hi mister gwyther, right.........since the february update that was downloaded through xbox live, if your console is offline, and not connected yo live, trying to sign into a non-xbox live local offline profile brings up a 'cannot connect to live, troubleshoot or exit' error screen, if you exit, the profile still logs in, but it makes playing some kinect games offline impossible. When loading up a kinect game, for instance disney or kinectimals and it asks you to sign in or start a new same, attempting to sign in with an existing saved progress profile cannot be done as when you select your profile, it says 'cannot connect to live, troubleshoot or start new game'.........it goes into a sign in loop if you continue to try to sign in with an existing profile, but there are no issues AT ALL with kinect and profie signing in on the dashboard if you are permanantly connected to live, this is only an issue when attempting to play offline, this problem never existed before the two feb updates so one of them has caused this problem. microsoft seem to be denying any knowledge of this problem, it is not just me, as you can see, many other users have it too, but you would only notice the problem if you were offline. obviously this is only affecting users who have xbox live, but dont always go online with it. if you cannot sign into kinect games unless online at all times, i'd say thats a pretty big problem for MS to admit to and sort out. my brother like me has a new xbox slim (my white one died of RROD), and both since accepting the update (you cannot not update, unless you wont get on live), the profile sign in problem has been a problem. I have had this escalated by MS support 3 times but still awaiting a reply or a official announcement about it. so basically, if you buy a new xbox, get it online, get you update, you are then bound to be online at all times to play kinect games, not good if you are not always able to get online, or your updates are dloaded from a friends house.........please look into it, theres a good chance you have the same issues, but are not aware of it unless online. thanks