it will say "activate bookshelf". You can then place items in it from the menu just like using a chest.

    It even stacks things on the shelf neatly for you.

     

    Learn about something BEFORE you critisize it.

  • Level: 3
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  • I tried in Whiterun, the bookshelf would ONLY accept things from the BOOKS category and nothing else.

    "Understanding women isn't about knowing what button to push, its knowing when not to push them"-Me

  • Level: 7
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  • you can use A hold to decorate your house but i not recommend using dagger shelf to place neclaces , i lost some of them doing that in my safehouses. I hate that some time i find everything in my house is a mess after pass time decorating it. My fav house is the one in Solitude, i liked the one in the reach but to sell/smithing  things is not good.

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  • Level: 2
  • It should be able to take ingredients as well.  I wonder if this has to do with why you can't activate the plaques?  It also will organize the items for you, not drop them and make you put them on the shelfs.

  • Level: 3
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  • The Rifton shelves never showed any "Activate Bookshelf" hover like the one in Whiterun.  But I am sure the one in whiterun wouldn't take anything but books.  I tried and I am sure I tried weapons, armor, ingredients and soul gems and it would take none but the books/recipes.  Do any other shelves activate for you in Whiterun?  The only one of mine that does is the one in the alchemy room.

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    It could be tied to the glitched weapon racks/plaques, wouldn't know.  I will head to Rifton to triple check but I am really sure I was all over the shelves (I stripped them bare of ingredients) and never saw the (A) to activate message.  The weapon racks, plaques and manikins all worked in Rifton though.

    "Understanding women isn't about knowing what button to push, its knowing when not to push them"-Me

  • Level: 3
  • Get another house. Riften sucks anyway..

    Ctrl

  • Level: 5
  • use the slow time shout, as soon as you pay for the house back out of convo and use slow time, quickly stash all money into a container of some kind, and you get a house for free, glitch or secret use for slow time shout, you decide. free houses all around. you need the amount the house costs, although you lose nothing.


  • Level: 5
  • No house in Skyrim is worth a damn.  I prefer my Arch-Mage's Quarters at the College of Winterhold.

  • Level: 5
  • ^ Yeah the houses are a flat out waste of money. If you care about saving money in this game then don't bother with them lol. Or you could use the trick that k0rruptiD just mentioned, which I think I might do from now on. I'd barely even consider that cheating, it's more like avoiding being cheated. I blew like 40,000 gold on the house in Solitude, and I've only ever been in it once. I don't plan on entering it again either lol.

    Shut It Ya Bass!
  • Level: 5
  • yeah i dont really enjoy selling tons of loot and waiting for them to restock money, and a house is just to store stuff and decorate maybe, i like them for the alchemy/enchanting lab, so i can leave all ingredients near the lab, and all soul gems near the enchant table, makes it a bit more convenient. although both tables are everywhere.


  • Level: 4
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  • Does any other house have an Arcane Enchanter in it? That's all I really want.

  • Level: 5
  • k0rruptiD:

    yeah i dont really enjoy selling tons of loot and waiting for them to restock money, and a house is just to store stuff and decorate maybe, i like them for the alchemy/enchanting lab, so i can leave all ingredients near the lab, and all soul gems near the enchant table, makes it a bit more convenient. although both tables are everywhere.

    The amount of money traders have in this game is ridiculous. I have level 100 Speech with all of the trading perks, and there are still often times where I need to fast travel around a bit in order to offload all of my crap. This system worked well enough in Fallout 3 and New Vegas, because you never came across chests packed to the brim with expensive stuff in those games lol. It just doesn't work here. Oblivion's system was far better. It was totally unrealistic, and arguably immersion breaking, but it did mean that we could offload our loot with minimal hassle.

    Shut It Ya Bass!
  • Level: 5
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  • The Solitude house has an enchanter.

    Previously Jameser78, now TF themed.

  • Level: 3
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  • Fly Guy8791:

    LMAFO!

     

    The bookshelfs act just like chest, drawers and other containers... Look at the bookshelf and it will say "activate bookshelf". You can then place items in it from the menu just like using a chest.

    It even stacks things on the shelf neatly for you.

     

    Learn about something BEFORE you critisize it.

    Alright smarty, I just checked.  The bookshelves in both Honeyside and in Breezehome will ONLY accept BOOKS.  I tried an item from EVERY category in the ONE bookshelf in Breezehome.  I then headed to Riften and tried the same in the ONE bookcase in the basement that would bring up the (A) Activate Bookshelf.  Neither would accept anything except items in the BOOKS category.

    The only bookcase in Riften that has the (A) is the boring brown one.  The mottled ones with the decorative backs just sit there as static decorations and can't be activated.

    "Understanding women isn't about knowing what button to push, its knowing when not to push them"-Me

  • Level: 2
  • I would like to be able to move light around, like a lite lantern to the dark sides of my house.

    When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die.

  • Level: 5
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  • His criticism comment was at how someone said you have to drop the item, then manually pick it up by hand, like in Oblivion.

    Previously Jameser78, now TF themed.

  • Level: 3
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  • You do.  The bookshelves will not open as containers.  Not in my game anyway.  The only ones that do open as containers will only accept books and nothing else.

    "Understanding women isn't about knowing what button to push, its knowing when not to push them"-Me

  • Level: 7
  • ^

    You're right, the guy who originally posted the advice, even with the "learn about it first" comment was wrong, hilariously enough. You can put books in it, sure, but books aren't ingredients and the bookshelf most definitely doesn't act as a chest does.

    If I could have my wasted days back, would I use them to get back on track...?

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    Keep searching... keep on searching.

  • Level: 5
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  • Breezehome is by far the most convenient house to buy, cheap, close to everything you need and has lost of storage. So apart from satisfying your own ego there really isn't any need to buy any other place. Breezehome + college dorm room. Done.

  • Level: 3
  • The Breezehome is not the closest to everything you need. Honeyside does though. Enchanter/Alchemy in house. Forge outside a few feet away.

    Ctrl

  • Level: 5
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  • Has anyone else noticed that buying the riften house is bugged?

    The house is supposed to be 8000 but I got it for 5300. The dialogue was bugged an he let me buy the house even though I didn't have enough gold

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  • Level: 8
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  • WolfiesDen360:

    Fly Guy8791:

    LMAFO!

     

    The bookshelfs act just like chest, drawers and other containers... Look at the bookshelf and it will say "activate bookshelf". You can then place items in it from the menu just like using a chest.

    It even stacks things on the shelf neatly for you.

     

    Learn about something BEFORE you critisize it.

    Alright smarty, I just checked.  The bookshelves in both Honeyside and in Breezehome will ONLY accept BOOKS.  I tried an item from EVERY category in the ONE bookshelf in Breezehome.  I then headed to Riften and tried the same in the ONE bookcase in the basement that would bring up the (A) Activate Bookshelf.  Neither would accept anything except items in the BOOKS category.

    The only bookcase in Riften that has the (A) is the boring brown one.  The mottled ones with the decorative backs just sit there as static decorations and can't be activated.

    You are correct. I am also only able to store books in the book case.     I purchased the Riften house last night because I really really wanted an enchantment table in my house.  Saves me a LOT of time running to the college to enchant.   I actually like the Riften house.  To store your items there is a room in the basement to the right of the alchemy lab that has 3 storage items.   Plus you can store as much armor as you want on the dummies next to the Enchantment table. So while I was a little nervous about storage in Riften after reading thsi thread,   there is plenty of storage.   However I cant hang my weapons up like others are able to.  I am sure its a glitch but not a big deal. So I just put my weapons in the chest in that bedroom.  

     

    So for storage this is what I did last night in Riften.

     

    Armor stored in dummies to the right of the enchantment table

     

    Ingredients in chest in bedroom next to alchemy table.

     

    Soul gems on left side of the bed in lower basement to the right of alchemy lab

     

    Weapons in lower room right of alchemy lab in left cabinet. 

     

    Food stored upsairs next to the cooking pot. 

     

    Misc items stored upstairs in cabinet by bed.

     

    So basically I have a place for everything in Riften.   Well worth the purchase.  :)

  • Level: 3
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  • As I posted in the other thread and it kinda belongs here too...

    Apparently my Riften house is glitched as well as my Whiterun house.  My armor plaques and rack don't work in my Whiterun home.  And now from your description, I am missing a bedroom in my Riften home.

    In my basement, I have the one large room with manikins and weapon racks with the enchanting table.

    I have a smaller open room with the bookshelves and alchemy station.

    I have an empty end room behind the door.  (Apparently this is your bedroom?)

    So, I guess if it wasn't glitched it might be worth it as you apparently have storage at least on the same floor as your stations.  I don't.

    I also noticed that one of my 2 manikins seems to move.  One time it was on its base.  The next time I went in (because I forgot ingredients to try in the bookcase) it was off its base and in the corner.  The 3rd time I entered it was back on its base.

    And you don't have to go to the college to enchant.  There is a table in Dragonreach (castle in Whiterun).  You can maptravel right to it and is closer than the college's stations all be it not your private station :)

    "Understanding women isn't about knowing what button to push, its knowing when not to push them"-Me

  • Level: 8
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  • THis is what I posted in that other thread. Your house is not glitched.Well the plaques yes, mine are too but not the rest of your house.  

    WolfiesDen360:

    You have a bedroom in the basement?  What the hey?  I bought all the addons.  I just have the one big room with the enchantment table, a smaller open room with the alchemy equipment and an empty room at the end.  Jesus, is every house I buy going to be glitched?

    Now I see why you were upset with this house. You dont have all the items unlocked yet.

      

    You have to complete some other missions to become the "Thane of Riften" to get that bedroom to the right of the Alchemy table.  My friend had the same issue and had to complete some other missions.  He also didnt have the girl inside the house either.   Once you become the Thane you will have a female soldier in the house waiting for you and the bedroom to the right of the alchemy lab will be there.  

  • Level: 5
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  • Isn't the bedroom by the alchemy table for your housecarl?

    My game seems to glitched. Can't even become thane. The jarl wont talk to be about it even though I have a misc quest active to talk to the jarl to become thane.

    So can't get a housecarl because I can't become Thane. Means that bedroom will never unlock.

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  • Level: 5
  • Pakalolo Time:

    No house in Skyrim is worth a damn.  I prefer my Arch-Mage's Quarters at the College of Winterhold.

    I prefer my Mage tower DLC from oblivion

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  • Level: 4
  • Apparently, the PC version is slightly different on storage.  The Xbox version is a little buggy.

  • Level: 5
  • I can't even start the skooma bust quest, let alone buy the Riften house. I've done numerous favors for the people of Riften and it's still not even a conversation option with the Jarl. Is there something I'm missing?

    " 'Oh this old warship has wounds and, it won't sail for nothin' ' an old sailor said to me..."

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  • BlackBoxRapture:

    I can't even start the skooma bust quest, let alone buy the Riften house. I've done numerous favors for the people of Riften and it's still not even a conversation option with the Jarl. Is there something I'm missing?

    Yes go down by the boat docks in Riften and find the warehouse. Its on the west (left) side of Riften.  There will be a lizzard lady talking about her addiction to Skooma.  After you talk to her, go back and talk to the Jarl.   I just did this last night after making my thread about not being able to find the Riften house.

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  • CAMAROBOY69:

    BlackBoxRapture:

    I can't even start the skooma bust quest, let alone buy the Riften house. I've done numerous favors for the people of Riften and it's still not even a conversation option with the Jarl. Is there something I'm missing?

    Yes go down by the boat docks in Riften and find the warehouse. Its on the west (left) side of Riften.  There will be a lizzard lady talking about her addiction to Skooma.  After you talk to her, go back and talk to the Jarl.   I just did this last night after making my thread about not being able to find the Riften house.

    OK thanks, I'll have to check that out. 

    " 'Oh this old warship has wounds and, it won't sail for nothin' ' an old sailor said to me..."

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